Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-28 Thread w4sec
It is also pending the release  of a newer faster surface mount version of the 
Signetics Write-Only memory ICs (WOMs)- 
Here is a link to the data sheet pdf-
http://www.national.com/rap/files/datasheet.pdf
-Pete


Jack Smith
Wed, 27 May 2009 15:48:04 -0700

Lyle:

Does this mean I no longer need the Dewar of liquid helium for cooling?

Jack K8ZOA


Lyle Johnson wrote:
 ...10 watt and 1200 watt K3s have a different rear panel plate.
 

 The 1200 watt hasn't been released yet.  We'll be using a single surface 
 mount 2N3906 PNP transistor in a Class I amplifier that will allow the 
 K3 to run on a single AA cell for up to 10 days, as long as the transmit 
 duty cycle significantly exceeds 101%.  Any less and the battery quickly 
 goes flat and the transistor lets its smoke out, which is a one time event.

 In the meantime, please use our 100 watt version with its corresponding 
 fan panel for your KPA3-equipped K3 and the K144XV.

 73,


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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-28 Thread Grant Youngman
It was humorous until I got to the characteristic curve of pins  
remaining vs. insertions.  Then it turned into a belly laugh ..  :-)

Grant/NQ5T

On May 28, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Jack Smith wrote:

 I have a printed copy of the WOM data sheet obtained from Signetics  
 many
 many years ago.

 Funny, but politically incorrect now, of course.

 Jack K8ZOA

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-28 Thread Neill Taylor
At 09:26 27/05/2009 -0700, wayne burdick wrote:
The K144XV increasing K3 band coverage to 160-2 m, which will be 
great for those with limited space or the need for 2 m for 
portable/mobile/marine operation. But it isn't for everyone, of 
course. Some 2-m ops will prefer the slightly better NF and higher 
power output of an external transverter.

I'd like to know a little more about the K144XV receive 
performance.  The Noise Figure is given as 2 dB, while the 
external XV144 has a NF typically 0.8 dB.  This seems like a 
significant difference.  The XV144 also has a high dynamic range 
front end - how does the K144XV compare?

Neill
F5VLD / G4HLX

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K3/100 #289

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-28 Thread John N1JM

This is a YMMV, but personally I don't know why one would want to put all
their eggs in one basket or all their radios in one box. I fact I would
rather have a separate 6 meter radio, which I do. Of course i could buy
another K3:-D
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Svend Spanget
OK, the new K144XV-F costs 349.95. Also needed is KXV3A_UPGR (39.95). A
total of 396.90.
This is 26.95 more than XV144 and you don't have the
inconvenience/pleasure of building it yourself. The noise figure is worse
and the output power less than the half.
Are there any benefits at all with K144XV-F (besides not having an extra
box on the desk)?

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Rajiv Dewan, N2RD
I asked this very question at Dayton.

The K144XV will cover 4Mhz of the 2m band while the XV144 only covers  
2MHz.

What I do not know is if K144XV allows 2m reception on the subreceiver.

Raj, N2RD

On May 27, 2009, at 3:55 AM, Svend Spanget wrote:

 OK, the new K144XV-F costs 349.95. Also needed is KXV3A_UPGR  
 (39.95). A
 total of 396.90.
 This is 26.95 more than XV144 and you don't have the
 inconvenience/pleasure of building it yourself. The noise figure is  
 worse
 and the output power less than the half.
 Are there any benefits at all with K144XV-F (besides not having an  
 extra
 box on the desk)?

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Lyle Johnson
 What I do not know is if K144XV allows 2m reception on the subreceiver.

Yes, it does.

 OK, the new K144XV-F costs 349.95.

That's the factory built/installed version.  The kit version 
(K144XV-K) is listed at $299.95.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread wayne burdick
Rajiv Dewan, N2RD wrote:

 What I do not know is if K144XV allows 2m reception on the subreceiver.

We have made provisions for this on an optional daughter board that 
plugs into the main K144XV module. This option board will have at least 
three features: (1) sub receiver AUX RF patch (to let the sub RX 
receive on 2 m even if the main RX is on a different band); (2) 144 MHz 
low-level I/O (for higher-band transverters); (3) a PLL to lock the 
K144XV's crystal oscillator to the K3's 49.38 MHz reference oscillator.

