Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-21 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Make sure you are using only one PTT method.  CAT  or VOX but never both.  I 
prefer CAT as any signal or any noise on the audio line will trip the VOX and 
thus hold it in transmit. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Oct 21, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> I indeed had MIC BTN on, and turned it off. I the KX3 still didn't go into 
> receive when I pressed the "Halt Tx" button. (MIC BIAS was already off.)
> 
> Another issue I didn't mention before seems to have gotten worse. Sometimes 
> pressing the "XMIT" button on the KX3 doesn't take it out of transmit mode. 
> When I press it it stays in transmit. Press it again and it still is in 
> transmit. It finally goes into receive when wsjt-x gets to its receive phase.
> 
> I am still having problems developing a mental model of what is actually 
> happening here. Maybe I'll have to download the wsjt-s source code and start 
> reading code again. But that's what I retired from years ago. :-)
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
>> On 10/20/18 at 3:35 PM, r...@mosslight.com (Robert Albano) wrote:
>> 
>> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as 
>> well.
>> 
>> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
>> 
>> 73 Robert K7RNA
>> 
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same behavior:
>>> KX3
>>> PX3
>>> SignaLink
>>> MacBook Pro
>>> CAT interface
>>> 
 On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
  I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 
 work with wsjt-x. On the
>> K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the radio. With 
>> the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has 
>> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get 
>> it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out 
>> of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
  Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
 changing bands from the
>> wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
  The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from 
 the K3S.
  The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
 interface using a
>> mini-dongle USB sound "card".
  The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
  73 Bill AE6JV
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-21 Thread Bill Frantz
I indeed had MIC BTN on, and turned it off. I the KX3 still 
didn't go into receive when I pressed the "Halt Tx" button. (MIC 
BIAS was already off.)


Another issue I didn't mention before seems to have gotten 
worse. Sometimes pressing the "XMIT" button on the KX3 doesn't 
take it out of transmit mode. When I press it it stays in 
transmit. Press it again and it still is in transmit. It finally 
goes into receive when wsjt-x gets to its receive phase.


I am still having problems developing a mental model of what is 
actually happening here. Maybe I'll have to download the wsjt-s 
source code and start reading code again. But that's what I 
retired from years ago. :-)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 10/20/18 at 3:35 PM, r...@mosslight.com (Robert Albano) wrote:


Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.

Should MIC BIAS be off as well?

73 Robert K7RNA


On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:

I have the same behavior:
KX3
PX3
SignaLink
MacBook Pro
CAT interface


On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
  I have noticed an significant difference between the way 
my K3 and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the
K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission on the 
radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, 
although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to 
press the "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive 
mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the radio out of 
transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the radio.
  Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT 
interface, like changing bands from the

wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
  The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 
interface from the K3S.
  The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a 
home brew audio interface using a

mini-dongle USB sound "card".

  The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
  73 Bill AE6JV
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-21 Thread Brian Waterworth
It is not disabled automatically in Data A mode.   I have looked and if I
don’t set it purposefully it will remain at the last setting per band.  I
have macros that I use to toggle between voice operation and digital
modes.  I set the mic bias and mic btn menu items accordingly.

Happy to proven wrong as I could then shorten my macros.  But I have
experimented and what I have written is based on my observations of the
menu settings.   Also, I found nothing in the KX3 operation manual to
indicate mic bias or btn are disabled on Data A mode.

Regards
Brian
VE3IBW

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:30 AM Walter Underwood 
wrote:

> I think the mic bias is automatically disabled in DATA A mode. But I might
> be wrong.
>
> wunder
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> Walter Underwood
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>
> > On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
> >
> > MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias
> has NO other use.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
> >>
> >> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3
> as well.
> >>
> >> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
> >>
> >> 73 Robert K7RNA
> >>
> >>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have the same behavior:
> >>> KX3
> >>> PX3
> >>> SignaLink
> >>> MacBook Pro
> >>> CAT interface
> >>>
>  On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz 
> wrote:
> 
>  I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and
> KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops
> transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit
> mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the
> "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the
> CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is
> not being processed by the radio.
> 
>  Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface,
> like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
> 
>  The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface
> from the K3S.
> 
>  The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew
> audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
> 
>  The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
> 
>  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
> 
>  73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-21 Thread Walter Underwood
I think the mic bias is automatically disabled in DATA A mode. But I might be 
wrong. 

wunder
K6WRU
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CM87wj
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> On Oct 20, 2018, at 4:54 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias has 
> NO other use. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
>> 
>> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as 
>> well.
>> 
>> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
>> 
>> 73 Robert K7RNA
>> 
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the same behavior:
>>> KX3
>>> PX3
>>> SignaLink
>>> MacBook Pro
>>> CAT interface
>>> 
 On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
 
 I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 
 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops 
 transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit 
 mode, although the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the 
 "XMIT" button on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the 
 CAT command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is 
 not being processed by the radio.
 
 Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
 changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
 
 The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from 
 the K3S.
 
 The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
 interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
 
 The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
 
 Has anyone else experienced this issue?
 
 73 Bill AE6JV
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-20 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes, use only method for PTT.   Either CAT or VOX,  but never both.   I 
prefer CAT as, for digital operation,  I don't have to mess with the VOX 
values for my normal SSB operation.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 10/20/2018 6:52 PM, Nr4c wrote:

Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface 
and VOX settings.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:

What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?


On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz  wrote:

I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
or is not being processed by the radio.

Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.

The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
interface from the K3S.

The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".

The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

73 Bill AE6JV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-20 Thread Nr4c
MIC BIAS should be OFF unless you are using a mic that requires it. Bias has NO 
other use. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 20, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
> 
> Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.
> 
> Should MIC BIAS be off as well?
> 
> 73 Robert K7RNA
> 
>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same behavior:
>> KX3
>> PX3
>> SignaLink
>> MacBook Pro
>> CAT interface
>> 
>>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work 
>>> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission 
>>> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although 
>>> the computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button 
>>> on the radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to 
>>> take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being 
>>> processed by the radio.
>>> 
>>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
>>> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>>> 
>>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from 
>>> the K3S.
>>> 
>>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
>>> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>>> 
>>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>> 
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-20 Thread Nr4c
Sounds like you have more than one PTT control active. Check out your interface 
and VOX settings. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Oct 20, 2018, at 5:46 PM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:
> 
> What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
>> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
>> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
>> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
>> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
>> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
>> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
>> or is not being processed by the radio.
>> 
>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
>> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>> 
>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
>> interface from the K3S.
>> 
>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
>> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>> 
>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> 
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>> eloquence, it is force; like
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>> action. Geo Washington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-20 Thread Robert Albano
Turning the MIC BTN off fixed the problem.  Now Halt Tx stops the KX3 as well.

Should MIC BIAS be off as well?

73 Robert K7RNA

> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 3:26 PM, Robert Albano  wrote:
> 
> I have the same behavior:
> KX3
> PX3
> SignaLink
> MacBook Pro
> CAT interface
> 
>> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
>> 
>> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work 
>> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission 
>> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the 
>> computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the 
>> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take 
>> the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by 
>> the radio.
>> 
>> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
>> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>> 
>> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the 
>> K3S.
>> 
>> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
>> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>> 
>> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> -
>> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is 
>> force; like
>> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. 
>> Never for a
>> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo 
>> Washington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-20 Thread Robert Albano
I have the same behavior:
KX3
PX3
SignaLink
MacBook Pro
CAT interface

> On 2018 Oct, 20, at 2:21 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 and KX3 work 
> with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button immediately stops transmission 
> on the radio. With the KX3, the radio remains in transmit mode, although the 
> computer has stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the 
> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT command to take the 
> radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent or is not being processed by the 
> radio.
> 
> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT interface, like 
> changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
> 
> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 interface from the 
> K3S.
> 
> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home brew audio 
> interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
> 
> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> -
> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is 
> force; like
> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. 
> Never for a
> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible action. Geo 
> Washington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-20 Thread rich hurd WC3T
What is the setting of MIC BTN on the KX3?

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 17:21 Bill Frantz  wrote:

> I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3
> and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button
> immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the
> radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has
> stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the
> radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT
> command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent
> or is not being processed by the radio.
>
> Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT
> interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.
>
> The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232
> interface from the K3S.
>
> The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home
> brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".
>
> The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>
> -
> Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not
> eloquence, it is force; like
> 408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful
> master. Never for a
> www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible
> action. Geo Washington
>
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[Elecraft] K3 vs. KX3 with wsjt-x

2018-10-20 Thread Bill Frantz
I have noticed an significant difference between the way my K3 
and KX3 work with wsjt-x. On the K3, the "Halt Tx" button 
immediately stops transmission on the radio. With the KX3, the 
radio remains in transmit mode, although the computer has 
stopped sending audio. I have to press the "XMIT" button on the 
radio to get it back to receive mode. It is as if the CAT 
command to take the radio out of transmit mode isn't being sent 
or is not being processed by the radio.


Not that on both radios other actions which use the CAT 
interface, like changing bands from the wsjt-x UI, work correctly.


The K3 has been upgraded to the internal sound card/RS232 
interface from the K3S.


The KX3 is being used with a USB <--> RS232 cable and a home 
brew audio interface using a mini-dongle USB sound "card".


The computer in both cases is a MacBook Pro.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

73 Bill AE6JV

-
Bill Frantz| Government is not reason, it is not 
eloquence, it is force; like
408-356-8506   | a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful 
master. Never for a
www.pwpconsult.com | moment should it be left to irresponsible 
action. Geo Washington


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