[Elecraft] [K3] Line Out level
Is there any chance of getting the K3's line out level lowered? Even when set to it's lowest level of 1, it puts out a bit too much audio for my TASCAM US-100 external sound card. The TASCAM has an external input level control and even with it all the way down, the K3 puts out too much audio for all the sound card apps I use (Digipan, MMTTY, FLDIGI, etc). If set to zero, then there's no output at all. The output level for #1 in the menu should be about half or maybe even a quarter of what it is now. That would also allow the various Windows mixers a lot better control over the soundcard input level too. Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Line Out level
Jim, I'm not familiar w/ your Tascam, but perhaps it's setup as a mic level input (as opposed to line level)? just a thought... 73, Jeff KC9WSJ On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:50:05PM -0600, Jim Sheldon wrote: Is there any chance of getting the K3's line out level lowered? Even when set to it's lowest level of 1, it puts out a bit too much audio for my TASCAM US-100 external sound card. The TASCAM has an external input level control and even with it all the way down, the K3 puts out too much audio for all the sound card apps I use (Digipan, MMTTY, FLDIGI, etc). If set to zero, then there's no output at all. The output level for #1 in the menu should be about half or maybe even a quarter of what it is now. That would also allow the various Windows mixers a lot better control over the soundcard input level too. Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Line Out level
I usually run the line out level around 20. If you need it to be less than 1, you must be feeding a mic level input. Sounds like you need to add an attenuator, if you can't use a line-level input. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Jim Sheldon w...@cox.net wrote: Is there any chance of getting the K3's line out level lowered? Even when set to it's lowest level of 1, it puts out a bit too much audio for my TASCAM US-100 external sound card. The TASCAM has an external input level control and even with it all the way down, the K3 puts out too much audio for all the sound card apps I use (Digipan, MMTTY, FLDIGI, etc). If set to zero, then there's no output at all. The output level for #1 in the menu should be about half or maybe even a quarter of what it is now. That would also allow the various Windows mixers a lot better control over the soundcard input level too. Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Line Out level
If you aren't into making up your own, there are cables available that contain a suitable attenuator. A quick net check turned up this one: http://www.core-sound.com/attenuator-cables.html 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:57 AM To: Jim Sheldon Cc: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Line Out level I usually run the line out level around 20. If you need it to be less than 1, you must be feeding a mic level input. Sounds like you need to add an attenuator, if you can't use a line-level input. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Jim Sheldon w...@cox.net wrote: Is there any chance of getting the K3's line out level lowered? Even when set to it's lowest level of 1, it puts out a bit too much audio for my TASCAM US-100 external sound card. The TASCAM has an external input level control and even with it all the way down, the K3 puts out too much audio for all the sound card apps I use (Digipan, MMTTY, FLDIGI, etc). If set to zero, then there's no output at all. The output level for #1 in the menu should be about half or maybe even a quarter of what it is now. That would also allow the various Windows mixers a lot better control over the soundcard input level too. Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Line Out level
Radio Shack also has one. Look carefully in the stores. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/8/2013 4:32 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: If you aren't into making up your own, there are cables available that contain a suitable attenuator. A quick net check turned up this one: http://www.core-sound.com/attenuator-cables.html 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:57 AM To: Jim Sheldon Cc: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Line Out level I usually run the line out level around 20. If you need it to be less than 1, you must be feeding a mic level input. Sounds like you need to add an attenuator, if you can't use a line-level input. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Jim Sheldon w...@cox.net wrote: Is there any chance of getting the K3's line out level lowered? Even when set to it's lowest level of 1, it puts out a bit too much audio for my TASCAM US-100 external sound card. The TASCAM has an external input level control and even with it all the way down, the K3 puts out too much audio for all the sound card apps I use (Digipan, MMTTY, FLDIGI, etc). If set to zero, then there's no output at all. The output level for #1 in the menu should be about half or maybe even a quarter of what it is now. That would also allow the various Windows mixers a lot better control over the soundcard input level too. Jim - W0EB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Line Out level
Greetings to the group! Quick question: I normally keep the line out set to 5 or 10; I haven't seen the need until now to increase it. I recently discovered a recording utility built in to HRD, and leaving the line out level at 5 or 10 usually results in a low-volume recording. I've fiddled around with the setting and have found that a line output level of 50 is pretty good. However, I just want to make sure that doing so is safe for the K3. I've monitored the audio from the PC, and I haven't noticed any sort of overdrive condition. On the other hand, the manual states that setting the line out to anything above 10 may cause saturation of the KIO3's isolation transformers. Thoughts? Vy 73 and a Happy New Year to all! James K2QI -- 73 de James K2QI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Line Out level
