[Elecraft] HI CUR and 160 Meters

2006-11-22 Thread John Huffman
While waiting for parts to fix my KPA100 and KAT100, I was checking out 
my K160RX.


The situation is that at 12W out the K2 (KSB2, KNB2, KDSP2, K106RX, 
KIO2) draws 2.5 amps.  With power set at anything above that, it exceeds 
4.5 amps and I get a Hi CUR warning (limit set at 4.5 amps).


Current is a bit higher than expected on 80 meters at 3.2 amps max 
output.  Other bands 2.9 - 2.9 amps.


I wonder what would cause the jump?

73 de K1ESE
John
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Re: [Elecraft] HI CUR and 160 Meters

2006-11-22 Thread Fred Jensen

John Huffman wrote:
The situation is that at 12W out the K2 (KSB2, KNB2, KDSP2, K106RX, 
KIO2) draws 2.5 amps.  With power set at anything above that, it exceeds 
4.5 amps and I get a Hi CUR warning (limit set at 4.5 amps).


Parasitic?  I had that problem on 40m with the KPA100 and KAT100.  Ran 
OK at lower power (~15W - 25W) but went berserk at higher power.  It 
even blew the 12V DC line fuse once.  Gary fixed it but I'm not sure 
what he did.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw
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Re: [Elecraft] HI CUR and 160 Meters

2006-11-22 Thread Petr Ouředník

Hi,

I have the same pb on 160m only. Below 6W out is OK, but when trying higher 
power than 6W then ramp up the current and HiCur warning comes althought the 
SWR indicated after tunning by ATU is 1.2...K2 not K2/100.
73, Petr OK1RP


  Původní zpráva 
 Od: Fred Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Předmět: Re: [Elecraft] HI CUR and 160 Meters
 Datum: 22.11.2006 23:55:53
 
 John Huffman wrote:
 > The situation is that at 12W out the K2 (KSB2, KNB2, KDSP2, K106RX, 
 > KIO2) draws 2.5 amps.  With power set at anything above that, it exceeds 
 > 4.5 amps and I get a Hi CUR warning (limit set at 4.5 amps).
 
 Parasitic?  I had that problem on 40m with the KPA100 and KAT100.  Ran 
 OK at lower power (~15W - 25W) but went berserk at higher power.  It 
 even blew the 12V DC line fuse once.  Gary fixed it but I'm not sure 
 what he did.
 
 Fred K6DGW

 Auburn CA CM98lw
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Re: [Elecraft] HI CUR and 160 Meters

2006-11-22 Thread Tom Hammond

Different problem when he doesn't have a KPA100 though.

Tom

At 04:53 PM 11/22/2006, Fred Jensen wrote:

John Huffman wrote:
The situation is that at 12W out the K2 (KSB2, KNB2, KDSP2, K106RX, 
KIO2) draws 2.5 amps.  With power set at anything above that, it 
exceeds 4.5 amps and I get a Hi CUR warning (limit set at 4.5 amps).


Parasitic?  I had that problem on 40m with the KPA100 and 
KAT100.  Ran OK at lower power (~15W - 25W) but went berserk at 
higher power.  It even blew the 12V DC line fuse once.  Gary fixed 
it but I'm not sure what he did.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw
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RE: [Elecraft] HI CUR and 160 Meters

2006-11-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
John,

How much power is actually being produced?  What does the K2 meter indicate
in TUNE?
What is your power supply voltage under this 4.5 amp load?  If the voltage
drops significantly, the current will go up - the K2 tries to provide the
requested power out, and if the voltage drops, the current must increase.

If you can eliminate power supply voltage drop problems, then you could have
some sort of oscillation present.  The K2 is quite stable if all the
components are correct.  You could start by checking T1, T2 and T4
(especially T4).  The only other thing that I can think of right now are the
components in the base circuit of Q7 and Q8, but I cannot relate to a jump
in current draw if those components were at fault.

Check th evoltage on the base of Q7 and Q8 when transmitting - it should be
0.6 volts or very close.

73,
Don W3FPR

> -Original Message-
>
> While waiting for parts to fix my KPA100 and KAT100, I was checking out
> my K160RX.
>
> The situation is that at 12W out the K2 (KSB2, KNB2, KDSP2, K106RX,
> KIO2) draws 2.5 amps.  With power set at anything above that, it exceeds
> 4.5 amps and I get a Hi CUR warning (limit set at 4.5 amps).
>
> Current is a bit higher than expected on 80 meters at 3.2 amps max
> output.  Other bands 2.9 - 2.9 amps.
>
> I wonder what would cause the jump?
>
> 73 de K1ESE
> John
>

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Re: [Elecraft] HI CUR and 160 Meters

2006-11-22 Thread John Huffman

Don -

Yup, looks like a power supply issue.

K2 MeterV  I
Receive   13.7   0.34
12 watts  12.6   2.78
13 watts  11.8   4.38
14+ watts 11.3   5.10

Making up a heftier cord to the power supply should do the trick.

Many thanks!

73 de K1ESE
John


Don Wilhelm wrote:

John,

How much power is actually being produced?  What does the K2 meter indicate
in TUNE?
What is your power supply voltage under this 4.5 amp load?  If the voltage
drops significantly, the current will go up - the K2 tries to provide the
requested power out, and if the voltage drops, the current must increase.

If you can eliminate power supply voltage drop problems, then you could have
some sort of oscillation present.  The K2 is quite stable if all the
components are correct.  You could start by checking T1, T2 and T4
(especially T4).  The only other thing that I can think of right now are the
components in the base circuit of Q7 and Q8, but I cannot relate to a jump
in current draw if those components were at fault.

Check th evoltage on the base of Q7 and Q8 when transmitting - it should be
0.6 volts or very close.

73,
Don W3FPR


-Original Message-

While waiting for parts to fix my KPA100 and KAT100, I was checking out
my K160RX.

The situation is that at 12W out the K2 (KSB2, KNB2, KDSP2, K106RX,
KIO2) draws 2.5 amps.  With power set at anything above that, it exceeds
4.5 amps and I get a Hi CUR warning (limit set at 4.5 amps).

Current is a bit higher than expected on 80 meters at 3.2 amps max
output.  Other bands 2.9 - 2.9 amps.

I wonder what would cause the jump?

73 de K1ESE
John





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