Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Updates

2019-06-25 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bernie - and all,

I would suggest that you download and install the latest K3 Utility, 
then connect with your K3S and "Copy Files from Elecraft".


After that, look in the K3 Utility Help file for the Firmware Release Notes.

You will find information on the firmware updates between what you are 
now using and the latest.  If any are of interest to you, then update 
your K3S to the latest.  Simply click "Send All Firmware to the K3" and 
wait for it to complete (do not interrupt the process). It will take 
only 3 to 5 minutes.


I would encourage you to update the firmware as it is available.  It is 
much different than Windows Updates, and much less disruptive.  You have 
to initiate the update rather than having Microsoft, etc. deciding it 
"is good for you" and automatically installing.


In most all cases, the firmware updates are painless and take nothing 
away from your prior operation, but only add new features that may 
enhance your operating experience.


Should the very worst happen and your computer has a glitch during the 
update process, recovery is easy.  Just follow the instructions in the 
K3 Utility Help File for "Force a Firmware Download", and all will be 
well after that.
That problem rarely happens - computer power glitch, user interruption 
and other similar situations.  If it should occur for you, recovery is 
easy - just follow the directions.  I have only encountered it once in 
the 10 years I have had my K3 when I did "fumble fingers" to interrupt 
the total download.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 6/25/2019 7:51 PM, Bernie and Cheryl wrote:
I got my K3s (#10323) back in October, 2015, and got my KPA 500 (#2664) 
a few months later (I have the full K line including the KAT 500).


When I built them, I promptly updated the firmware, and haven't done it 
since.  I checked and my K3s has Firmware Version 5.35 and the KPA 500 
has Version 1.38.


Am I missing anything by not having updated?  I haven't done it because 
I am maddened by the constant crazy updates forced on us by Microsoft, 
Firefox, etc. (when I turn on my computer, I want to USE it - when I 
turn it off, I want it to shut off, rather than update for another 10-15 
minutes), and just hate updates in principal.  However, I noticed that 
the interface between the K3s and my Ham Radio Deluxe software is 
getting a little glitchy (sometimes, the software insists the radio 
isn't there, even though I've checked the cable), and I wonder if that 
is a function of needing to update things (and yes, I should probably 
update the Ham Radio Deluxe software).  This glitchyness is the only 
problem I experience, and otherwise, my setup works great.



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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Updates

2019-06-25 Thread Josh Fiden
I tend to go a couple+ years  between updating my K3 P3 KPA. Unlike MS, 
updating has never broken anything. I would do it without hesitation. And of 
course backup first. But I’ve never needed a backup. 

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Jun 25, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Bernie and Cheryl  wrote:
> 
> I got my K3s (#10323) back in October, 2015, and got my KPA 500 (#2664) a few 
> months later (I have the full K line including the KAT 500).
> 
> When I built them, I promptly updated the firmware, and haven't done it 
> since.  I checked and my K3s has Firmware Version 5.35 and the KPA 500 has 
> Version 1.38.
> 
> Am I missing anything by not having updated?  I haven't done it because I am 
> maddened by the constant crazy updates forced on us by Microsoft, Firefox, 
> etc. (when I turn on my computer, I want to USE it - when I turn it off, I 
> want it to shut off, rather than update for another 10-15 minutes), and just 
> hate updates in principal.  However, I noticed that the interface between the 
> K3s and my Ham Radio Deluxe software is getting a little glitchy (sometimes, 
> the software insists the radio isn't there, even though I've checked the 
> cable), and I wonder if that is a function of needing to update things (and 
> yes, I should probably update the Ham Radio Deluxe software).  This 
> glitchyness is the only problem I experience, and otherwise, my setup works 
> great.
> 
> Thoughts?  What am I missing?
> 
> 73 de Bernie, KF0QS
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware Updates

2019-06-25 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
If you run the K3 Utility and the KPA500 Utility, download the latest 
from Elecraft and install same.  Also while you have those utilities up 
and running, do a back-up of each.  The current version for the 
KPA500 is 1.54 and for the K3S is 5.67 for the MCU.   I'd say both of 
your items are needing updated.


I get about 1 update per week from Microsoft and I have that installed 
at my choice...when I'm asleep.   Although I don't use it,  I'd also 
say that HRD is likely in need of updating as well.  I try to keep all 
of my software and systems updated. Things run much smoother in that regard.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/25/2019 6:51 PM, Bernie and Cheryl wrote:
I got my K3s (#10323) back in October, 2015, and got my KPA 500 
(#2664) a few months later (I have the full K line including the KAT 
500).