This option will be available somewhat later than the K144XV itself, 
and the price has not yet been set. It will be very easy to install.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread wayne burdick
Svend Spanget wrote:

 Are there any benefits at all with K144XV-F (besides not having an 
 extra box on the desk)?

- coverage of entire 2-m band (144-148 MHz, U.S.)

- diode-switched T/R (no relays)

- full integration with K3 (including power-out bar graph, status 
monitoring, etc.)

- future option module provides phase locking of crystal osc. to
   K3's internal reference; sub-receiver access to 2 m; 144-MHz 
low-level I/O

- simplified station wiring (RF, DC, control)

The K144XV increasing K3 band coverage to 160-2 m, which will be great 
for those with limited space or the need for 2 m for 
portable/mobile/marine operation. But it isn't for everyone, of course. 
Some 2-m ops will prefer the slightly better NF and higher power output 
of an external transverter.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread John Frerichs

The order form states for the K144XV-K:  IMPORTANT: Check one: __ For a K3/10  
 __ For a K3/100

1. If I order the K144XV-K for the K3/10 and later upgrade to the K3/100 (by 
installing KPA3), what will this affect?  Nothing seems to be mentioned on the 
order form nor the Press Release PDF as to *why* it's important.

2. I'm glad I didn't yet purchase the old KXV3 interface before the KXV3A was 
released for the K144XV-K option.  I may have just saved myself $30, plus the 
cost of shipping the KXV3 back to Elecraft.  Timing is everything!

Thanks,

John
N6VCW
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML


John Frerichs wrote:
 The order form states for the K144XV-K:  IMPORTANT: Check one: __ For a 
 K3/10   __ For a K3/100
 
 1. If I order the K144XV-K for the K3/10 and later upgrade to the K3/100 (by 
 installing KPA3), what will this affect?  Nothing seems to be mentioned on 
 the order form nor the Press Release PDF as to *why* it's important.

I was mentioned in Eric's announcement yesterday - the antenna jack for
the K144XV is mounted on a replacement rear panel - if you have the
KPA3, you get a new fan panel. If not, you get a new blank panel.

I wonder if new KPA3's will be shipping with the new-style fan-panel
by default. I'm sure you could at least request the right panel if/when
you order the KPA3.

 ~Iain / N6ML

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Lyle Johnson
 The order form states for the K144XV-K:  IMPORTANT: Check one: __ For a 
 K3/10   __ For a K3/100
 Nothing seems to be mentioned on the order form nor the Press Release PDF as 
 to *why* it's important.

The K144XV adds a BNC connector for the 2 meter antenna.  10 watt and 
1200 watt K3s have a different rear panel plate.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Dave Reed
Can I get one of these 1200 watt K3s???   ;-)



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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:48 PM
To: John Frerichs
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

The K144XV adds a BNC connector for the 2 meter antenna.  10 watt and 
1200 watt K3s have a different rear panel plate.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread John Frerichs

Aha!  That's the missing piece of the puzzle.  Now I understand.  Thanks.

John Frerichs wrote:
 The order form states for the K144XV-K:  IMPORTANT: Check one: __ For a 
 K3/10  __ For a K3/100
 
 1. If I order the K144XV-K for the K3/10 and later upgrade to the K3/100 (by 
 installing KPA3), what will this affect?  Nothing seems to be mentioned on 
 the order form nor the Press Release PDF as to *why* it's important.

I was mentioned in Eric's announcement yesterday - the antenna jack for
the K144XV is mounted on a replacement rear panel - if you have the
KPA3, you get a new fan panel. If not, you get a new blank panel.

I wonder if new KPA3's will be shipping with the new-style fan-panel
by default. I'm sure you could at least request the right panel if/when
you order the KPA3.

    ~Iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Lyle Johnson
 ...10 watt and 1200 watt K3s have a different rear panel plate.

