Re: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question

2006-12-03 Thread Paul Picking
You could put a switch across the diodes so that you can shunt around them when 
the battery voltage reaches a safer level.

Paul WD8OJL



Roger said:

"You can connect diodes in series with the power input. The voltage drop 
will e the junction voltage plus the the IR drop due to the current. You 
can find out the total drop by measuring the current drain and going to 
the spec sheet on the diode used. The spec sheets can be found by doing 
a Google search on the part number of the diode used.

Roger K7RXV"
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question

2006-12-02 Thread Roger Steyaert, K7RXV
You also have to consider the power dissipation of the regulators. This 
will vary with the heat sink if any o each of them.


You can connect diodes in series with the power input. The voltage drop 
will e the junction voltage plus the the IR drop due to the current. You 
can find out the total drop by measuring the current drain and going to 
the spec sheet on the diode used. The spec sheets can be found by doing 
a Google search on the part number of the diode used.


Roger K7RXV


Larry wrote:




What would happen if you connected the K1 up to say 16 vdc?


As far as I can tell it would work just fine.

I went through the  schematics and found all of the components (I hope) 
that use the unregulated input voltage and researched them on the net. 
The results are:


PartDescription   Max Input Voltage
ZR78L06   6v regulator   20vdc
LM29308v regulator   26vdc
LM380  Audio Amp   22vdc
LT1252 Audio Amp28vdc

I looks like the 6v regulator is the limiting component at 20vdc max input.

73
Larry
kb5dxy
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question

2006-12-02 Thread David Toepfer
I think he meant simple diodes rated to handle the power you will use.  Each
biode should have a voltage drop of 0.6V, so 2 would total 1.2V drop and I
believe that would be current independent.  Placed in series the battery shuld
just see it as part of the load and not be concerned.

David, k3tue
.

--- Ron Polityka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Don,
> 
>  The Li-Poly battery I have when fully charged is 16.63 VDC.
> 
> It will discharge as I am using it. I tried a 13.0 VDC zener diode but with 
> the protective circuitry on the battery it will shut down the battery.
> 
> I am going to experiment with a resistor in line to lower the voltage.
> 
> 72 and Thanks,
> Ron Polityka
> WB3AAL
> www.wb3aal.com
> www.n3epa.org/
> 
> K1 - SN 01011
> K2 - SN 01392
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Ron Polityka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ".Elecraft" 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:12 AM
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question
> 
> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >>
> >> What would happen if you connected the K1 up to say 16 vdc?
> >>
> > --
> > Ron,
> >
> > OK, I'll go out on a limb here and say that probably nothing would happen 
> > if
> > the K1 were accidently connected to 16 volts.  20 volts create a problem 
> > but
> > I don't believe 16 volts would matter.
> >
> > However, since the spec voltage range for the K1 is 15 volts on the high
> > end, I would not vouch for long term operation at 16 volts.  If you have a
> > power supply that is developing 16 volts, put a couple of adequately high
> > current diodes in series on the K1 power lead.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question

2006-12-02 Thread Larry




What would happen if you connected the K1 up to say 16 vdc?


As far as I can tell it would work just fine.

I went through the  schematics and found all of the components (I hope) 
that use the unregulated input voltage and researched them on the net. 
The results are:


PartDescription   Max Input Voltage
ZR78L06   6v regulator   20vdc
LM29308v regulator   26vdc
LM380  Audio Amp   22vdc
LT1252 Audio Amp28vdc

I looks like the 6v regulator is the limiting component at 20vdc max input.

73
Larry
kb5dxy
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question

2006-12-02 Thread Ron Polityka

Hi Don,

The Li-Poly battery I have when fully charged is 16.63 VDC.

It will discharge as I am using it. I tried a 13.0 VDC zener diode but with 
the protective circuitry on the battery it will shut down the battery.


I am going to experiment with a resistor in line to lower the voltage.

72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
www.wb3aal.com
www.n3epa.org/

K1 - SN 01011
K2 - SN 01392


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From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ron Polityka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ".Elecraft" 


Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question



-Original Message-

What would happen if you connected the K1 up to say 16 vdc?


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Ron,

OK, I'll go out on a limb here and say that probably nothing would happen 
if
the K1 were accidently connected to 16 volts.  20 volts create a problem 
but

I don't believe 16 volts would matter.

However, since the spec voltage range for the K1 is 15 volts on the high
end, I would not vouch for long term operation at 16 volts.  If you have a
power supply that is developing 16 volts, put a couple of adequately high
current diodes in series on the K1 power lead.

73,
Don W3FPR


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RE: [Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question

2006-12-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
> -Original Message-
>
> What would happen if you connected the K1 up to say 16 vdc?
>
--
Ron,

OK, I'll go out on a limb here and say that probably nothing would happen if
the K1 were accidently connected to 16 volts.  20 volts create a problem but
I don't believe 16 volts would matter.

However, since the spec voltage range for the K1 is 15 volts on the high
end, I would not vouch for long term operation at 16 volts.  If you have a
power supply that is developing 16 volts, put a couple of adequately high
current diodes in series on the K1 power lead.

73,
Don W3FPR


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[Elecraft] K1 Dumb Question

2006-12-02 Thread Ron Polityka

Hello,

I have a dumb question and wonder if this might have happen to anyone.

What would happen if you connected the K1 up to say 16 vdc?

72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
www.wb3aal.com
www.n3epa.org/

K1 - SN 01011
K2 - SN 01392


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