Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:26:31 +, Lance Collister wrote: >I can't imagine trying to use the computer during a SSB contest or for >meteor scatter without the ability to interrupt it. The programs I have used >for >this look for an interrupt via the serial port's DSR line. I can't imagine NOT using a computer during a contest! I've been using Thinkpads with logging software to control at least five different models of radios, send CW, play SSB messages, send and decode RTTY for six years. For the first few years I used WriteLog, switched to N1MM 2-3 years ago. Both of these programs will stop sending their pre-programmed message if you hit escape. I use VOX in both SSB and RTTY modes, so the K3 stops transmitting. I work 20-30 contests a year, and I have NEVER used any interface more complicated than a serial cable and simple audio connections between radio and computer. For radios other than the K3, I added the a simple NPN interface to invert the CW keying line. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
Thanks Jim1 I'll play with it tonight and see what happens... Had someone OTA help with levels using the sound card recordings, had REALLY backed off on the card gain. GL this weekend! 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html http://groups.google.com/group/tcg1?hl=en Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3/100 #1875 --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] wrote: > From: Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] > > Subject: Re: K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? > PTT or VOX during SSB contest? > To: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" > Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 7:14 PM > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:14:39 -0800 (PST), Julius Fazekas > n2wn wrote: > > > >The sound card output was connected to the K3 MIC MONO > on the rear panel, > > > That's your problem -- you should be driving the LINE > IN of the K3, not the > > MIC IN. Then set the K3 to MIC + LIN to use both your > live mic and the > > computer playback. Follow the instructions in the K3 for > setting levels. As > > K6LL has suggested, you sorta need a way to mute the mic so > you can slurp. To > > do that, you need to feed the mic to the computer and let > N1MM turn it on and > > off. N1MM will also switch it between radios for SO2R. If > you're doing it > > that way, you set the K3 for LIN only. > > > 73, > > > Jim K9YC > > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden > email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > View message @ > http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Stereo-mic-plug-into-rear-panel-mic-mono-jack-Ok-or-not-PTT-or-VOX-during-SSB-contest-tp4672243p4678242.html > > > To unsubscribe from Re: K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel > mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?, > click > here. > > > - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Stereo-mic-plug-into-rear-panel-mic-mono-jack-Ok-or-not-PTT-or-VOX-during-SSB-contest-tp4672243p4682519.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
On 3/5/2010 12:14 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:14:39 -0800 (PST), Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: > >> The sound card output was connected to the K3 MIC MONO on the rear panel, > > That's your problem -- you should be driving the LINE IN of the K3, not the > MIC IN. Then set the K3 to MIC + LIN to use both your live mic and the > computer playback. Follow the instructions in the K3 for setting levels. As > K6LL has suggested, you sorta need a way to mute the mic so you can slurp. To > do that, you need to feed the mic to the computer and let N1MM turn it on and > off. N1MM will also switch it between radios for SO2R. If you're doing it > that way, you set the K3 for LIN only. > > 73, > > Jim K9YC That is precisely why I use the separate digital interface. I built a separate relay into my interface that disconnects the microphone when the computer is operational sending a SSB message, and the mic is activated and the computer message is stopped as soon as I put down the footswitch to manually operate the mic. I can't imagine trying to use the computer during a SSB contest or for meteor scatter without the ability to interrupt it. The programs I have used for this look for an interrupt via the serial port's DSR line. I would think this would be possible with a flexible rig such as the K3, but apparently it is not yet incorporated into the firmware. I don't know if it is on a "firmware wish list" or not, but I think it should be. GL and VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex: WN3GPL, WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834 USA QTH: DN27UB TEL: (406) 626-5728 URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj LIVE MESSENGER CHAT: w...@hotmail.com 2m DXCC #11, 6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME email! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:14:39 -0800 (PST), Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: >The sound card output was connected to the K3 MIC MONO on the rear panel, That's your problem -- you should be driving the LINE IN of the K3, not the MIC IN. Then set the K3 to MIC + LIN to use both your live mic and the computer playback. Follow the instructions in the K3 for setting levels. As K6LL has suggested, you sorta need a way to mute the mic so you can slurp. To do that, you need to feed the mic to the computer and let N1MM turn it on and off. N1MM will also switch it between radios for SO2R. If you're doing it that way, you set the K3 for LIN only. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
