Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Serial interface question

2020-05-17 Thread Andy Durbin
"Serial IO board K1 is controlled by "SBYB" which traces to signal "BYPRLY".  
The names suggest "bypass relay" but under what circumstances is this signal 
set/cleared?  In other words, when does K1 open the data out line?"

Well I found the answer thanks to another KPA500 owner running a similar test.

It turns out that setting SER POLL to OFF and remaining in the Menu stops 
polling but leaves the relay closed with -12 V on pin 3.

Only when the menu is exited does the relay get deactivated and pin 3 goes open 
circuit.

Similarly, opening the menu and setting SER POLL from Off to On leaves the 
relay open and the relay only closes when the menu is exited.

I wonder how many KPA500 owners have been caught by this.

73,
Andy k3wyc


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[Elecraft] KPA500 Serial interface question

2020-05-16 Thread Andy Durbin
I started down this path because I'm trying to help a Scottish op who seems to 
have a failed KPA500 XCVR port.  (Scope shows no indication of polling when Ser 
Poll is on.)

KPA500 has an IO board with two serial interfaces.  One is for connection to a 
PC and the other for connection to a transceiver.   The data out line of the 
XCVR port passes through relay K1 and I assumed this relay would be open when 
SER POLL is set to OFF.  My scope measurements show this line is actually 
pulled low when SER POLL is Off which implies that K1 is not open.  With Ser 
Poll On I see normal polling with IF;FA;FB;  My interface works ok although I'm 
currently using the PC port not the XCVR for KPA500 control.

I suspect that Jack is the only one who will know the details but I'm asking 
here so others can learn if interested.  My question is:

Serial IO board K1 is controlled by "SBYB" which traces to signal "BYPRLY".  
The names suggest "bypass relay" but under what circumstances is this signal 
set/cleared?  In other words, when does K1 open the data out line?

Thanks and 73,
Andy, k3wyc




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no transmit question...

2019-03-07 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)
Thank you for the answer...  I'll ask him tomorrow...  More as I get 
it... Once I find out I'll also post.


73s and thanks,
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On 3/7/19 7:28 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:

This sounds like there is no RF going into the KPA500. When the KPA500 is in 
STBY mode and he transmits, do the KPA500 indicators show the proper power 
level to match what he thinks the K3 is outputting? He might insert a wattmeter 
between the K3 and KPA500 to make sure that power is going into the KPA when he 
thinks it is. If not, then it is time to diagnose things in the K3.

The folks down in Watsonville are very good at diagnosing system problems of 
this sort. Calling them to help solve the issue would be a good thing.

73!
Jack, W6FB

  


On Mar 7, 2019, at 5:50 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z)  wrote:

I am writing this for a friend, who for now, has limited access to he list.

He has a KPA500/KAT500/K3.  All was working fine last time he used it. Today, 
the amp comes on, but no power.  Here are the details...

1.  Amp shows the "*" when it keys.
2.  K3 shows KPA500 ON, when the amp comes on.
3.  K3 shows KPA500 OPERATE when it is switched to operate.
4.  The K3 reduces power when the KPA500 is in operate mode.
5.  No fault is indicated.

I loomed at TX INHIB, on the K3, and it is OFF as it should be.

All cables are tight...

I just got my KPA500 last week, so my experience is limited.  What am I 
missing?  He will call Elecraft tomorrow, but I want to know if it is a setting 
issue, or something broke.

--
73s and thanks,
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 no transmit question...

2019-03-07 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
This sounds like there is no RF going into the KPA500. When the KPA500 is in 
STBY mode and he transmits, do the KPA500 indicators show the proper power 
level to match what he thinks the K3 is outputting? He might insert a wattmeter 
between the K3 and KPA500 to make sure that power is going into the KPA when he 
thinks it is. If not, then it is time to diagnose things in the K3.

The folks down in Watsonville are very good at diagnosing system problems of 
this sort. Calling them to help solve the issue would be a good thing.

