Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
The ARRL publication NCJ has a review, from September / October 2007: http://www.ncjweb.com/sepoct07feat.pdf -Matt W0XEU >>> "Larry Phipps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/17/2008 12:35 PM >>> I think at least one tech staffer ordered a K3 and probably has it. I think they have also had their hands briefly on a beta unit. I expect a "Quick Looks" report soon, followed by a full report in the Fall. 73, Larry N8LP > I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go > way > out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue. :-) > > Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the contesting > and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get one. This is > not > just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured that out at a very > early date. > > Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
I think at least one tech staffer ordered a K3 and probably has it. I think they have also had their hands briefly on a beta unit. I expect a "Quick Looks" report soon, followed by a full report in the Fall. 73, Larry N8LP I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go way out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue. :-) Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the contesting and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get one. This is not just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured that out at a very early date. Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
I think the K2 that was reviewed in QST was around serial number 495. The K2 hype was no-way near as noticeable as he the K3 hype. My thought is that the ARRL has one now or getting one this month. The packaging of the test K2 and my K2 got mixed up and there was some sorting out to do. The manufacturer did know which K2 was going to be the test radio for the QST review. I waited until I had gotten my hands on a K2 before I ordered, which must have been a little more than a year after orders were taken at Dayton. Things were not happening nearly as rapidly with the K2 as they are with the K3. QST and the ARRL web publishing seems to repeat a good bit of information seen on the QRP-L and Elecraft reflectors. My guess is they have it in the queue. Because the K3 hype was on the reflector very early on. Now does that change any of the action in the pool? Terry, KQ5U - Original Message - From: "Bill W5WVO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a pool? My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008. I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go way out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue. :-) Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the contesting and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get one. This is not just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured that out at a very early date. Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
I have heard second hand that the evaluation has been done already and there has been some talks about it at ham fests. This information may not be accurate as I didn't hear the talk myself and the source could be confusing an evaluation of the K2. If so, the source was raving about how wonderful the K3 will be and has congratulated me on ordering one. I am far more interested in the K5EWJ evaluation than the ARRL evaluation even is the K5EWJ evaluation is less scientific. I just hope that the Order Date/Delivery Date is not a linear function! If it is, I have at least 6 months to wait. Meanwhile, read this if you have not already: http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/ This write up by G4AON is super good. It may not have as much test information as the ARRL reviews, but I think it is super good and after reading it, I placed my order on Dec 27. Cookie, K5EWJ --- Bill W5WVO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How about a pool? > > My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for > December, 2008. > > I'm betting they already have one or will have it > shortly. I'm going to go way > out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue. > :-) > > Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 > intro from the contesting > and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on > end to get one. This is not > just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL > figured that out at a very > early date. > > Bill W5WVO > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
mvolstad wrote: > > Has Rob actually commited to publishing a detailed technical evaluation of > the K3? If so, I believe that will be a first. I have searched his web > site and cannot find detailed evaluations of *any* current HF rigs. His > tables of receiver performance numbers are very convenient, but the > numbers themselves do not seem to differ greatly from those found in the > QST reviews. He also has a number of very interesting and illuminating > white papers, but these are general technical discussions rather than > detailed evaluations of specific radios. > Rob will be testing a K3 on loan from one of the Colorado locals. He does not publish full test reports on his website but they often show up on specific rig forums. I believe his latest on the SDR-5000 was published by an SWL publication (Passport Radio?) but available to subscribers only. Rob was on the IC-7800 list since he bought a unit (subsequently sold) and I would not be surprised to see him show up here. In these forums he often shares qualitative observations that are not in his published data (e.g. the RX AGC impulse noise problems the IC-7800 and 7000 have). So to answer your question, he does publish info but you have to look for it. I suspect you may see something published here eventually. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-K3--QST-Labs-review-Pool--tp14919967p14921293.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about a pool? My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008. I'm betting they already have one or will have it shortly. I'm going to go way out on a limb here. Put me down for July 2008 issue. :-) Reasoning: There was way too much buzz after the K3 intro from the contesting and DXpeditioning crowd for ARRL to wait months on end to get one. This is not just another radio, and I'm sure the guys at ARRL figured that out at a very early date. Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought there was also a good bit of controversy some time back as to whether or not Sherwood's measurements were correct. It might have been via the Orion reflector or the IC7800 reflector, but not sure. Anyway, as I understand it, Sherwood had to go back and do a re-analysis on several radios. Also, I seem to recall he had not really correctly evaluated the K2 when it first came out. But maybe I dreamed all of this. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:19 AM Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool? Has Rob actually commited to publishing a detailed technical evaluation of the K3? If so, I believe that will be a first. I have searched his web site and cannot find detailed evaluations of *any* current HF rigs. His tables of receiver performance numbers are very convenient, but the numbers themselves do not seem to differ greatly from those found in the QST reviews. He also has a number of very interesting and illuminating white papers, but these are general technical discussions rather than detailed evaluations of specific radios. Mark AI4BJ Rob Sherwood will publish a detailed technical evaluation long before ARRL (sans fluff). Rob also is not afraid of offending advertisers by identifying genuine problems. ARRL's Expanded Test Reports are very worthwhile but I would rather read good fiction than most QST product reviews. :-) 73, Bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
Has Rob actually commited to publishing a detailed technical evaluation of the K3? If so, I believe that will be a first. I have searched his web site and cannot find detailed evaluations of *any* current HF rigs. His tables of receiver performance numbers are very convenient, but the numbers themselves do not seem to differ greatly from those found in the QST reviews. He also has a number of very interesting and illuminating white papers, but these are general technical discussions rather than detailed evaluations of specific radios. Mark AI4BJ >Rob Sherwood will publish a detailed technical evaluation long before ARRL >(sans fluff). Rob also is not afraid of offending advertisers by >identifying genuine problems. ARRL's Expanded Test Reports are very >worthwhile but I would rather read good fiction than most QST product >reviews. :-) >73, Bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
> ... I would rather read good fiction than most QST product reviews. :-) There's a difference? Oh, wait, you said GOOD. Yes, there's a difference. LOL! Actually, I like reading the QST reviews but I find I have to read between the lines and take things with a grain of salt. There's good info in there but you have to be able to sift it out. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
Rob Sherwood will publish a detailed technical evaluation long before ARRL (sans fluff). Rob also is not afraid of offending advertisers by identifying genuine problems. ARRL's Expanded Test Reports are very worthwhile but I would rather read good fiction than most QST product reviews. :-) 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--K3--QST-Labs-review-Pool--tp14903894p14918688.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
I suspect they're not jumping in there as part of the early-adopters crowd. I'm guessing they'll order their rig in a while, receive it in late spring and will have the report in the Nov 08 issue. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 Wave 3 - -Original Message- How about a pool? My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008. Anybody else? 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
N2EY wrote: > > My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008. > Doesn't the ARRL buy its review rigs anonymously? If so, they are probably still somewhere in the queue. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A--K3--QST-Labs-review-Pool--tp14903894p14914641.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] QST Labs review? -- Pool?
In a message dated 1/16/08 7:33:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It is more likely > that they will wait until the firmware is more mature, the subreceiver is > available, and all modes are working. Reasonable guess, too. There's also these factors: - there's a considerable amount of time between when a rig arrives at Hq and when the article appears. They do extensive lab tests (whether you agree with their methods or not), try the rig on the air, and more. - They will almost certainly get a kit K3/100 with a lot of options, too. And there will probably be an extended report on the website, same as with the K2. - They will probably want a couple of ops to try it out, just to see how different people react to it. --- How about a pool? My guess is the K3 review will appear in QST for December, 2008. Anybody else? 73 de Jim, N2EY ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
