Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
If anyone is interested I have a Netgear WNCE-2001 available. https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-WNCE2001/dp/B003KPBRRW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3ISCYH13ZQJCI&keywords=wnce2001&qid=1650994213&s=electronics&sprefix=wnce%2Celectronics%2C155&sr=1-3 $60 Shipped CONUS. 73 Greg AB7R On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 11:10 AM Alan Bloom wrote: > Yes, a WiFi extender works for me as well. The one I'm using is $39 on > Amazon: > > > https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0118SPFCK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 > > Alan N1AL > > > On 4/26/22 07:01, Dave wrote: > > As someone who doesn’t have a wired Ethernet connection in the shack, I > can > > assure anyone concerned about updating a K4 via wireless, that an > ordinary > > WiFi extender with an RJ45 Ethernet port works fine. > > > > I use a Netgear AC1200 (EX6120) with a 5 metre Cat6 fully shielded patch > > cable. It works fine. The extender is 30 GBP from Amazon UK. > > > > 73 Dave G4AON > > K4D #286 > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to greg.a...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
Yes, a WiFi extender works for me as well. The one I'm using is $39 on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0118SPFCK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Alan N1AL On 4/26/22 07:01, Dave wrote: As someone who doesn’t have a wired Ethernet connection in the shack, I can assure anyone concerned about updating a K4 via wireless, that an ordinary WiFi extender with an RJ45 Ethernet port works fine. I use a Netgear AC1200 (EX6120) with a 5 metre Cat6 fully shielded patch cable. It works fine. The extender is 30 GBP from Amazon UK. 73 Dave G4AON K4D #286 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
As someone who doesn’t have a wired Ethernet connection in the shack, I can assure anyone concerned about updating a K4 via wireless, that an ordinary WiFi extender with an RJ45 Ethernet port works fine. I use a Netgear AC1200 (EX6120) with a 5 metre Cat6 fully shielded patch cable. It works fine. The extender is 30 GBP from Amazon UK. 73 Dave G4AON K4D #286 -- Sent from my iPhone SE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
On the contrary, it's easy to update wirelessly. I must have been less than clear with my original comment. Let me try again: If you don't have wired ethernet conveniently available near your K4, get a "Ethernet Extender" such as this: https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter-Extender-TP-Link/dp/B084CZMYNM/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=ethernet%2Bextender&qid=1650918537&sr=8-6&th=1 The device connects to your WiFi network. It also has an RJ45 connector. Run an ethernet cable from the device to your K4 and it works as if you had connected the K4 directly to your router. 73, /Rick N6XI On 4/25/22 1:05 PM, John Stengrevics wrote: There is no way to update wirelessly? John WA1EAZ On Apr 25, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Rick Tavan wrote: No other setup that I'm aware of. Just plug in wired RJ45 Ethernet with active DHCP and an IP address appears on the K4 menu. Tap Fn|UPDATE and you're in dialog to download the latest or a prior release. Easy peasy. If you don't have easy access to wired Ethernet, use a so-called Ethernet Extender with an RJ45 jack and use your in-home WiFi signal. /Rick N6XI /Rick N6XI On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:47 AM Fred Jensen wrote: That is only true if DHCP is enabled in the router [it almost always is in home situations], AND the device you're connecting is configured to negotiate with DHCP for an IP address lease. I don't have a K4 but I suspect there is at least one other attribute for the IP address setting that will activate DHCP negotiation with your router. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Dave wrote on 4/25/2022 11:28 AM: When you plug in the Ethernet connection from the radio to your router then router should assign the radio an IP address then you can do the akftware updates. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Roy Morris, Jr. via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice provider router to my K4 for firmware updates? If so, would I need to go into the K4 menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default setting? Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jstengrev...@comcast.net -- Rick Tavan, Saratoga & Truckee, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
There is no way to update wirelessly? John WA1EAZ > On Apr 25, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Rick Tavan wrote: > > No other setup that I'm aware of. Just plug in wired RJ45 Ethernet with > active DHCP and an IP address appears on the K4 menu. Tap Fn|UPDATE and > you're in dialog to download the latest or a prior release. Easy peasy. > > If you don't have easy access to wired Ethernet, use a so-called Ethernet > Extender with an RJ45 jack and use your in-home WiFi signal. > > /Rick N6XI > > /Rick N6XI > > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:47 AM Fred Jensen wrote: > >> That is only true if DHCP is enabled in the router [it almost always is >> in home situations], AND the device you're connecting is configured to >> negotiate with DHCP for an IP address lease. I don't have a K4 but I >> suspect there is at least one other attribute for the IP address setting >> that will activate DHCP negotiation with your router. >> >> 73, >> >> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >> Sparks NV DM09dn >> Washoe County >> >> Dave wrote on 4/25/2022 11:28 AM: >>> When you plug in the Ethernet connection from the radio to your router >> then router should assign the radio an IP address then you can do the >> akftware updates. >>> >>> Dave wo2x >>> >>> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. >>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Roy Morris, Jr. via Elecraft < >> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice >> provider router to my K4 for firmware updates? If so, would I need to go >> into the K4 menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default >> setting? Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com > > > > -- > -- > > Rick Tavan > Truckee and Saratoga, CA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jstengrev...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
