Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting
On 4/9/2009 7:05 PM, Jack Brindle wrote: > The problem with the six fiber cables (four in south San Jose, > two in San Mateo) appear to be deliberate acts of sabotage, meant > to cause harm. They were perpetrated by someone who knew what > they were doing. It would be next to impossible to secure against > such an act, especially since it may be (looks like, and is > reported as being) an inside job. This may be connected with the strike that is supposed to start today. More info I cannot speculate on (because I don't know it all). It's AT&T Security's problem. Meanwhile I use my K2 as a happy camper! -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting
Not only that, but the major electric feeders are also run out in the open! Long-distance transmission lines, whether they be for communications, power transfer or car/truck/train throughways are necessarily run through non-secure areas, in most cases in the open. It would be extremely impractical to do otherwise, and would make the services prohibitively expensive. The problem with the six fiber cables (four in south San Jose, two in San Mateo) appear to be deliberate acts of sabotage, meant to cause harm. They were perpetrated by someone who knew what they were doing. It would be next to impossible to secure against such an act, especially since it may be (looks like, and is reported as being) an inside job. At this point the local news continues to report that the outage is ongoing with no estimate as to when repairs will be completed. They are also reporting that just about everything to do with the two cuts are under criminal investigation. Let's hope that the folks in Aptos come back on line very soon. -Jack Brindle, W6FB === On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > It was deliberate, apparently in both cases... > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTL&tsp=1 > > > > So the communications capabilities for a few million people are > routed through some unattended vaults in public places and there's > no security system to alert someone when one of the vaults is opened. > > It's not clear to me who is the most dangerous: the execs > responsible for security or the guys who cut the cables. > > Ron AC7AC > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting
It was deliberate, apparently in both cases... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTL&tsp=1 So the communications capabilities for a few million people are routed through some unattended vaults in public places and there's no security system to alert someone when one of the vaults is opened. It's not clear to me who is the most dangerous: the execs responsible for security or the guys who cut the cables. Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting
It was deliberate, apparently in both cases... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/04/09/BAP816VTE6.DTL&tsp=1 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 13:13, Jack Brindle wrote: > The word here in Silicon Valley is that Verizon had a major fiber cable > break. It has taken out pretty much all their communications in the south > valley down into Monterrey. This includes telphone, cell phones, internets, > and their other communications. No word on when it will be repaired. > Meanwhile, the other half of the valley, on ATT, continues right along. We > got lucky this time, next time it could be us... > > Jack Brindle, W6FB > > -Original Message- >>From: Ken Kopp >>Sent: Apr 9, 2009 11:13 AM >>To: AD6XY , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network >> timeout" >> >>I have no idea of the cause, of course but as a retired utility >>communications tech I'll tell you that anything is possible and >>sooner-or-later will happen. A utility simply can't cover every >>possible uh-oh. >> >>My utility ... like most ... uses an extensive microwave system >>for control of the largest utility in the US (In square miles served) >>and there are extensive "backups and alternatives. This being >>said, an earthquake that would disturb rowers and dish alignment >>would be a major disaster. Ditto for a large forest fire. The dense >>smoke can cause HV lines to flash over, causing them to "trip out", >>and can cause very wide-spread outages. >> >>Lots can and does happen. >> >>73! Ken Kopp - K0PP >> >> >>__ >>Elecraft mailing list >>Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >>This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting
The word here in Silicon Valley is that Verizon had a major fiber cable break. It has taken out pretty much all their communications in the south valley down into Monterrey. This includes telphone, cell phones, internets, and their other communications. No word on when it will be repaired. Meanwhile, the other half of the valley, on ATT, continues right along. We got lucky this time, next time it could be us... Jack Brindle, W6FB -Original Message- >From: Ken Kopp >Sent: Apr 9, 2009 11:13 AM >To: AD6XY , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network >timeout" > >I have no idea of the cause, of course but as a retired utility >communications tech I'll tell you that anything is possible and >sooner-or-later will happen. A utility simply can't cover every >possible uh-oh. > >My utility ... like most ... uses an extensive microwave system >for control of the largest utility in the US (In square miles served) >and there are extensive "backups and alternatives. This being >said, an earthquake that would disturb rowers and dish alignment >would be a major disaster. Ditto for a large forest fire. The dense >smoke can cause HV lines to flash over, causing them to "trip out", >and can cause very wide-spread outages. > >Lots can and does happen. > >73! Ken Kopp - K0PP > > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
I have no idea of the cause, of course but as a retired utility communications tech I'll tell you that anything is possible and sooner-or-later will happen. A utility simply can't cover every possible uh-oh. My utility ... like most ... uses an extensive microwave system for control of the largest utility in the US (In square miles served) and there are extensive "backups and alternatives. This being said, an earthquake that would disturb rowers and dish alignment would be a major disaster. Ditto for a large forest fire. The dense smoke can cause HV lines to flash over, causing them to "trip out", and can cause very wide-spread outages. Lots can and does happen. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
I'm in Santa Cruz, and things like telephones (landlines), cell phones, and DSL is down for a lot of people. Even 911 service (!). Sigh. So much for redundancy on the part of the backbone providers, eh? Jeff N6GQ On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:03, AD6XY wrote: > > It has been down all day for us. I am surprised such a failure is allowed - > someone will be in deep trouble. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft%27s-website-down--I-keep-getting-%22network-timeout%22-tp2612190p2612594.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
It has been down all day for us. I am surprised such a failure is allowed - someone will be in deep trouble. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft%27s-website-down--I-keep-getting-%22network-timeout%22-tp2612190p2612594.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "networktimeout"
Andy Faber wrote: > I have heard that there's an ATT&T trunk line cut in San Jose that affects > service to the Santa Cruz County area, including Aptos. Telephones and > internet are affected. Wayne will be cut off from distractions, able only to work on firmware! Who knows what the result will be... -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
> Hope this is temporary. what's the cause? Major disruption in the 831 area code area. Affecting telephones, internet, etc. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting"networktimeout"
Well, there is always 20 meters!!! :) Russ Garrett Kd7mpk -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy Faber Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:19 AM To: Lyle Johnson; Chris Wagner Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting"networktimeout" I have heard that there's an ATT&T trunk line cut in San Jose that affects service to the Santa Cruz County area, including Aptos. Telephones and internet are affected. 73, andy, ae6y mail.bullivant.com made the following annotations - Please be advised that, unless expressly stated otherwise, any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this e-mail, including attachments, is not intended to be used by any person for the purpose of avoiding any penalties that may be imposed by the Internal Revenue Service. * This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contains information belonging to Bullivant Houser Bailey, which is confidential and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this e-mail information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "networktimeout"
I have heard that there's an ATT&T trunk line cut in San Jose that affects service to the Santa Cruz County area, including Aptos. Telephones and internet are affected. 73, andy, ae6y - Original Message - From: "Lyle Johnson" To: "Chris Wagner" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "networktimeout" >> Hope this is temporary. what's the cause? > > Major disruption in the 831 area code area. Affecting telephones, > internet, etc. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
This is probably 8 days too late, but the site may be down because of a whole lot of new products being announced. Apple takes it's site down while updating for new products. Elecraft is following he same strategy. Look for a spectrum display that beats the one built into ICOM7800 in responsiveness and sensitivity, the new amplifiers 800 and 1500W, gps disciplined oscillators, and more. Just wait a bit... Raj, N2RD On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Chris Wagner wrote: > Hope this is temporary. what's the cause? > > -- > Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen > > Chris Wagner KF6VCI > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft's website down? I keep getting "network timeout"
Hope this is temporary. what's the cause? -- Kind Regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen Chris Wagner KF6VCI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
