Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Every 6 months or so, a wire antenna thread is started. I never cease to learn something new in these threads and enjoy them quite a bit. This reflector is an amazing source of knowledge, from those who could design an amazing radio, while blind drunk, and drawn out on the back of a cocktail napkin, to those who whistle into the microphone to check their amp, and everything in-between. And we all have something we can learn from each other. That is what has kept me on this list. - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 07:52 +0100, Jan Erik Holm wrote: Is this the ARRL reflector? Or the RTTY reflector? or the antenna reflector? or the anything goes reflector? When I subscribed I had the impression it was the Elecraft reflector, obviously I was wrong. Can someone point me to the Elecraft reflector. / SM2EKM Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Heh, Heh... I bought a Life membership in 76 for $250. I feel the same as you about the ARRL's attitude regarding CW, that's why I won't ever drop my membership. It's costing THEM to send ME mags now ;o) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Hi there My first contest action with K3 #29 was the RU last weekend managed to be on the air for a couple of houres on 20 meters With a 50 feet long wire worked 18 countries and 12 US States from HB9-land Pretty frustrated that i could copy a lot of stations deep in the qrm/noise in RTTY but they didnt hear me.. must be a darn good receiver..hi Next thing to do: put up a decent antenna. Hp to wk u in the next rtty test. 73 de Tom -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Thanks for the report. I am anxious to get my K3 and 200 kc roofing filter for the RTTY contests! Adjacent big signal qrm does curious things to your ability to copy good print. Mike W0MU On 1/7/08 6:23 AM, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there My first contest action with K3 #29 was the RU last weekend managed to be on the air for a couple of houres on 20 meters With a 50 feet long wire worked 18 countries and 12 US States from HB9-land Pretty frustrated that i could copy a lot of stations deep in the qrm/noise in RTTY but they didnt hear me.. must be a darn good receiver..hi Next thing to do: put up a decent antenna. Hp to wk u in the next rtty test. 73 de Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Hi tom: My first contest action with K3 #29 was the RU last weekend managed to be on the air for a couple of houres on 20 meters With a 50 feet long wire worked 18 countries and 12 US States from HB9-land Pretty frustrated that i could copy a lot of stations deep in the qrm/noise in RTTY but they didnt hear me.. must be a darn good receiver.. hi Next thing to do: put up a decent antenna. Hp to wk u in the next rtty test. Congratulations on being active in the RTTY RU. There were a number of stations I called but could not work either. I think much of the problem was they THEY were being called by many others as well and my signal was not the strongest of the bunch. I did not stick around many time to make multiple calls to a station, if I did not work him on the 3rd call, I moved on. I suspect that if I had been more tenacious at calling, eventually he'd have heard me and I'd have worked him... G Ed, W0YK, was operating SO2R (two K3's) from P49X... from his QSO total, I suspect he may well have WON the entire contest...! I heard no QSO totals anywhere even close to Ed's 2500 Q's... at least so far. I operated without any external logging support, using only the K3's CW-to-RTTY conversion features and its internal RTTY decoding. Working stations was NO PROBLEM AT ALL... tuning them in using the K3's dual passband RTTY tuning option was as easy as anything and then having the exchange pre-programmed into a couple memories allowed me to just punch the button and go... when someone asked for a 'fill' I just sent it with the CW paddles and completed the contact. My 'effort' was something less than 'sterling' but I did knock out 20 or so Q's in a very short amount of time. Lots of fun. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Ed, W0YK, was operating SO2R (two K3's) from P49X... from his QSO total, I suspect he may well have WON the entire contest...! I heard no QSO totals anywhere even close to Ed's 2500 Q's... at least so far. I would have preferred to use two K3's, but chose not to subject them to TSA on the trip down (and back). One I could hand-carry, but two is a bit much. Checked luggage is a crap shoot with TSA now. Even the TailTwister rotor, new in the box, that I had inside a suitcase, had parts and accessories removed from the factory packing and not returned but just tossed in the suitcase. I really don't want to subject my K3's to that kind of handling. However, the ICOM 756ProII's that we have down here worked great. Prior to the K3, it was my favorite RTTY radio. Ultimately, I'd like to have two K3's down here permanently, but let's not start another K3 availability thread over this comment! 73, Ed - P49X (W0YK) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the air. Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY splatter from 7.025 to 7.100. Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell. I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY CQ TEST. I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive. WA7CS ARRL member since 1970 ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ARRL-RTTY-Roundup-tp14665879p14668697.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Hello, I have been a long time member of the ARRL, but I'm begining to think the same way. Are they really supporting the operating that I do? I really don't know. But, I'm more inclined to think they are headed down a road that I don't want to follow. Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN - Original Message - From: WA7CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the air. Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY splatter from 7.025 to 7.100. Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell. I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY CQ TEST. I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive. WA7CS ARRL member since 1970 ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ARRL-RTTY-Roundup-tp14665879p14668697.