When I built them, I promptly updated the firmware, and haven't done 
it since.  I checked and my K3s has Firmware Version 5.35 and the KPA 
500 has Version 1.38.


Am I missing anything by not having updated?  I haven't done it 
because I am maddened by the constant crazy updates forced on us by 
Microsoft, Firefox, etc. (when I turn on my computer, I want to USE it 
- when I turn it off, I want it to shut off, rather than update for 
another 10-15 minutes), and just hate updates in principal.  However, 
I noticed that the interface between the K3s and my Ham Radio Deluxe 
software is getting a little glitchy (sometimes, the software insists 
the radio isn't there, even though I've checked the cable), and I 
wonder if that is a function of needing to update things (and yes, I 
should probably update the Ham Radio Deluxe software).  This 
glitchyness is the only problem I experience, and otherwise, my setup 
works great.


Thoughts?  What am I missing?

73 de Bernie, KF0QS

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[Elecraft] Firmware Updates

2019-06-25 Thread Bernie and Cheryl
I got my K3s (#10323) back in October, 2015, and got my KPA 500 (#2664) 
a few months later (I have the full K line including the KAT 500).


When I built them, I promptly updated the firmware, and haven't done it 
since.  I checked and my K3s has Firmware Version 5.35 and the KPA 500 
has Version 1.38.


Am I missing anything by not having updated?  I haven't done it because 
I am maddened by the constant crazy updates forced on us by Microsoft, 
Firefox, etc. (when I turn on my computer, I want to USE it - when I 
turn it off, I want it to shut off, rather than update for another 10-15 
minutes), and just hate updates in principal.  However, I noticed that 
the interface between the K3s and my Ham Radio Deluxe software is 
getting a little glitchy (sometimes, the software insists the radio 
isn't there, even though I've checked the cable), and I wonder if that 
is a function of needing to update things (and yes, I should probably 
update the Ham Radio Deluxe software).  This glitchyness is the only 
problem I experience, and otherwise, my setup works great.


Thoughts?  What am I missing?

73 de Bernie, KF0QS

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates

2014-03-31 Thread Phil Wheeler
Consider making your Mac dual boot, Ray -- if it 
will support the newer OS. 10.5.8 is ancient (I 
reckon you need Rosetta for the old apps) and many 
applications no longer support it.


73, Phil W7OX

On 3/31/14, 4:31 PM, Ray Sills wrote:
I've seen the occasional mention by someone who, 
when trying to update firmware, comes up with an 
error.. e.g. there recent "I've bricked my K3" 
posting.  And part of the advice to remedy that 
is to make sure that you have the latest version 
of the Utility.


Well, just for fun, I downloaded the latest 
version of the KX3 Utility,  HOWEVER it does 
not run on my computer.  Apparently, my OS is 
"too old" to run the Utility.   Now, I 
understand that there are reasons to update the 
utility, because it may have more tasks to perform.
But, it seems odd to me that I'd need a newer OS 
to run that application.  After all, the job of 
the Utility it to locate, either on the web, or 
on a local drive, the files that it needs to 
send them to the rig.  I can't believe that 
there needs to be some extra OS feature for 
simple serial communication from one device to 
another.


So, I would like to request that the software 
gurus at Elecraft make a special effort to make 
the Utilities "backwards" compatible with as 
many variants of an OS as possible.  In my case, 
I use the Mac version of the KX3 Utility, and my 
OS is 10.5.8.  I can't believe that there is 
some critical component that is not in my OS, 
that -is- in the next revision.  It may be that 
in authoring the latest Utility, it was simply 
compiled by a machine running a later OS, and 
therefore the generated code was "stamped" with 
the requirement to have that OS to run.


This is important to me, because I do not want 
to "upgrade" my OS (even to the new "free" 
Mavericks) because to do so will cost me a 
number of applications which will no longer run 
on my particular machine.  There's nothing wrong 
with my KX3, but it would be nice to be able to 
update the firmware, perhaps adding a feature 
I'd like to have.  But, I can't do that now.  
I'll be "stuck" with older firmware.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


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[Elecraft] Firmware updates

2014-03-31 Thread Ray Sills
I've seen the occasional mention by someone who, when trying to update  
firmware, comes up with an error.. e.g. there recent "I've bricked my  
K3" posting.  And part of the advice to remedy that is to make sure  
that you have the latest version of the Utility.