James, You will not hurt the K3, but if the transformers saturate, you will get distortion. As long as the level of distortion is OK to your ears, I would judge everything to be OK. 73, Don W3FPR James Sarte wrote: Greetings to the group! Quick question: I normally keep the line out set to 5 or 10; I haven't seen the need until now to increase it. I recently discovered a recording utility built in to HRD, and leaving the line out level at 5 or 10 usually results in a low-volume recording. I've fiddled around with the setting and have found that a line output level of 50 is pretty good. However, I just want to make sure that doing so is safe for the K3. I've monitored the audio from the PC, and I haven't noticed any sort of overdrive condition. On the other hand, the manual states that setting the line out to anything above 10 may cause saturation of the KIO3's isolation transformers. Thoughts? Vy 73 and a Happy New Year to all! James K2QI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Line Out level
have found that a line output level of 50 is pretty good. Hi James. I use Audacity with the Lame MP3 plug-in to record beacons and intruders. With the PC sound card mic level at max, I need the K3 Line out at about 20 to get enough audio for Audacity. Can't hear any distortion but I'm not a hi-fi buff. I don't even own any oxygen-free copper mains cables! 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Line out level and Digikeyer
For digimodes like WSPR I use a Microham Digikeyer and set the K3 Line Out level to 10, which is the maximum recommended before the possibility of distortion is introduced. At this level I have to set the Digikeyer RX input control to max to obtain proper decoding etc and being at maximum leaves no room for further adjustment. I usually like to set in/out controls to around 50% but in this case it would mean setting the K3 Line Out to around 40 to be able to reduce the Digikeyer input by 50% So, is Line Out level 10 still the max before distortion/saturation of the output transformers occurs or is there any headroom. If 10 is still the number then fine, as the object is to provide the cleanest signal to the DigiKeyer soundcard even if the input does have to be set to max. 73 Trevor G0KTN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Line out level and Digikeyer
Trevor, If you have AGC enabled in the K3, the Line Out level can be increased considerably beyond 10. Although I find Line Out at 10 works very well with the DigiKeyer input level at 3:00, I have run the Line Out as high as 70 without distortion as long as the AGC is set to reasonably limit audio levels. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Smithers Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:49 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line out level and Digikeyer For digimodes like WSPR I use a Microham Digikeyer and set the K3 Line Out level to 10, which is the maximum recommended before the possibility of distortion is introduced. At this level I have to set the Digikeyer RX input control to max to obtain proper decoding etc and being at maximum leaves no room for further adjustment. I usually like to set in/out controls to around 50% but in this case it would mean setting the K3 Line Out to around 40 to be able to reduce the Digikeyer input by 50% So, is Line Out level 10 still the max before distortion/saturation of the output transformers occurs or is there any headroom. If 10 is still the number then fine, as the object is to provide the cleanest signal to the DigiKeyer soundcard even if the input does have to be set to max. 73 Trevor G0KTN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Line out level and Digikeyer
Thanks for that Joe, reassuring to know that levels higher than 10 can be accommodated without problem. as long as the AGC is set to reasonably limit audio levels. Well, I use AGC-S and have never felt the need to change any of the other agc parameters so they are all set to default values - presumably this is ok ??? Trevor G0KTN Original Message Trevor, If you have AGC enabled in the K3, the Line Out level can be increased considerably beyond 10. Although I find Line Out at 10 works very well with the DigiKeyer input level at 3:00, I have run the Line Out as high as 70 without distortion as long as the AGC is set to reasonably limit audio levels. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Smithers Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:49 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Line out level and Digikeyer For digimodes like WSPR I use a Microham Digikeyer and set the K3 Line Out level to 10, which is the maximum recommended before the possibility of distortion is introduced. At this level I have to set the Digikeyer RX input control to max to obtain proper decoding etc and being at maximum leaves no room for further adjustment. I usually like to set in/out controls to around 50% but in this case it would mean setting the K3 Line Out to around 40 to be able to reduce the Digikeyer input by 50% So, is Line Out level 10 still the max before distortion/saturation of the output transformers occurs or is there any headroom. If 10 is still the number then fine, as the object is to provide the cleanest signal to the DigiKeyer soundcard even if the input does have to be set to max. 73 Trevor G0KTN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Line out level in 'CONFIG:LIN OUT = PHONES' mode
Thanks Lyle. Looking forward to it ! -- Enno, PF5X Lyle Johnson wrote: I am experimenting with recording QSOs. If I want to record my own transmission too, I have to set CONFIG: LIN OUT =PHONES... A means to get tx audio without having to be in =PHONES is on the list. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%3A-Line-out-level-in-%27CONFIG%3ALIN-OUT-%3D-PHONES%27-mode-tp1451780p1454195.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: Line out level in 'CONFIG:LIN OUT = PHONES' mode
Hi all, I am experimenting with recording QSOs. If I want to record my own transmission too, I have to set CONFIG: LIN OUT =PHONES. This links the line out level to the AF pot meter settings. However, the level is too low for a decent recording unless I want to blow my eardrums. When in LIN OUT = NOR mode I can set the level to 15 and I get a reasonable line out level ... Any ideas or any plans to include a gain factor between AF setting and line out level when in = PHONES mode ?? -- Enno, PF5X -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3%3A-Line-out-level-in-%27CONFIG%3ALIN-OUT-%3D-PHONES%27-mode-tp1451780p1451780.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Line out level in 'CONFIG:LIN OUT = PHONES' mode
I am experimenting with recording QSOs. If I want to record my own transmission too, I have to set CONFIG: LIN OUT =PHONES... A means to get tx audio without having to be in =PHONES is on the list. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