73!
Jack, W6FB

 

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 5:50 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z)  wrote:
> 
> I am writing this for a friend, who for now, has limited access to he list.
> 
> He has a KPA500/KAT500/K3.  All was working fine last time he used it. Today, 
> the amp comes on, but no power.  Here are the details...
> 
> 1.  Amp shows the "*" when it keys.
> 2.  K3 shows KPA500 ON, when the amp comes on.
> 3.  K3 shows KPA500 OPERATE when it is switched to operate.
> 4.  The K3 reduces power when the KPA500 is in operate mode.
> 5.  No fault is indicated.
> 
> I loomed at TX INHIB, on the K3, and it is OFF as it should be.
> 
> All cables are tight...
> 
> I just got my KPA500 last week, so my experience is limited.  What am I 
> missing?  He will call Elecraft tomorrow, but I want to know if it is a 
> setting issue, or something broke.
> 
> -- 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
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[Elecraft] KPA500 no transmit question...

2019-03-07 Thread Dave Cole (NK7Z)

I am writing this for a friend, who for now, has limited access to he list.

He has a KPA500/KAT500/K3.  All was working fine last time he used it. 
Today, the amp comes on, but no power.  Here are the details...


1.  Amp shows the "*" when it keys.
2.  K3 shows KPA500 ON, when the amp comes on.
3.  K3 shows KPA500 OPERATE when it is switched to operate.
4.  The K3 reduces power when the KPA500 is in operate mode.
5.  No fault is indicated.

I loomed at TX INHIB, on the K3, and it is OFF as it should be.

All cables are tight...

I just got my KPA500 last week, so my experience is limited.  What am I 
missing?  He will call Elecraft tomorrow, but I want to know if it is a 
setting issue, or something broke.


--
73s and thanks,
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[Elecraft] KPA500 / KAT500 Cable Question

2013-10-25 Thread Jim Bennett
Just want to be sure nothing has changed from what I found in the archives - I 
am looking at purchasing a KPA500 and KAT500 in the next few weeks and want to 
be sure that, if I opt to use my own SVGA cables (actually from 
CableWholesale.com) that I need to remove pins 1, 6, 7, and 8. Yes?

p.s. - sorry if this is a duplicate - I tried to post it yesterday, but it 
seems to have gone into the ether...

Jim / W6JHB
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[Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Bill
I am considering replacing my 3-500 amplifier (puts out approximately 
850 Watts) with the KPA500. My question: What have users been 
experiencing as output power in the real world? Specifications make 
great reading, but I am interested in what is real.


Thanks,

Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Bill
Thanks to all who answered. I didn't know there was such a perceived 
difference, at the receiving end, between 500 Watts and 850 Watts. I 
have always been under the impression that doubling of power (3 db gain) 
was the least discernible difference and that if you did not, at a 
minimum, double your power - there was really little to be gained.


Also, I am amazed at the reported differences in power - from 350 Watts 
to 600 Watts. That is a rather large disparity.


Thanks,

Bill W2BLC




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
Bill,

Would you be willing to share the data you gathered with the rest of the
group?  I just (as of late last night) replaced my AL-811H with a KPA500.
My tests showed output of 530-550 watts with 35 watts drive from my K3.  I'm
very pleased with that result.

Thanks and 73,

-- Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:05 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

Thanks to all who answered. I didn't know there was such a perceived
difference, at the receiving end, between 500 Watts and 850 Watts. I have
always been under the impression that doubling of power (3 db gain) was the
least discernible difference and that if you did not, at a minimum, double
your power - there was really little to be gained.

Also, I am amazed at the reported differences in power - from 350 Watts to
600 Watts. That is a rather large disparity.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Scott Manthe
My KPA500 puts out 600-650 watts with 35 watts drive on all bands.  I'm 
not sure exactly what's going on with people getting 350 watts out. I'd 
guess those reporting 350 watts are running high duty cycle modes, like 
RTTY or AM.


People listening to your signal will likely notice very little 
difference going 850 watts to 600 watts output. However, the KPA500 adds 
6 meters, QSK and auto bandswitching, which for me was worth more than 
the 3dB I was losing going from 1300 watts to 650.