HC-4 is plugged into the sound card MIC IN, straight connection, no adapter. It works fine, can record and audio is good. The sound card output was connected to the K3 MIC MONO on the rear panel, with rP.H selected in config. I did this based on N1MM setup information. I used a stock 1/8" stereo cable. I did not try LINE IN MONO on the rear of the K3. I did get it to work by going from sound card out to the K3 front panel mic connector using the Heil adapter. It was set at FP.H. It worked OK. If I understand correctly, I need to have an stereo to mono adapter and use the K3 LINE IN MONO. Is that correct? Thanks for your help Dave! Julius - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Stereo-mic-plug-into-rear-panel-mic-mono-jack-Ok-or-not-PTT-or-VOX-during-SSB-contest-tp4672243p4676521.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Your HC-4 should connect to the sound card MIC IN (via STEREO plug with audio on tip, shield on shell, no connection to ring). Turn sound card MIC BOOST on. The sound card output (tip or ring of 1/8" stereo) should connect to LINE IN on the K3 (1/8" mono). Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -- From: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:46 AM To: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest? > > I use a foot switch, but mostly so I can mutter between QSOs > ;o) > > I have a problem with the soundcard to K3 connection. When I > use the rear > mic jack, I get a low level squeal/tone . I do not have this > when I use the > front mic jack. Both are set High... I'm using a stereo cable, > which works > fine. The mic is an HC-4 connected via the sound card. > > I am definitely a SSB neophyte, but did manage to get N1MM to > send a few > messages for me and CQ. > Definitely room for improvement. > > Thanks, > Julius > > - > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html > > Tennessee QSO Party > http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > Elecraft K3#1875 > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Stereo-mic-plug-into-rear-panel-mic-mono-jack-Ok-or-not-PTT-or-VOX-during-SSB-contest-tp4672243p4675935.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
I use a foot switch, but mostly so I can mutter between QSOs ;o) I have a problem with the soundcard to K3 connection. When I use the rear mic jack, I get a low level squeal/tone . I do not have this when I use the front mic jack. Both are set High... I'm using a stereo cable, which works fine. The mic is an HC-4 connected via the sound card. I am definitely a SSB neophyte, but did manage to get N1MM to send a few messages for me and CQ. Definitely room for improvement. Thanks, Julius - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Stereo-mic-plug-into-rear-panel-mic-mono-jack-Ok-or-not-PTT-or-VOX-during-SSB-contest-tp4672243p4675935.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:58:46 -0700, Dave Hachadorian wrote: >If your logging software supports it, consider plugging your mike >into the soundcard mic input and routing sound card output to the >K3's LINE IN. That way the mic is muted while wav is playing, and >you can slurp coffee, etc. without tripping the vox. Great advice. One of the most important functions of voice playback during SSB contests is to let you munch and slurp so you can keep your butt in the chair longer. :) To answer the original question, while the K3 uses a 3-circuit jack (tip-ring-sleeve) for the mic, there is no connection to the ring. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Stereo mic plug into rear panel mic (mono) jack! Okor not? PTT or VOX during SSB contest?
> My first thoughts are that PTT might avoid problems re: setting > of VOX:GN, > DELAY and ANTVOX! You're not going to have any problem setting up the vox, especially since you are using a fairly well isolated headset. The K3 has about the smoothest vox operation I've seen. Then again, I'm biased against footswitches. I like to change my position frequently during a contest and dislike having my foot always in the same position. If your logging software supports it, consider plugging your mike into the soundcard mic input and routing sound card output to the K3's LINE IN. That way the mic is muted while wav is playing, and you can slurp coffee, etc. without tripping the vox. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