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Might I suggest that instead of dropping out of the ARRL. Rejoin and swamp EVERYONE and I mean everyone at ARRL HQ with letters and emails voicing your concern and opinions on the direction that the ARRL is heading. Then when elections come vote your concerns and opinions. Now I don't want to start a major OFF Thread discussion with this. We should stay the fight and not give up. ONE mans opinion can make a difference. Just ask Wayne and Eric. RC kc5wa On Jan 7, 2008 9:54 AM, DW Holtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have been a long time member of the ARRL, but I'm begining to think the same way. Are they really supporting the operating that I do? I really don't know. But, I'm more inclined to think they are headed down a road that I don't want to follow. Best, DW Holtman WB7SSN - Original Message - From: WA7CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the air. Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY splatter from 7.025 to 7.100. Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell. I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY CQ TEST. I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive. WA7CS ARRL member since 1970 ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ARRL-RTTY-Roundup-tp14665879p14668697.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
WA7CS wrote: I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY CQ TEST. Any contacts that this fellow made here would certainly not count, since the rules specify 80, 40, 20, 15, and 10 meters only. Anyway, this part of the band is normally used for digital modes, so it's likely you would have this problem even if there weren't a contest. The QRP calling frequency on 30 meters is 10.106 MHz. I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive. It really has nothing to do with the ARRL, except peripherally in that ARRL sponsors 8 contests per year (including VHF contests). International SSB contests also swamp CW frequencies, and big CW contests swamp digital mode frequencies. The RTTY contest is one of the least intrusive; I made numerous CW contacts over the weekend without any problems. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco CW operator and ARRL member since 1956 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
At 12:13 PM 1/7/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I listened to RTTY a bit as DATA A and FSK but found the default filter setting to be too narrow - I could only see one station at a time. It might work well if you were running but for SP, I needed the wide filter. When I widened the filter, the AGC caused a desense of the spectrum when a big signal fired up. I was using Winwarbler for the RTTY engine. I guess the answer is to compromise on a 1khz roofing filter? I think the answer is a good panadaptor. Look into using the softrock40 and PowerSDR combo - excellent panadaptor. This will let you actually see the individual sigs and see what type they are (rtty or CW, e.g.). When my K3 gets here I will be working on this first. Search on powersdr test drive to see the panadaptor in action. Also search on softrock and k3 panadaptor. Jerry W4UK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Can we redirect this to talk about the K3? 1. Using the K3, I have no problem working CW amidst the RTTY contesters. Just narrow the filter and ignore them. You cause them more grief than they cause you. 2. I listened to RTTY a bit as DATA A and FSK but found the default filter setting to be too narrow - I could only see one station at a time. It might work well if you were running but for SP, I needed the wide filter. When I widened the filter, the AGC caused a desense of the spectrum when a big signal fired up. I was using Winwarbler for the RTTY engine. I guess the answer is to compromise on a 1khz roofing filter? Any comments? What do you find to be the best combination for RTTY? k4ia Craig Buck Fredericksburg, Virginia K3 #101 **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
30m was not used in the RTTY Round up. Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go? The ARRL band plans suggest...Suggest the following for normal everyday use. 3570-3600 7040, 7080-7125 10130-10140 14070-14095 The FCC allows USA hams to operate RTTY on the following frequencies. 3500-3600 7000-7125 10100-10150 14000-14150 It appears that all this RTTY activity is clearly within the rules. The Roundup was for 24 hours and the RTTY operators used lots of bandwidth that for the most part goes unused. There are always a few hams that seem to think they own certain frequencies and get upset when they are used by other amateurs for other purposes for brief periods of time. I guess the fun of the many have to be sacrificed for the few? Riley Hollingsworth, Chief Counsel for the FCC, spoke at great lengths about this type of attitude the last two years at Dayton. I think you can find it at the ARRL site or even on Youtube or other ham web pages. It is worth the few minutes of time to hear what he has to say. The extra portions of the bands were for the most part RTTY free. Many amateur bands did not have any contest activity on them at all. 12, 17, 160, 60, 2, 6 etc. There were plenty of CW signals to copy outside the RTTY areas. I suspect your complaints are not targeted at just the RTTY crowd but probably at contesting in general. This same contesting that gets people to use 10m at the minimums and utilizes a good portion of our bands on a regular basis which helps keep our claims to these frequencies. This same contesting group which is a huge buying force in Ham radio and a huge force to bring on new ideas and rigs such as the K3. RTTY is one part of the hobby and so is SSTV, QRP, SSB, AM, PSK etc. If contests are that troublesome find a non contest band or simply turn off your radio for the weekend and mow the lawn etc. On 1/7/08 8:40 AM, WA7CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the air. Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY splatter from 7.025 to 7.100. Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell. I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY CQ TEST. I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive. WA7CS ARRL member since 1970 ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Talk about leaving yourself wide open! Be careful what you ask, you might not like the answer! --- Mike Fatchett W0MU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup [END of Thread]
