Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Real SOS

2012-04-15 Thread Doug Smith
In the old days there were some pretty creaky old timers out there.  
But, the newer SOLAS requirements pretty much put an end to that.

Now, anyone working on a ship has to have gone through a couple of days 
of survival swimming, a couple of days of ship-board fire fighting 
training, etc. etc.  I suppose it depends on which training facility one 
attends but the various courses are somewhat rigorous and a good many 
people wash-out.

And, of course, once all that is accomplished one *still* needs a 2nd 
Telegraph license!  It's an odd set of rules.  You need an FCC 1st or 
2nd Telegraph license in order to get the USCG License as an R/O.  But, 
the FCC doesn't care about the 2nd Telegraph, they only require the 
GMDSS license.  It's hilarious..

73,
-Doug, W7KF
http://www.w7kf.com


On 04/15/2012 07:00 AM, drewko wrote:
 Hah, hah... I imagine it was a real judgement call for the FCC
 inspector as to just how thoroughly the lifeboat radio must be tested
 while some ancient sparks was grinding away wheezing and sputtering
 at the crank...

 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Real SOS

2012-04-15 Thread Phil Kane
On 4/15/2012 9:26 AM, Doug Smith wrote:

 And, of course, once all that is accomplished one *still* needs a 2nd 
 Telegraph license!  It's an odd set of rules.  You need an FCC 1st or 
 2nd Telegraph license in order to get the USCG License as an R/O.  But, 
 the FCC doesn't care about the 2nd Telegraph, they only require the 
 GMDSS license.  It's hilarious..

But how many ships still carry ROs as we knew them?  Any deck officer
can operate the radiotelephone or radiotelex.
---
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Real SOS

2012-04-15 Thread Tony Read
Ge all 

I am looking for a used 10watt K3. I would like it to run my transverters 
G0GMS Tony 

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On 4/15/2012 9:26 AM, Doug Smith wrote:

 And, of course, once all that is accomplished one *still* needs a 2nd 
 Telegraph license!  It's an odd set of rules.  You need an FCC 1st or 
 2nd Telegraph license in order to get the USCG License as an R/O.  
 But, the FCC doesn't care about the 2nd Telegraph, they only require 
 the GMDSS license.  It's hilarious..

But how many ships still carry ROs as we knew them?  Any deck officer can
operate the radiotelephone or radiotelex.
---
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Real SOS

2012-04-15 Thread Doug Smith
The USNS and the gray hulls in the Ready Reserve fleet all carry R/Os.  
Those ships still have real radio shacks with HF gear in them although 
they get used on Mil frequencies not on maritime freqs.  Also, secure 
satellite, etc.  Need a Secret clearance to get the job these days.

I think all the commercial ships dumped R/Os as fast as they could when 
GMDSS came into being.

I actually re-licensed in 2003 and took a couple of ships over the the 
Persian Gulf for OIF-I and OIF-II.  Taking the 2nd Telegraph *again* was 
kinda fun..  [Ending my involvement in the thread now. Sorry to stray so 
far and for so long..]

73,
-Doug, W7KF


On 04/15/2012 10:58 AM, Phil Kane wrote:
 But how many ships still carry ROs as we knew them? Any deck officer 
 can operate the radiotelephone or radiotelex. --- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane 
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Real SOS

2012-04-15 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
They have a choice: Have a contract with a licensed GMDSS service company in
each port of call, and certain redundant equipment on board, or carry a
licensed GMDSS system maintainer who makes repairs on board. 

73,

Ron AC7AC (and licensed GMDSS maintainer and GMDSS operator). 

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Real SOS

The USNS and the gray hulls in the Ready Reserve fleet all carry R/Os.  
Those ships still have real radio shacks with HF gear in them although they
get used on Mil frequencies not on maritime freqs.  Also, secure satellite,
etc.  Need a Secret clearance to get the job these days.

I think all the commercial ships dumped R/Os as fast as they could when
GMDSS came into being.

I actually re-licensed in 2003 and took a couple of ships over the the
Persian Gulf for OIF-I and OIF-II.  Taking the 2nd Telegraph *again* was
kinda fun..  [Ending my involvement in the thread now. Sorry to stray so far
and for so long..]

73,
-Doug, W7KF

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