73,
Scott, N9AA

On 5/12/13 9:05 AM, Bill wrote:
Thanks to all who answered. I didn't know there was such a perceived 
difference, at the receiving end, between 500 Watts and 850 Watts. I 
have always been under the impression that doubling of power (3 db 
gain) was the least discernible difference and that if you did not, at 
a minimum, double your power - there was really little to be gained.


Also, I am amazed at the reported differences in power - from 350 
Watts to 600 Watts. That is a rather large disparity.


Thanks,

Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Jim Miller
I still see people reading the SSB signal as low power on the meter and
believing it is PEP.  Depends on who is reading the meter and the
peak/average setting as well.
73, Jim KG0KP

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

My KPA500 puts out 600-650 watts with 35 watts drive on all bands.  I'm not
sure exactly what's going on with people getting 350 watts out. I'd guess
those reporting 350 watts are running high duty cycle modes, like RTTY or
AM.

People listening to your signal will likely notice very little difference
going 850 watts to 600 watts output. However, the KPA500 adds
6 meters, QSK and auto bandswitching, which for me was worth more than the
3dB I was losing going from 1300 watts to 650.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 5/12/13 9:05 AM, Bill wrote:
 Thanks to all who answered. I didn't know there was such a perceived 
 difference, at the receiving end, between 500 Watts and 850 Watts. I 
 have always been under the impression that doubling of power (3 db
 gain) was the least discernible difference and that if you did not, at 
 a minimum, double your power - there was really little to be gained.

 Also, I am amazed at the reported differences in power - from 350 
 Watts to 600 Watts. That is a rather large disparity.

 Thanks,

 Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Tim Hague
My KPA500 loafs at 400W with about 30W of drive (UK legal limit), driven to max 
power it's about 650W with 35W.
I think the disparity between results may be down to the type of load being 
driven.

Best regards, Tim Hague, M0AFJ
Skype m0afj.Tim
Sent on my iPad


On 12 May 2013, at 18:29, Scott Manthe scott.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 My KPA500 puts out 600-650 watts with 35 watts drive on all bands.  I'm not 
 sure exactly what's going on with people getting 350 watts out. I'd guess 
 those reporting 350 watts are running high duty cycle modes, like RTTY or AM.
 
 People listening to your signal will likely notice very little difference 
 going 850 watts to 600 watts output. However, the KPA500 adds 6 meters, QSK 
 and auto bandswitching, which for me was worth more than the 3dB I was losing 
 going from 1300 watts to 650.
 
 73,
 Scott, N9AA
 
 On 5/12/13 9:05 AM, Bill wrote:
 Thanks to all who answered. I didn't know there was such a perceived 
 difference, at the receiving end, between 500 Watts and 850 Watts. I have 
 always been under the impression that doubling of power (3 db gain) was the 
 least discernible difference and that if you did not, at a minimum, double 
 your power - there was really little to be gained.
 
 Also, I am amazed at the reported differences in power - from 350 Watts to 
 600 Watts. That is a rather large disparity.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Bill W2BLC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Bill
I received many direct emails - far more than are posted here. As they 
were sent to me directly, I assume the sender's did not wish to share. 
Hence, I would not feel comfortable in sharing same.


Suffice to say: Most emailers are happy with the KPA500 and do recommend 
it. However, based on a number of comments, I do think I will purchase 
the 500 Watt tuner box also.


Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Stephen Prior
Bill,

I suspect it has more to do with the default reply nature of the group, in
that replies are sent straight back to the originator of the message rather
than to the group itself.  It's not typical of the way that groups tend to
be set up these days and so catches us all out from time to time!

If I may add my indirect experience of the KPA500 in that a good friend of
mine bought one, he too very quickly followed up with an order for the
KAT500 and is, I believe, very happy with its performance.

73 Stephen G4SJP


On 12 May 2013 20:35, Bill b...@w2blc.net wrote:

 I received many direct emails - far more than are posted here. As they
 were sent to me directly, I assume the sender's did not wish to share.
 Hence, I would not feel comfortable in sharing same.

 Suffice to say: Most emailers are happy with the KPA500 and do recommend
 it. However, based on a number of comments, I do think I will purchase the
 500 Watt tuner box also.

 Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 - power out question

2013-05-12 Thread Tom H Childers

I have found that the KPA500 and KAT500 combination is outstanding.
In fact one thing I noticed right away about the KAT500 is that when
it is tuned correctly I can both see and hear the difference in RX
signal strength in the headphones and on the P3 SVGA screen.

My Alpha 87A and Palstar AT5K are both setting idle now until I begin
to get serious about DXCC on 160m and 80m CW this fall.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member 

On Sun, 12 May 2013 20:42:39 +0100, Stephen Prior
eastbrantw...@gmail.com wrote:

Bill,

I suspect it has more to do with the default reply nature of the group, in
that replies are sent straight back to the originator of the message rather
than to the group itself.  It's not typical of the way that groups tend to
be set up these days and so catches us all out from time to time!

If I may add my indirect experience of the KPA500 in that a good friend of
mine bought one, he too very quickly followed up with an order for the
KAT500 and is, I believe, very happy with its performance.

73 Stephen G4SJP
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[Elecraft] KPA500 voltage tap question

2012-09-08 Thread Robert G. Strickland
Hello, all...

I've just finished assembling my KPA500 and have a question about selecting the 
correct tap wire to set the operating voltage.

My 220v line reads 231v no load, so I selected the yellow tap. The amp no load 
voltage is 71.7v. The transmitting voltage is 58v DC which is marginally low. 
If I 
select the red tap then I expect I'll be marginally high. If my choice is 
between 
marginally low and marginally high, which is the better choice? Thanks for 
comments.

Sure is a nice piece of equipment... as usual from Elecraft.

...robert
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Robert G. Strickland, PhD, ABPH - KE2WY
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Syracuse, New York, USA
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 voltage tap question

2012-09-08 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Robert G. Strickland rc...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hello, all...

 I've just finished assembling my KPA500 and have a question about selecting 
 the
 correct tap wire to set the operating voltage.

 My 220v line reads 231v no load, so I selected the yellow tap. The amp no load
 voltage is 71.7v. The transmitting voltage is 58v DC which is marginally low. 
 If I
 select the red tap then I expect I'll be marginally high. If my choice is 
 between
 marginally low and marginally high, which is the better choice? Thanks for 
 comments.

Try the red tap. So long as the idle voltage is still under 85V, go with it.

73,

~iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] KPA500 pounded--fan question

2011-08-12 Thread eric norris
Dear Gang:
 
I have been pounding my KPA500 on 6m WSJT meteor scatter and love it (this is 
30 sec rx, 30 sec TX full power for hours).  Here is my question for you RF 
engineers.
 
I have been testing the fan settings.  Here is what I get for the peak PA temp 
at different settings.
 
NOR = 65, 3 = 65, 4 = 61, 5 = 55, 6 = 52 degrees peak PA temp.  These are all 
stablized numbers.  One of the most charming attributes of the KPA500 is its 
SILENCE.  I hardly ever hear it when I use it on CW at NOR fan setting.  
 
So, will I prolong the life of my PA transistors with a higher fan setting in 
this application?  If the PA sensor is reading 65 degrees, the actual device 
temperature has got to be higher.  Is the higher fan speed and increased noise 
worth it?  Or should I leave it on NOR.
 
Thanks,
 
Eric WD6DBM  
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500]And the question is ...

2011-03-16 Thread David Cutter
A European model will be required: we don't have the gain restriction you 
have, however, we do like stability and putting lots of gain into one box 
could be tricky.

David
G3UNA


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From: Phil Townsend phi...@mac.com
To: Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500]And the question is ...


I'll do it!
Just send me a KPA500 and I am good to go!
Phil
Santa Fe
On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Bruce Beford wrote:

 Mark wrote:

 Who is going to calculated alternate replacement values of the resistors
 in the two attenuators so that the KPA500 may be driven to a   full 500
 watts by a K3 / 10?
 Mark, NØOKS

 You are, if you intend to try this on your new KPA-500. -Bruce, N1RX

 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500]And the question is ...

2011-03-16 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Agreed.

