Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-17 Thread mteberle
The Heil adapter for connecting a 1/8 plug to the 8-pin front panel jack is 
the AD-1-K.  I have my headset connected to the rear panel MIC connector and my 
computer sound card connected to the rear panel LINE-IN connector.  I have not 
had any problems with it other than forgetting to change the mode to DATA then 
wondering why I have no audio on the digital modes.  As others have mentioned, 
you may need to just turn off the MIC+LINE setting as this is how my K3 is set 
up.

73,
Mike KI0HA
- Original Message -
From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
To: Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 11:25:07 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

Bill,

I would suggest that you can obtain a Heil Kenwood adapter that is used 
for the Elecraft ProSet-K2 (I forget the exact Heil designation) that 
will allow you to connect the CM500 mic - you will also need a 1/8 inch 
stereo female to 1/4 inch male adapter to match the headphone jack on 
the adapter.

If using that adapter, you would need to unplug the MH2 and plug in the 
CM500 (with the adapter) and adjust the mic gain.

OTOH, If you want to construct a box with a switch, that will work too.

In any case, I would suggest you turn off MIC+LINE unless you are also 
using a computer to send pre-recorded messages.

When you switch to digital modes, the mic sel should be set to LINE IN 
only - the audio input settings for SSB and digital modes are 
independent in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 5/16/2013 7:35 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
 I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using 
 the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in 
 the voice modes (AM, FM SSB,  CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias 
 for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup 
 works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually 
 turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a 
 DATA A and AFSK A operator.)

 If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, 
 and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and 
 data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, 
 and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good.

 So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an 
 interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route 
 the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot 
 switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks 
 Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.)

 My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons 
 to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but 
 what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from 
 the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer 
 switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.)

 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-17 Thread Bill Frantz
Thanks Don, Joe, Mike, and Iain for pointing out the MIC+LIN is 
probably where my problem lies. I set up soundcard modes first 
and didn't realize that the sound source was remembered by mode. 
So of course I needed sound from both so I set MIC+LIN.


Thanks all - Bill, AE6JV

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[Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-16 Thread Bill Frantz
I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. 
Using the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to 
FP.L bias in the voice modes (AM, FM SSB,  CS) while MIC SEL is 
set to rP.L bias for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for 
all modes. This setup works well using VOX for transmitter 
keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off and using PTT when I 
run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A operator.)


If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of 
the K3, and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between 
voice modes and data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack 
keys the transmitter, and I assume is added to the output signal 
-- not good.


So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to 
build an interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC 
connector to route the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can 
include a jack for a foot switch to do PTT and set it up so the 
MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don for the pointer to Universal 
Radio for the Mic connectors.)


My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add 
buttons to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning 
the radio, but what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I 
parallel the Mic audio from the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be 
better to switch them? (Fewer switches and modes will make my 
wife, KI6SLX happier.)


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Englewood Ave
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CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-16 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Bill,

Why do you have MIC+LIN on? If you don't need that, turn it off, and
set MIC SEL to line in for the digital modes, and RP.L bias for
phone modes.

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:
 I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using the MH2
 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in the voice
 modes (AM, FM SSB,  CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias for the DATA
 modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup works well using VOX
 for transmitter keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off and using PTT
 when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A operator.)

 If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, and
 change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and data mode
 no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, and I assume is
 added to the output signal -- not good.

 So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an
 interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route the
 audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot switch to do
 PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don for the pointer
 to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.)

 My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons to UP
 and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but what does
 the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from the CM500 and
 the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer switches and modes will
 make my wife, KI6SLX happier.)

 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

 ---
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 www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, CA 95032

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-16 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


  MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes.

*WHY* would you enable Mic+Line?  Use Line for data modes and either
FP.L or RP.L for voice modes.  That way you will not get mic noise in
the digital modes.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/16/2013 7:35 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using the
MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in the
voice modes (AM, FM SSB,  CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias for the
DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup works well
using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually turning VOX off
and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a DATA A and AFSK A
operator.)

If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3,
and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and
data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, and
I assume is added to the output signal -- not good.

So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an
interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route
the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot
switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks Don
for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.)

My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons
to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but
what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from
the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer
switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.)

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic connector options

2013-05-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

I would suggest that you can obtain a Heil Kenwood adapter that is used 
for the Elecraft ProSet-K2 (I forget the exact Heil designation) that 
will allow you to connect the CM500 mic - you will also need a 1/8 inch 
stereo female to 1/4 inch male adapter to match the headphone jack on 
the adapter.


If using that adapter, you would need to unplug the MH2 and plug in the 
CM500 (with the adapter) and adjust the mic gain.


OTOH, If you want to construct a box with a switch, that will work too.

In any case, I would suggest you turn off MIC+LINE unless you are also 
using a computer to send pre-recorded messages.


When you switch to digital modes, the mic sel should be set to LINE IN 
only - the audio input settings for SSB and digital modes are 
independent in the K3.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 5/16/2013 7:35 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
I have been trying to get my CM500 headset running with my K3. Using 
the MH2 mic plugged into the front panel with MIC SEL to FP.L bias in 
the voice modes (AM, FM SSB,  CS) while MIC SEL is set to rP.L bias 
for the DATA modes. MIC+LIN is set to On for all modes. This setup 
works well using VOX for transmitter keying in DATA and manually 
turning VOX off and using PTT when I run voice modes. (I'm mostly a 
DATA A and AFSK A operator.)


If I plug the microphone from the CM500 into the rear panel of the K3, 
and change MIC SEL to rP.L bias, this division between voice modes and 
data mode no longer works. Noise in the shack keys the transmitter, 
and I assume is added to the output signal -- not good.


So, my current plan, unless someone says, Hey Dummy!, is to build an 
interface box which plugs into the front panel MIC connector to route 
the audio from the CM500 to the K3. I can include a jack for a foot 
switch to do PTT and set it up so the MH2 is also available. (Thanks 
Don for the pointer to Universal Radio for the Mic connectors.)


My questions are: What to do with the other 3 lines? I can add buttons 
to UP and DOWN lines to provide another way for tuning the radio, but 
what does the FUNCTION line do? And, can I parallel the Mic audio from 
the CM500 and the MH2 or would it be better to switch them? (Fewer 
switches and modes will make my wife, KI6SLX happier.)


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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