Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

2009-10-21 Thread Richard Thorne
Thats the only bummer about he MKII. On my operating table its a bit of 
a challenge to have to swap out cables on the back of the rig.  I guess 
an extension off of the K3 could be made so one doesn't have to drag the 
rig out to make the change.

Rich - N5ZC


Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
   
 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  
 

 No.  

 You might get lucky with a complicated set-up;  set Radio to 
 No Radio, use only one CAT port, set the K3 to 38,400 bps and 
 set the K3 Utility to keep speed at 38,400 bps.  However, the 
 chance of errors is so high that it is not worth the risk. 

 I keep a real serial port/cable handy for firmware updates and 
 I've still had intermittent upload failures. 

 73, 

... Joe, W4TV 
  



   
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 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  
 I know it was possible but after the loader was originally 
 upgraded there was a possible glitch that would cause the 
 firmware load to fail.  My firmware is at 2.38 and I think it 
 is time to come out of the Dark Ages once again.

  

 John

 K8WDN K3 #157

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

2009-10-21 Thread Henk Remijn PA5KT
I always use my MKII to do the upgrade.

Followed the procedure as Joe describes. No problems.
If you are in doubt first try to save the configuration to test the 
communication.

I know this procedure is not recommended.

73 Henk PA5KT

Richard Thorne schreef:
 Thats the only bummer about he MKII. On my operating table its a bit of 
 a challenge to have to swap out cables on the back of the rig.  I guess 
 an extension off of the K3 could be made so one doesn't have to drag the 
 rig out to make the change.

 Rich - N5ZC


 Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
   
   
 
 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  
 
   
 No.  

 You might get lucky with a complicated set-up;  set Radio to 
 No Radio, use only one CAT port, set the K3 to 38,400 bps and 
 set the K3 Utility to keep speed at 38,400 bps.  However, the 
 chance of errors is so high that it is not worth the risk. 

 I keep a real serial port/cable handy for firmware updates and 
 I've still had intermittent upload failures. 

 73, 

... Joe, W4TV 
  



   
 
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 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII


 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  
 I know it was possible but after the loader was originally 
 upgraded there was a possible glitch that would cause the 
 firmware load to fail.  My firmware is at 2.38 and I think it 
 is time to come out of the Dark Ages once again.

  

 John

 K8WDN K3 #157

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

2009-10-21 Thread Lu Romero
John:

I wouldnt try it.  Both Elecraft and MicroHam disclaim it.

Here is what I do:

My Ham Radio computer has a dedicated Serial port.  I have
two MicroKeyers (an original and a 2) which I use to drive
my K3 and my secondary TS570.  Both of these are driven by
single USB cables.  

Since the K3 requires exclusive access to the serial port
for config and upgrades, I have purchased a very inexpensive
($8 new), RS232 one by two data switch.  I plug the
MicroKeyer 2's serial CAT connector into one section and the
serial line from my computer's single serial port to the
second connector.  I then place a gender changer on the
common DB9, then place a RS232 cable from that DB9 to the K3
CAT connector.

When I need radio control from my logging programs, I
patch the MicroHam control through to the K3, when I need
to upgrade software, I place the switch in the other
position and patch the serial port directly from the
computer into the radio.

No issues and no problems in two months of K3 operation
(with many software upgrades accomplished).

Lu-W4LT
K3 # 3192
   



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Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.
 I know it was
possible but after the loader was originally upgraded there
was a possible
glitch that would cause the firmware load to fail.  My
firmware is at 2.38
and I think it is time to come out of the Dark Ages once
again.

 

John

K8WDN K3 #157



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[Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

2009-10-20 Thread John Gaynard
Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  I know it was
possible but after the loader was originally upgraded there was a possible
glitch that would cause the firmware load to fail.  My firmware is at 2.38
and I think it is time to come out of the Dark Ages once again.

 

John

K8WDN K3 #157

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

2009-10-20 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Please don't do firmware upgrades through the microHAM router.  

You may sometimes succeed if you tell the router that the radio type is
none.

Please don't start this unless you have an alternate USB to Serial adapter
or an RS-232 connection available.  

The K3 Utility doesn't see responses to a K3 in boot load state when it's
connected through a microHAM router.

Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  I know it was
possible but after the loader was originally upgraded there was a possible
glitch that would cause the firmware load to fail.  My firmware is at 2.38
and I think it is time to come out of the Dark Ages once again.

 

John

K8WDN K3 #157

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

2009-10-20 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  

No.  

You might get lucky with a complicated set-up;  set Radio to 
No Radio, use only one CAT port, set the K3 to 38,400 bps and 
set the K3 Utility to keep speed at 38,400 bps.  However, the 
chance of errors is so high that it is not worth the risk. 

I keep a real serial port/cable handy for firmware updates and 
I've still had intermittent upload failures. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Gaynard
 Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:21 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII
 
 
 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  
 I know it was possible but after the loader was originally 
 upgraded there was a possible glitch that would cause the 
 firmware load to fail.  My firmware is at 2.38 and I think it 
 is time to come out of the Dark Ages once again.
 
  
 
 John
 
 K8WDN K3 #157
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII

2009-10-20 Thread John Gaynard
Thanks.  Guess I'll use the serial cable.  Not worth the risk of failure.

John K8WDN

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:08 PM
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 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  

No.  

You might get lucky with a complicated set-up;  set Radio to 
No Radio, use only one CAT port, set the K3 to 38,400 bps and 
set the K3 Utility to keep speed at 38,400 bps.  However, the 
chance of errors is so high that it is not worth the risk. 

I keep a real serial port/cable handy for firmware updates and 
I've still had intermittent upload failures. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Gaynard
 Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:21 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware upgrade via Microham MKII
 
 
 Can the Microham MKII be used to do the K3 Firmware upgrade.  
 I know it was possible but after the loader was originally 
 upgraded there was a possible glitch that would cause the 
 firmware load to fail.  My firmware is at 2.38 and I think it 
 is time to come out of the Dark Ages once again.
 
  
 
 John
 
 K8WDN K3 #157
 
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