Re: [Elecraft] Feature Request: SPLIT on different bands

2016-01-16 Thread Oliver Dröse

Olli,

this is more confusion to "the normal guy" than just pressing A/B once, 
do the QSO, and get back with another A/B button press. I do it all the 
time when SO2V'ing on different bands, works like a charme. We should 
take care not to over complicate things on an already very feature rich 
radio Joe Average already has trouble with at times.


73 from another Olli - DH8BQA

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Am 16.01.2016 um 13:51 schrieb Oliver Großmann:

Hi elecraft team, hi list,

I'm thinking again on improvements for SO2V operation using a K3 with 
sub RX.
In my opinion operating will be much smoother if TX on 2nd VFO is 
possible.


I do know it is technical not possible to transmit on the frequency of 
the sub RX if it is on a different band. Due to the fact the sub RX is 
as powerful as the main RX I do have an idea.


If split is disabled and both VFOs are on different band (normal 
operation) VFOA frequency, mode, filter bw etc. are shown as usual.
If the operator enables split on different bands, swap RF paths like 
pushing the A/B button but dont swap the displayed information on the 
LCD, CAT information and left/right audio and enable the split icon on 
the LCD.
Of course this aren't all points which need to be considered and with 
PC control it is possible to operate like this, but it would be much 
more robust against operator errors if radio and software setting are 
consistent.


Please give a short feedback if you are with my wish or if it is 
against any operating strategy of elecraft.


Thanks Olli,
DH2WQ














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Re: [Elecraft] Feature Request: SPLIT on different bands

2016-01-16 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
 Yes, please be careful about feature upon feature making the menus a
nightmare.   Thank God for a good manual and KE7X books to further keep us
straight.  This is not really a radio one can operate without manuals.
Think of a ham who only has French and thankfully the K3 in not made in
Normandy or I would be in trouble.  The Orion II for a while had a bad
reputation because of what some found overly complicated menus.   The K3 has
a mass market in ham radio terms and this market helps to keep our favourite
radio company producing the best.

73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: 16 January 2016 14:18
To: Oliver Großmann; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Feature Request: SPLIT on different bands

Olli,

I think something like that would add confusion to the user interface.
In other words, you have a unique situation that is only applicable if 
split is on a different band, but the display will not reflect the 
status of the normal RX and TX parameters when in split.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/16/2016 7:51 AM, Oliver Großmann wrote:
> Hi elecraft team, hi list,
>
> I'm thinking again on improvements for SO2V operation using a K3 with 
> sub RX.
> In my opinion operating will be much smoother if TX on 2nd VFO is 
> possible.
>
> I do know it is technical not possible to transmit on the frequency of 
> the sub RX if it is on a different band. Due to the fact the sub RX is 
> as powerful as the main RX I do have an idea.
>
> If split is disabled and both VFOs are on different band (normal 
> operation) VFOA frequency, mode, filter bw etc. are shown as usual.
> If the operator enables split on different bands, swap RF paths like 
> pushing the A/B button but dont swap the displayed information on the 
> LCD, CAT information and left/right audio and enable the split icon on 
> the LCD.
> Of course this aren't all points which need to be considered and with 
> PC control it is possible to operate like this, but it would be much 
> more robust against operator errors if radio and software setting are 
> consistent.
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Feature Request: SPLIT on different bands

2016-01-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Olli,

I think something like that would add confusion to the user interface.
In other words, you have a unique situation that is only applicable if 
split is on a different band, but the display will not reflect the 
status of the normal RX and TX parameters when in split.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/16/2016 7:51 AM, Oliver Großmann wrote:

Hi elecraft team, hi list,

I'm thinking again on improvements for SO2V operation using a K3 with 
sub RX.
In my opinion operating will be much smoother if TX on 2nd VFO is 
possible.


I do know it is technical not possible to transmit on the frequency of 
the sub RX if it is on a different band. Due to the fact the sub RX is 
as powerful as the main RX I do have an idea.


If split is disabled and both VFOs are on different band (normal 
operation) VFOA frequency, mode, filter bw etc. are shown as usual.
If the operator enables split on different bands, swap RF paths like 
pushing the A/B button but dont swap the displayed information on the 
LCD, CAT information and left/right audio and enable the split icon on 
the LCD.
Of course this aren't all points which need to be considered and with 
PC control it is possible to operate like this, but it would be much 
more robust against operator errors if radio and software setting are 
consistent.




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[Elecraft] Feature Request: SPLIT on different bands

2016-01-16 Thread Oliver Großmann

Hi elecraft team, hi list,

I'm thinking again on improvements for SO2V operation using a K3 with 
sub RX.

In my opinion operating will be much smoother if TX on 2nd VFO is possible.

I do know it is technical not possible to transmit on the frequency of 
the sub RX if it is on a different band. Due to the fact the sub RX is 
as powerful as the main RX I do have an idea.


If split is disabled and both VFOs are on different band (normal 
operation) VFOA frequency, mode, filter bw etc. are shown as usual.
If the operator enables split on different bands, swap RF paths like 
pushing the A/B button but dont swap the displayed information on the 
LCD, CAT information and left/right audio and enable the split icon on 
the LCD.
Of course this aren't all points which need to be considered and with PC 
control it is possible to operate like this, but it would be much more 
robust against operator errors if radio and software setting are consistent.


Please give a short feedback if you are with my wish or if it is against 
any operating strategy of elecraft.


Thanks Olli,
DH2WQ














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