Re: [Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit

2015-06-11 Thread Mike Fanning
Don, your question is valid but I’m afraid I don’t have a good answer.  I 
honestly don’t know if this is a recent occurrence or if it has always been 
there because I have practically no run time on the KPA100 since I built it.  I 
have put the KDSP2 in bypass and that does fix the problem, as long as I am not 
running full QSK.  In other words, if I add 10ms or more worth of t-r delay, I 
don’t hear the popping with the KDSP2 bypassed.  The receiver will pop if t-r 
delay is set to zero, but that’s probably par for the course.  I have not done 
any sniffing around on the diodes, but that will be next on my to do list after 
Field Day.  Thank you again for your help, and please let me know if you have 
any other suggestions or insight.

73,
Mike, K4GU


On Jun 10, 2015, at 6:36 AM, Don Wilhelm d...@w3fpr.com wrote:

 Mike,
 
 With the blue toroids, you do have the updated KPA100.  Can I assume that 
 this problem is a recent occurrence rather than a problem that has always 
 been there?
 
 Yes, removing and jumpering out the KDSP2 will likely stop it (or just try 
 putting it in bypass), but that is not the source of the real problem, it is 
 just the source of the 'pop'.
 I would suggest digging into the KPA100 a bit.  Lay the KPA100 on its 'back' 
 on a book or box to the right of the K2, remove the shield and make the diode 
 voltage measurements.  Hopefully that will reveal an anomaly.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 On 6/10/2015 12:45 AM, Mike Fanning wrote:
 Thanks for the quick reply Don!  I checked the 8R setting and it was indeed 
 set to hold (and is set there again after toggling it to make sure).  I do 
 have the KDSP2 option with the KPA100, but after peeling off the right side 
 panel I see two baby blue toroids.  The K2 is serial number is 5882 and it 
 was purchased in December 2006.  The KPA100 was bought at Dayton in 2009.  I 
 think it took me another year to get around to building it, so it was 
 probably buttoned up about 5 years ago and has been the backup/receive only 
 rig since doing all the alignment checks.  This will be the first time I 
 have really done any transmitting with it since adding the KPA100 (I’ll make 
 sure to revisit the PA screws as instructed).  You have given me something 
 else to check though - I need to pull the KDSP2 and see if that affects the 
 problem.  I’m wondering if there were other upgrades to either the K2 or 
 KDSP2 that might affect this as well?
 
 
 
 
 

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[Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit

2015-06-09 Thread Mike Fanning
Hi all,
I have a K2 that I built some time ago that I added the KPA100 to at a later 
time.  I don’t have more than 10 minutes worth of run time on the KPA100 and 
I’m putting a dress rehearsal together for Field Day in a couple of weeks.  I 
noticed tonight that when I am running more than about 10 Watts (enough to kick 
the KPA100 on) that I get a nasty pop on the receiver whenever I come from 
transmit to receive mode.  Changing the tx-rx delay doesn’t affect the noise, 
and whenever I back the power down so that the KPA100 is not engaged, the 
problem goes away.  Any suggestions as to what might be going on?  It will be 
really tiring to listen to the receiver in this mode for 24 hours at FD…

Thanks for any light anyone can shed.

73,
Mike, K4GU
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 noise on receiver when switching from transmit

2015-06-09 Thread Mike Fanning
Thanks for the quick reply Don!  I checked the 8R setting and it was indeed set 
to hold (and is set there again after toggling it to make sure).  I do have the 
KDSP2 option with the KPA100, but after peeling off the right side panel I see 
two baby blue toroids.  The K2 is serial number is 5882 and it was purchased in 
December 2006.  The KPA100 was bought at Dayton in 2009.  I think it took me 
another year to get around to building it, so it was probably buttoned up about 
5 years ago and has been the backup/receive only rig since doing all the 
alignment checks.  This will be the first time I have really done any 
transmitting with it since adding the KPA100 (I’ll make sure to revisit the PA 
screws as instructed).  You have given me something else to check though - I 
need to pull the KDSP2 and see if that affects the problem.  I’m wondering if 
there were other upgrades to either the K2 or KDSP2 that might affect this as 
well?

Anyway, thanks for the lead and please let me know if you have any other ideas.

73,
Mike, K4GU


On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:52 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Mike,
 
 I am curious to hear just how long ago that some time ago really is.
 
 The first thing to check is the setting of 8R - it should be set to HOLD with 
 the KPA100 installed.  To check, go in the menu to T-R, edit the parameter 
 and then tap DISPLAY.  If 8R was already set to HOLD, you will see 'nor' and 
 you will have to tap DISPLAY again to set it back to HOLD.  OTOH, if you see 
 HOLD when you tap DISPLAY the first time, it had been set to 'nor' - when you 
 see HOLD, tap the menu button twice to exit.
 
 There was a time when such pops could occur on some K2s that were equipped 
 with both the KDSP2 and the KPA100.
 The real source was never discovered other than it was caused by some 
 transition in the KPA100 T/R switch and related to the unmute timing in the 
 KDSP2.
 
 That has not occurred in K2s that have the upgraded KPA100.  So check your 
 KPA100 - remove the right side panel and look between the shield and the 
 board.
 If you see two toroids with blue cores, it has been upgraded, but if you see 
 toroids with red cores, order the KPA100UPKT and do the upgrade.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 6/9/2015 11:13 PM, Mike Fanning wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a K2 that I built some time ago that I added the KPA100 to at a later 
 time.  I don’t have more than 10 minutes worth of run time on the KPA100 and 
 I’m putting a dress rehearsal together for Field Day in a couple of weeks.  
 I noticed tonight that when I am running more than about 10 Watts (enough to 
 kick the KPA100 on) that I get a nasty pop on the receiver whenever I come 
 from transmit to receive mode.  Changing the tx-rx delay doesn’t affect the 
 noise, and whenever I back the power down so that the KPA100 is not engaged, 
 the problem goes away.  Any suggestions as to what might be going on?  It 
 will be really tiring to listen to the receiver in this mode for 24 hours at 
 FD…
 
 
 
 

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