No other setup that I'm aware of. Just plug in wired RJ45 Ethernet with active DHCP and an IP address appears on the K4 menu. Tap Fn|UPDATE and you're in dialog to download the latest or a prior release. Easy peasy. If you don't have easy access to wired Ethernet, use a so-called Ethernet Extender with an RJ45 jack and use your in-home WiFi signal. /Rick N6XI /Rick N6XI On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:47 AM Fred Jensen wrote: > That is only true if DHCP is enabled in the router [it almost always is > in home situations], AND the device you're connecting is configured to > negotiate with DHCP for an IP address lease. I don't have a K4 but I > suspect there is at least one other attribute for the IP address setting > that will activate DHCP negotiation with your router. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > Dave wrote on 4/25/2022 11:28 AM: > > When you plug in the Ethernet connection from the radio to your router > then router should assign the radio an IP address then you can do the > akftware updates. > > > > Dave wo2x > > > > Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > > > >> On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Roy Morris, Jr. via Elecraft < > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > >> > >> Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice > provider router to my K4 for firmware updates? If so, would I need to go > into the K4 menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default > setting? Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com > > > > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rta...@gmail.com -- -- Rick Tavan Truckee and Saratoga, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
The K4D default is DHCP client enabled, and as you point out almost all home routers are configured as DHCP servers. The only time I have seen when they are not is if someone had changed it. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:46 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > > That is only true if DHCP is enabled in the router [it almost always is in > home situations], AND the device you're connecting is configured to negotiate > with DHCP for an IP address lease. I don't have a K4 but I suspect there is > at least one other attribute for the IP address setting that will activate > DHCP negotiation with your router. > > 73, > > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > > Dave wrote on 4/25/2022 11:28 AM: >> When you plug in the Ethernet connection from the radio to your router then >> router should assign the radio an IP address then you can do the akftware >> updates. >> >> Dave wo2x >> >> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. >> >>> On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Roy Morris, Jr. via Elecraft >>> wrote: >>> >>> Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice provider >>> router to my K4 for firmware updates? If so, would I need to go into the >>> K4 menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default setting? >>> Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com >> > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > www.avg.com > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
That is only true if DHCP is enabled in the router [it almost always is in home situations], AND the device you're connecting is configured to negotiate with DHCP for an IP address lease. I don't have a K4 but I suspect there is at least one other attribute for the IP address setting that will activate DHCP negotiation with your router. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Dave wrote on 4/25/2022 11:28 AM: When you plug in the Ethernet connection from the radio to your router then router should assign the radio an IP address then you can do the akftware updates. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Roy Morris, Jr. via Elecraft wrote: Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice provider router to my K4 for firmware updates? If so, would I need to go into the K4 menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default setting? Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
When you plug in the Ethernet connection from the radio to your router then router should assign the radio an IP address then you can do the akftware updates. Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans. > On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Roy Morris, Jr. via Elecraft > wrote: > > Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice provider > router to my K4 for firmware updates? If so, would I need to go into the K4 > menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default setting? > Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating
Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice provider router to my K4 for firmware updates? If so, would I need to go into the K4 menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default setting? Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