The 1200 watt hasn't been released yet.  We'll be using a single surface 
mount 2N3906 PNP transistor in a Class I amplifier that will allow the 
K3 to run on a single AA cell for up to 10 days, as long as the transmit 
duty cycle significantly exceeds 101%.  Any less and the battery quickly 
goes flat and the transistor lets its smoke out, which is a one time event.

In the meantime, please use our 100 watt version with its corresponding 
fan panel for your KPA3-equipped K3 and the K144XV.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-27 Thread Jack Smith
Lyle:

Does this mean I no longer need the Dewar of liquid helium for cooling?

Jack K8ZOA


Lyle Johnson wrote:
 ...10 watt and 1200 watt K3s have a different rear panel plate.
 

 The 1200 watt hasn't been released yet.  We'll be using a single surface 
 mount 2N3906 PNP transistor in a Class I amplifier that will allow the 
 K3 to run on a single AA cell for up to 10 days, as long as the transmit 
 duty cycle significantly exceeds 101%.  Any less and the battery quickly 
 goes flat and the transistor lets its smoke out, which is a one time event.

 In the meantime, please use our 100 watt version with its corresponding 
 fan panel for your KPA3-equipped K3 and the K144XV.

 73,

 Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The K144XV 2M Module for the K3 and the W2 HF and VHF/UHF Wattmeter are 
now on the Elecraft Web order form. (The first order came in less than 5 
minutes after we uploaded it. Guess they were watching!)

One note: For the K144XV, please be sure to check the box that tells us 
if you have a K3/10 or K3/100. We ship a different rear blank panel or 
fan panel depending on which it is. (The antenna connector for the 
K144XV mounts in a new replacement rear panel.)

Order form:
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm


K144XV preliminary data sheet:
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
or:
http://snipurl.com/k144xv

W2 preliminary data sheet:
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
or:
http://snipurl.com/elecraftw2


73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Also, please do not forget to select at least one directional coupler 
for the W2, which is part of the base W2 price. 

The W2 supports up to two directional couplers.

73, Eric


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 The K144XV 2M Module for the K3 and the W2 HF and VHF/UHF Wattmeter 
 are now on the Elecraft Web order form. (The first order came in less 
 than 5 minutes after we uploaded it. Guess they were watching!)

 One note: For the K144XV, please be sure to check the box that tells 
 us if you have a K3/10 or K3/100. We ship a different rear blank panel 
 or fan panel depending on which it is. (The antenna connector for the 
 K144XV mounts in a new replacement rear panel.)

 Order form:
 http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm


 K144XV preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/k144xv

 W2 preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/elecraftw2


 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
 Elecraft






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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Brett Howard
Can the K144XV be installed sans sub rx?  It kinda looks like it mounts
to the top of the sub rx.  Deeply apologize if this has already been
answered and I've missed it.

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:51 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 The K144XV 2M Module for the K3 and the W2 HF and VHF/UHF Wattmeter are 
 now on the Elecraft Web order form. (The first order came in less than 5 
 minutes after we uploaded it. Guess they were watching!)
 
 One note: For the K144XV, please be sure to check the box that tells us 
 if you have a K3/10 or K3/100. We ship a different rear blank panel or 
 fan panel depending on which it is. (The antenna connector for the 
 K144XV mounts in a new replacement rear panel.)
 
 Order form:
 http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm
 
 
 K144XV preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/k144xv
 
 W2 preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/elecraftw2
 
 
 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
 Elecraft
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Lyle Johnson
 Can the K144XV be installed sans sub rx? 

Yes.  The sub Rx is not a requirement for the K144XV, but it will take 
advantage of it if present.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes - It has its own mounting bracket to the side of the K3 and can be 
installed without or with the KRX3 sub rx. (You get a new K3 left side 
panel with the new mounting holes.) It actually sits a little above the 
sub RX and does not contact it.

The K144XV and KRX3 are totally independent mechanically.

73, Eric   WA6HHQ


Brett Howard wrote:
 Can the K144XV be installed sans sub rx?  It kinda looks like it mounts
 to the top of the sub rx.  Deeply apologize if this has already been
 answered and I've missed it.


   
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