[Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread stan levandowski
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of 
days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 at 
between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His antenna 
was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 400 contacts 
in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day.  In a 
couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and 
antenna.  



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would probably 
dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.  



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation, 
perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the 
handicap of a "compromise" antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread David Gilbert


So does having a semi-rare callsign.

Dave   AB7E



On 2/6/2014 6:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple 
of days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 
at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His 
antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 
400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours 
each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the 
same rig and antenna.



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would 
probably dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, 
preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to 
offset the handicap of a "compromise" antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread stan levandowski
When I bought mine a few months ago, it was $99 for the antenna and one 
matchbox; each additional matchbox was $20.    73, Stan WB2LQF



On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 08:40 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:


Does anyone know what this antenna costs?
On the website, it says "E-mail for pricing."

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 5:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple 
of days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 
at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His 
antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 
400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours 
each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the 
same rig and antenna.



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a 
matching network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams 
would probably dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" 
antenna.



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, 
preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to 
offset the handicap of a "compromise" antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread KD8RQE
That would be Ulrich, N2DE, KX3, Begali Adventure, & his baby, the  Begali 
CW Machine.  A combo very hard to beat.
 
73 Mike KD8RQE
 
 
In a message dated 2/6/2014 8:05:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sjl...@optonline.net writes:

FYI - if  any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of 
days, you  might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 at 
between 5  and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His antenna 
was a  PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 400 contacts 
in  two days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day.  In a  
couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and  
antenna.  


The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum  rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would probably 
dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or  "compromise" antenna.  


A well versed operator, knowledge of  propagation, patience, preparation, 
perseverance and top shelf equipment  goes a long way to offset the 
handicap of a "compromise"  antenna.


73, Stan  WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread Jack Chomley

I would not say the Omniangle is a compromise antenna if it works :-) The 
operator had nothing else to compare it with and was able to make many contacts 
with it!
We would all like a big Yagi I guess, but they weigh more than a few pounds.
The thrill really, is doing more..with less!
Incidentally, I am about to find out just how good an Omniangle on 20 metres 
is, Dale shipped mine out, earlier this week.


73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club.www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL 
GQRP   #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP.#833

> On 7 Feb 2014, at 11:05 am, stan levandowski  wrote:
> 
> FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of days, 
> you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 at between 5 and 
> 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His antenna was a PAR Omni Angle 
> on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 400 contacts in two days of operating 
> and he was only on a few hours each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be 
> operating as 7P8US with the same rig and antenna.  
> 
> 
> The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
> network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would probably dub 
> the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.  
> 
> 
> A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation, 
> perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the handicap 
> of a "compromise" antenna.
> 
> 
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-06 Thread Jim Lowman

Does anyone know what this antenna costs?
On the website, it says "E-mail for pricing."

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/6/2014 5:05 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple 
of days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 
at between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His 
antenna was a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 
400 contacts in two days of operating and he was only on a few hours 
each day.  In a couple of weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the 
same rig and antenna.



The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would 
probably dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.



A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, 
preparation, perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to 
offset the handicap of a "compromise" antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs,
 Of course the other side of the story is that a good many of the
distant stations being worked by the QRP station have large Yagis up high.
Those Yagis are doing the job for both parties. 

  I found it relatively easy to work the States with an inside AlexLoop
tickled by 10 watts at the tail end of an ARRL DX Contest.   The fellows I
was working were running out of responders and they had the antennas to hear
my pip squeak.   It was fun though.

  So hail to big antennas whenever they can be had and amazement when
QRP with a small antenna inside gets through.Some of us go on QRP just
because QRO can make us jaded but when I want to work on my CW rag chewing
400 Watts to a Yagi smoothes the process.

 73 Doug EI2CN
KX1, KX3, K3   

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jack Chomley
Sent: 07 February 2014 01:23
To: stan levandowski
Cc: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion


I would not say the Omniangle is a compromise antenna if it works :-) The
operator had nothing else to compare it with and was able to make many
contacts with it!
We would all like a big Yagi I guess, but they weigh more than a few pounds.
The thrill really, is doing more..with less!
Incidentally, I am about to find out just how good an Omniangle on 20 metres
is, Dale shipped mine out, earlier this week.


73,

Jack VK4JRC

Club.www.cqara.org.au
Member WIA SARL ARRL 
GQRP   #14392
QRPARCI #15068
VKQRP.#833

> On 7 Feb 2014, at 11:05 am, stan levandowski  wrote:
> 
> FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of
days, you might be interested to  learn that he was running a KX3 at between
5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level.  His antenna was a PAR
Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole.  He made 400 contacts in two days
of operating and he was only on a few hours each day.  In a couple of weeks
he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and antenna.  
> 
> 
> The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds.  Most hams would probably dub
the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.  
> 
> 
> A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation,
perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the handicap
of a "compromise" antenna.
> 
> 
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-07 Thread Dave
Not always, some people like working QRP 2 way, especially where both ends 
are using "simple" antennas, so to say it is a good many of the contacts 
being between QRO with large antennas to QRP with small, would not be 
telling the whole story...


Dave (G0DJA)

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Turnbull" 
To: "'Jack Chomley'" ; "'stan levandowski'" 


Cc: "'Elecraft List'" 
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion



Dear OMs,
Of course the other side of the story is that a good many of the
distant stations being worked by the QRP station have large Yagis up high.
Those Yagis are doing the job for both parties.


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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion

2014-02-07 Thread Tony Castellano
One thing I would like to add is the fact that Stan and I both worked 3DA0US 
with our KX3's running QRP power.


Tony Castellano W1ZMB
tcaste...@optonline.net
Hopewell Junction, NY
RV-6
N401TC

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- Original Message - From: "stan levandowski" 
To: "Elecraft" 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:05 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] (OT) -- Regarding the QRP Discussion


FYI - if any Listers here happened to work 3DA0US in the last couple of 
days, you might be interested to learn that he was running a KX3 at 
between 5 and 10 watts depending upon his DC input level. His antenna was 
a PAR Omni Angle on a 22 foot fiberglass pole. He made 400 contacts in two 
days of operating and he was only on a few hours each day. In a couple of 
weeks he'll be operating as 7P8US with the same rig and antenna.


The PAR Omni Angle is only a 7 foot aluminum rectangle with a matching 
network and it only weighs a couple of pounds. Most hams would probably 
dub the Par Omni Angle a "suboptimal" or "compromise" antenna.


A well versed operator, knowledge of propagation, patience, preparation, 
perseverance and top shelf equipment goes a long way to offset the 
handicap of a "compromise" antenna.



73, Stan WB2LQF







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