Well, just for fun, I downloaded the latest version of the KX3  
Utility,  HOWEVER it does not run on my computer.  Apparently, my  
OS is "too old" to run the Utility.   Now, I understand that there are  
reasons to update the utility, because it may have more tasks to  
perform.
But, it seems odd to me that I'd need a newer OS to run that  
application.  After all, the job of the Utility it to locate, either  
on the web, or on a local drive, the files that it needs to send them  
to the rig.  I can't believe that there needs to be some extra OS  
feature for simple serial communication from one device to another.


So, I would like to request that the software gurus at Elecraft make a  
special effort to make the Utilities "backwards" compatible with as  
many variants of an OS as possible.  In my case, I use the Mac version  
of the KX3 Utility, and my OS is 10.5.8.  I can't believe that there  
is some critical component that is not in my OS, that -is- in the next  
revision.  It may be that in authoring the latest Utility, it was  
simply compiled by a machine running a later OS, and therefore the  
generated code was "stamped" with the requirement to have that OS to  
run.


This is important to me, because I do not want to "upgrade" my OS  
(even to the new "free" Mavericks) because to do so will cost me a  
number of applications which will no longer run on my particular  
machine.  There's nothing wrong with my KX3, but it would be nice to  
be able to update the firmware, perhaps adding a feature I'd like to  
have.  But, I can't do that now.  I'll be "stuck" with older firmware.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211




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[Elecraft] FIRMWARE UPDATES AND CHANGED CONFIG VALUES

2009-11-25 Thread K9ZTV
Every once in a while firmware updates do result in changed CONFIG 
values.  I suspect this results from user customized settings being 
changed back to default values as a result of new coding affecting 
specific functions.

After every update I run through the CONFIG bank to see which values, if 
any, I need to change back to my customized settings.  Rarely do they 
change, and checking them usually takes all of two minutes.

Saving the settings in the Utility would do it even quicker, but I enjoy 
knob twiddling more than key punching.  I also trust my ability to knob 
twist more than I do my ability to handle the Utility.

In any event, not a few postings could be avoided by checking and 
restoring your CONFIG values first before turning to the reflector.

Furthermore, printing out a running copy of the /K3 Firmware Release 
Notes/ and keeping them in a 3-hole binder is a quick and easy way to 
find out how to /restore /CONFIG values you have previously changed.  
These /Notes/ are always more current than the /K3 Owner's Manual/.  
Plus . . . (perhaps the most important of all) . . . referring to the 
/Notes/ on a regular basis updates the brain on all the enhancements 
which have accrued (and will continue to accrue) to the K3.

73,

Kent  K9ZTV



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> I believe that up until my last (the latest) firmware update my K3 had the
> ability to send CW whilst listening in SSB mode. However I have lost that
> ability and cannot find any menu or config setting which appears to relate
> to that function.
>
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RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates

2008-11-08 Thread Dick Dievendorff
That's not my experience. Just yesterday I unzipped a the current beta
version into a folder named "K3FW2R63" that was a subfolder of "My
Documents".   I used the K3 Utility Firmware page "Browse" button to
navigate to that folder and I loaded the K3 directly from that folder.

 

To download non-beta firmware into a folder of your choice, first create a
folder (perhaps using the Windows Explorer).  Then navigate to that folder
with the K3 Utility's Firmware Page "browse" function or type in the
location of the folder.   Check the "copy files from Elecraft" check box and
click "Check Versions Now". The K3 Utility should copy all the files into
that folder, whether it's the default folder or not.

 

The K3 Utility doesn't create  a folder for you. If you type in the name of
a folder that doesn't exist, you'll get file write errors during the "copy
files" phase.  

 

Dick, K6KR

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Robertson
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 6:45 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware updates

 

I have downloaded many firmware files from Elecraft and found that
downloading the beta files can be downloaded to any folder you desire using
Windows Internet explorer. The non-beta firmware can only be downloaded in
to the defult folder of the Elecraft installer program then later moved into
the desired folder. You don't use the FTP site for non-beta firmware.

 

Installing both beta and non-beta firmware from my own folder is successful.

