[Elecraft] K3 : AM synchronous detection

2008-01-12 Thread David Pratt
I wonder if there is a list available of the K3 features that are NOT 
yet activated in the current firmware.


Although I have a 6kHz filter installed, I am unable to enable 
synchronous detection in AM mode. (Owner's Manual p  I have the filter 
in slot FL2 and have it activated as 6.00 in AM mode when fully 
clockwise.  The bandwidth control only goes up to 3kHz on AM, but goes 
up to 6kHz on other modes. Is this normal or do I have something not 
configured correctly? Perhaps the 3kHz refers to the width from the 
centre carrier, hence giving a total bandwidth of 6kHz?


73
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David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 : AM synchronous detection

2008-01-12 Thread Lyle Johnson
I wonder if there is a list available of the K3 features that are NOT 
yet activated in the current firmware.


Check the errata sheet that came with the radio.  As features are added, 
they'll be listed in the firmware updates, viewable through the K3 Utility.



...I am unable to enable synchronous detection in AM mode.


Not yet available.  You can use USB or LSB and FINE tuning for the 
moment, as the K3 is very stable and most AM transmissions are as well.


...The bandwidth control only goes up to 3kHz on AM, but goes 
up to 6kHz on other modes. Is this normal...


WIDTH refers to the fianl audio bandwidth.  IF is 1:1 to the IF 
bandwidth in CW, SSB and DATA modes.  AM IF bandwidth is twice the audio 
bandwidth.  FM will have a fixed IF bandwidth, at least initially, and 
WIDTH will refer to the AF response only.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 : AM synchronous detection

2008-01-12 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
I wonder if there is a list available of the K3 features that are NOT 
yet activated in the current firmware.


Check the errata sheet that came with the radio.  As features are 
added, they'll be listed in the firmware updates, viewable through the 
K3 Utility.


Many thanks, Lyle, but no mention of any missing features in the Errata 
sheet that I got with my kit. (Rev. C-3, November 26, 2007)



...I am unable to enable synchronous detection in AM mode.


Not yet available.  You can use USB or LSB and FINE tuning for the 
moment, as the K3 is very stable and most AM transmissions are as well.


Thanks again. Yes, AM medium wave broadcast (even music) sounds good in 
USB/LSB modes.


...The bandwidth control only goes up to 3kHz on AM, but goes  up to 
6kHz on other modes. Is this normal...


WIDTH refers to the fianl audio bandwidth.  IF is 1:1 to the IF 
bandwidth in CW, SSB and DATA modes.  AM IF bandwidth is twice the 
audio bandwidth.  FM will have a fixed IF bandwidth, at least 
initially, and WIDTH will refer to the AF response only.


Excellent - that confirms #00186 is working okay.

73
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David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 : AM synchronous detection

2008-01-12 Thread Dave Martin

  ...The bandwidth control only goes up to 3kHz on AM, but goes
  up to 6kHz on other modes. Is this normal...

 WIDTH refers to the fianl audio bandwidth.  IF is 1:1 to the IF
 bandwidth in CW, SSB and DATA modes.  AM IF bandwidth is twice the audio
 bandwidth.  FM will have a fixed IF bandwidth, at least initially, and
 WIDTH will refer to the AF response only.

When I had my 746Pro I really enjoyed the 9 KHz max bandwidth for AM
broadcast when conditions allowed.  I had a hi-fi speaker I could
switch to.  I'm wondering if we'll be able to have more bandwidth on
AM when we use a 12 KHz or similar roofing filter.

Dave  W5DHM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 : AM synchronous detection

2008-01-12 Thread Lyle Johnson

...I'm wondering if we'll be able to have more bandwidth on
AM when we use a 12 KHz or similar roofing filter.


I expect this will be the case.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 : AM synchronous detection

2008-01-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hello Dave:

The errata with the list of features is the one you should have received
with the Owner's manual. The current one on the Elecraft web site is C1-1
dated Nov 18. 

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20owner's%20man%20errata%20C1-1.pdf

It sounds like you were looking at the errata sheet for the Kit assembly
manual.  

I have a 6 kHz filter as well, and for best audio fidelity I use a SSB mode
to listen to broadcast AM. The excellent stability and high tuning accuracy
of the K3 means I just punch in the frequency I want and even music is
within one or two Hz of the right frequency - much too close for me to hear
any tone error. 

As Lyle noted, the I.F. bandwidth of an AM signal is *twice* the audio
bandwidth since there are two sidebands that must fit through the 6 kHz
filter bandpass on an AM signal. I find that's FB on Ham AM signals, but
those commercial AM stations who make full use of their 5 kHz audio
bandwidth are cut off at about 3 kHz in AM mode. Gong to SSB mode with the 6
KHz filter allows the full audio bandwidth through. 

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 : AM synchronous detection

2008-01-12 Thread Dave Martin
Roger, Ron.

I just hadn't seen any information that would indicate how wide the
DSP filters would go if one had a roofing filter wider than 6 KHz.
I've used only one sideband when there was interference on one side of
the other of an AM signal, but always used the 746Pro's synchronous AM
when possible.  That's one thing it did well.  So I'm hoping that the
firmware will develop to allow better than 3 KHz real AM if one has
the roof for it.  And surely it will, the way the guys are going.
Better and better every week.  By the time my K3 arrives there'll be
nothing left to whine about.

On Jan 12, 2008 1:18 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Dave:

 The errata with the list of features is the one you should have received
 with the Owner's manual. The current one on the Elecraft web site is C1-1
 dated Nov 18.

 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20owner's%20man%20errata%20C1-1.pdf

 It sounds like you were looking at the errata sheet for the Kit assembly
 manual.

 I have a 6 kHz filter as well, and for best audio fidelity I use a SSB mode
 to listen to broadcast AM. The excellent stability and high tuning accuracy
 of the K3 means I just punch in the frequency I want and even music is
 within one or two Hz of the right frequency - much too close for me to hear
 any tone error.

 As Lyle noted, the I.F. bandwidth of an AM signal is *twice* the audio
 bandwidth since there are two sidebands that must fit through the 6 kHz
 filter bandpass on an AM signal. I find that's FB on Ham AM signals, but
 those commercial AM stations who make full use of their 5 kHz audio
 bandwidth are cut off at about 3 kHz in AM mode. Gong to SSB mode with the 6
 KHz filter allows the full audio bandwidth through.

 Ron AC7AC

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