73, Eric


On 3/16/2011 11:02 AM, David Cutter wrote:
 we don't have the gain restriction you
 have, however, we do like stability and putting lots of gain into one box
 could be tricky.

 David
 G3UNA
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[Elecraft] [KPA500]And the question is ...

2011-03-15 Thread Mark Kachel
Who is going to calculated alternate replacement values of the resistors in the 
two attenuators so that the KPA500 may be driven to a full 500 watts by a K3 / 
10?

Mark, NØOKS
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500]And the question is ...

2011-03-15 Thread Bruce Beford
Mark wrote:

 Who is going to calculated alternate replacement values of the resistors
in the two attenuators so that the KPA500 may be driven to a   full 500
watts by a K3 / 10?
 Mark, NØOKS
 
You are, if you intend to try this on your new KPA-500. -Bruce, N1RX

 

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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500]And the question is ...

2011-03-15 Thread Phil Townsend
I'll do it!
Just send me a KPA500 and I am good to go!
Phil
Santa Fe
On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Bruce Beford wrote:

 Mark wrote:
 
 Who is going to calculated alternate replacement values of the resistors
 in the two attenuators so that the KPA500 may be driven to a   full 500
 watts by a K3 / 10?
 Mark, NØOKS
 
 You are, if you intend to try this on your new KPA-500. -Bruce, N1RX
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KPA500]And the question is ...

2011-03-15 Thread Mark Kachel
OK, so far I get the first pad to have a characteristic impedance of 70 ohms 
and an attenuation of 2.5 dB. I need help on the second one as it is an 
impedance converter also.

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[Elecraft] KPA500 carrying case question

2011-03-04 Thread John Fritze
I would take one to match the K3 bag I got from you.  Of course I'd like the
amp first ;-)

John
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 carrying case question

2011-03-04 Thread Oscar Staudt
Rose,
  I'll buy one when I get the amp.  However, because my SGC-230 autotuner
can't handle the power, I probably won't buy the amp until Elecraft releases
the new autotuner and I have one of those.

Oscar, WB5GCX

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Rose elecraftcov...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'm about to have foam end caps made for carrying
 the KPA500 amplifier in a DXpedition case, and I'd
 like to have some idea of how many to order.  They
 will be identical to the K3 cases.

 Do you expect to purchase one?

 73!

 Rose - N7HKW
 elecraftcov...@gmail.com


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 carrying case question

2011-03-04 Thread dw
Carrying CaseHmmm... is the KPA500 in production?


Sorry Rose for posing a question off your post!
Duane

I'm about to have foam end caps made for carrying 
the KPA500 amplifier in a DXpedition case, and I'd 
like to have some idea of how many to order.  They 
will be identical to the K3 cases.

Do you expect to purchase one?
Rose
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 carrying case question

2011-03-04 Thread Rose

Hi Duane,

No, the KPA500 isn't in production that I'm aware of, 
but will be soon.

I'm just getting prepared.  I've already made a dust
cover for one of the beta testers, and have a number
of responses to my question that indicate plans to
purchase dust covers and/or carrying cases by future
KPA500 purchasers.

73!

Rose - N7HKW
elecraftcov...@gmail.com 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 carrying case question

2011-03-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Rose,

I confirm that I need both a dust cover and a carry case and when your ready
please let me know so that I can make arrangements with you.

Regards,
Gary

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:35 AM, Rose elecraftcov...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Duane,

 No, the KPA500 isn't in production that I'm aware of,
 but will be soon.

 I'm just getting prepared.  I've already made a dust
 cover for one of the beta testers, and have a number
 of responses to my question that indicate plans to
 purchase dust covers and/or carrying cases by future
 KPA500 purchasers.

 73!

 Rose - N7HKW
 elecraftcov...@gmail.com
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[Elecraft] KPA500 carrying case question

2011-03-03 Thread Rose

I'm about to have foam end caps made for carrying 
the KPA500 amplifier in a DXpedition case, and I'd 
like to have some idea of how many to order.  They 
will be identical to the K3 cases.

Do you expect to purchase one?

73!

Rose - N7HKW
elecraftcov...@gmail.com

 
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