 

73

Dave KD1NA

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[Elecraft] Firmware updates

2008-11-08 Thread David Robertson
I have downloaded many firmware files from Elecraft and found that downloading 
the beta files can be downloaded to any folder you desire using Windows 
Internet explorer. The non-beta firmware can only be downloaded in to the 
defult folder of the Elecraft installer program then later moved into the 
desired folder. You don't use the FTP site for non-beta firmware.

Installing both beta and non-beta firmware from my own folder is successful.

73
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread hank k8dd

Toby Deinhardt wrote:

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band 
limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and 
require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North 
American allocations.


vy 73 de toby


What happens if I take my K2/100 or my IC-746 to another country with TX 
band limits which are not the same as the North American allocations 
(which differ from country to country within North America)?
What countries would not allow those radios to come in to the country 
with me?

Will they not let me operate?

I have not run into this restriction in about 15 or so countries so 
far.  I just want to know where I don't want to go to visit and operate.


73HankK8DD


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RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I don't know Thai law at all, but if it's that easy to change the band
limits, would the Thai authorities consider the radio to have band limits at
all? 

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 9:12 AM
To: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In some countries yes.
>
> If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard"
> band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.
>

Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the
firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just
program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them
again.

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Now that sounds like a VERy good idea, then those that want limits can have
them, and those that don, er, don't


On 1/12/07 17:11, "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In some countries yes.
>> 
>> If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard"
>> band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.
>> 
> 
> Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the
> firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just
> program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them
> again.

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faster than you think.
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Dec 1, 2007 1:48 PM, Toby Deinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In some countries yes.
>
> If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard"
> band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.
>

Couldn't the band limits be user programmable, a function of the
firmware utility? Then when you are off to Thailand you can just
program in their limits, and when you come back you can remove them
again.

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Joe, aa4nn

>Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you could 
>argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.
>

As pretty and sophisticated as the K3 is...I rather doubt
the slickest car salesman could convince an authority that
the radio was a home built one.
de Joe, aa4nn


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RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Simon Lewis
Actually I was thinking more of HF band limits between EU and NA

Maybe its not really a worry





Simon Lewis 
GM4PLM/DL4PLM
http://www.dl4plm.net


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands


In some countries yes.

If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" 
band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.

vy 73 de toby
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KBG Luxford wrote:
> Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you 
> could
> argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.
> 
> Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the
> attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you 
> will experience sanctions."
> 
> 73
> Kevin
> VK3DAP / ZL2DAP
> 
> Toby Deinhardt wrote:
>>  > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory 
>> delivery  > the firmware label on the board says US band limits
>>
>> I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:
>>
>> What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band
>> limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and 
>> require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North 
>> American allocations.
>>
>>
>> vy 73 de toby
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Toby Deinhardt

In some countries yes.

If I remember correctly places like Malta and Thailand require "hard" 
band limits in the hardware (firmware), and they check for them too.


vy 73 de toby
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KBG Luxford wrote:
Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you could 
argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.


Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the 
attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you 
will experience sanctions."


73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

Toby Deinhardt wrote:

 > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery
 > the firmware label on the board says US band limits

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band 
limits are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and 
require built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North 
American allocations.



vy 73 de toby




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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread KBG Luxford
Does that requirement exist for home built equipment?  Surely you could 
argue that the K3 is something you built yourself.


Except for the Foundation level, the authorities seem to take the 
attitude, "We publish the band limits, you stick within them, or you 
will experience sanctions."


73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

Toby Deinhardt wrote:

 > Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery
 > the firmware label on the board says US band limits

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits 
are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require 
built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American 
allocations.



vy 73 de toby

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Toby Deinhardt

> Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery
> the firmware label on the board says US band limits

I've asked about this too a couple times, but never saw an answer:

What if I take my K3 on an expedition to place where the US band limits 
are not restrictive enough. Some countries are very strict and require 
built in TX band limits, which are not the same as the North American 
allocations.



vy 73 de toby
--
DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz)
K2/10  #885
K2/100 #3248
K3/100 #67
DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG, JN58td
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[Elecraft] Firmware updates for EU bands

2007-12-01 Thread Simon Lewis
Although I have the latest firmwares installed from factory delivery the
firmware label on the board says US band limits

Is there available EU firmware to install EU limits???

Or did I miss something on the firmware pages

Rgds

Simon 


Simon Lewis 
GM4PLM/DL4PLM
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