Guys - Let's end this thread. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator WILLIS COOKE wrote: Talk about leaving yourself wide open! Be careful what you ask, you might not like the answer! --- Mike Fatchett W0MU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
The 7040, and 7080-7125 has existed for some time now as an existing :Gentlemen's agreement. The 7040 spot was specifically provided for working DX in Region 1 where these people cannot operate above 7100. Ditto for the 20 meter band from 14070-14150 etc. This band plan was specifically provided to keep CW stations off the 'digital' frequencies and RTTY stations off the CW segments that are being frequently invaded by RTTY contesters. Yes the FCC allows what you say, but is is bad form and hogs the entire CW sub-band during a RTTY contest. That is the whole idea of seperating digital and manual CW areas of operation. If it was once a year there would be no problem, but the RTTY contests seem to appear every other weekend nowadays. I have no problems with contesting as such, but one mode shouldn't occupy the whole sub-band for frequent contests. Take for example the CW QRP groups and the SKCC and FISTS CW groups. They specify a narrow band to be used by the contests leaving the rest of the band for non-contesters or DX hunters. Most of the other digital modes (except RTTY) seem to stay inside the Gentlemen's Agreement bandplan. Why don't the RTTY contesters do the same? Unfortunately, a lot of the RTTY crowd seems to think they should have the whole CW sub band for their contests and ignore any bandplan that gives a RTTY free area to go to for CW communications (besides the WARC bands!) IS this too much to ask? 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Mike Fatchett W0MU [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WA7CS [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup 30m was not used in the RTTY Round up. Just where would you like the RTTY stations to go? The ARRL band plans suggest...Suggest the following for normal everyday use. 3570-3600 7040, 7080-7125 10130-10140 14070-14095 The FCC allows USA hams to operate RTTY on the following frequencies. 3500-3600 7000-7125 10100-10150 14000-14150 It appears that all this RTTY activity is clearly within the rules. The Roundup was for 24 hours and the RTTY operators used lots of bandwidth that for the most part goes unused. There are always a few hams that seem to think they own certain frequencies and get upset when they are used by other amateurs for other purposes for brief periods of time. I guess the fun of the many have to be sacrificed for the few? Riley Hollingsworth, Chief Counsel for the FCC, spoke at great lengths about this type of attitude the last two years at Dayton. I think you can find it at the ARRL site or even on Youtube or other ham web pages. It is worth the few minutes of time to hear what he has to say. The extra portions of the bands were for the most part RTTY free. Many amateur bands did not have any contest activity on them at all. 12, 17, 160, 60, 2, 6 etc. There were plenty of CW signals to copy outside the RTTY areas. I suspect your complaints are not targeted at just the RTTY crowd but probably at contesting in general. This same contesting that gets people to use 10m at the minimums and utilizes a good portion of our bands on a regular basis which helps keep our claims to these frequencies. This same contesting group which is a huge buying force in Ham radio and a huge force to bring on new ideas and rigs such as the K3. RTTY is one part of the hobby and so is SSTV, QRP, SSB, AM, PSK etc. If contests are that troublesome find a non contest band or simply turn off your radio for the weekend and mow the lawn etc. On 1/7/08 8:40 AM, WA7CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the air. Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY splatter from 7.025 to 7.100. Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell. I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY CQ TEST. I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive. WA7CS ARRL member since 1970 ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:40:31 -0800 (PST), WA7CS wrote: After a week of building a new K1, I was anxious to try it out and get on the air. Imagine my dismay when all I could hear was a racous cacaphony of RTTY splatter from 7.025 to 7.100. Similarly 14.060 was also RTTY hell. I was even pushed off of 10.130 (WARC) by an incessant RTTY CQ TEST. I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Heh, Heh... I bought a Life membership in 76 for $250. I feel the same as you about the ARRL's attitude regarding CW, that's why I won't ever drop my membership. It's costing THEM to send ME mags now ;o) Renewal of my ARRL membership is becoming less and less attractive. WA7CS ARRL member since 1970 ARRL EWA HF Awards Manager Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: Heh, Heh... I bought a Life membership in 76 for $250. I feel the same as you about the ARRL's attitude regarding CW, that's why I won't ever drop my membership. It's costing THEM to send ME mags now ;o) I too am a Life Member...so I can't deprive them of my money. I suspect your outlook is a realistic one...since the ARRL Board is a mirror of American politics...there are not enough unhappy voters to make a difference. What's next after ARRL rings, affinity credit cards for The League, Auto Insurance? How about ARRL beer...it could be sold as the real, official, approved 807. Think of it...hundreds of hams at Dayton with Call Sign adjustable hats, ARRL rings, sucking down 807s as they charge things to their ARRL branded plastic money. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ARRL RTTY Roundup
Is this the ARRL reflector? Or the RTTY reflector? or the antenna reflector? or the anything goes reflector? When I subscribed I had the impression it was the Elecraft reflector, obviously I was wrong. Can someone point me to the Elecraft reflector. / SM2EKM Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: I wonder what drives the ritty boys to swamp the traditional CW bands and wipe out the QRP calling freqs - oh yes, now I remember, the ARRL has deemed CW as non-relevant. Heh, Heh... I bought a Life membership in 76 for $250. I feel the same as you about the ARRL's attitude regarding CW, that's why I won't ever drop my membership. It's costing THEM to send ME mags now ;o) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
