[Elecraft] KAT500 producing S4-5-birdie on 28004.5

2013-06-29 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Hi all,

KAT500 + KPA500 connected to K3 through coax and elecraft 
interfacecables. NO antenna connected to KAT500 (all 3 connectors open)

KAT500 and K3 connected to same DC-supply.

KPA500 off (AC cord disconnected)

Results:
KAT500 switched on, Mode = auto, ANT = 1, no antenna connected: *S4 
birdie on 28004.5 kHz* measured by K3


test 1:
- Changing ANT connector on K3: birdie gone.
- Change antennaconnected on K3 back: birdie S4 again
- Change to other antennaconnectors on KAT500 makes very little 
difference: 0.3dB Measured on dBV meter of K3 with AGC off
- Disconnecting the elecraft interface cables makes NO difference. Keep 
them disconnected for further tests.


test 2:
- Switch off KAT500 (hold mode switch): birdie drops 0.5dB
- Disconnect DC from KAT500: birdie is gone. (proof that is has to do 
with the KAT500)


test 3:
- KAT500 switched on again
- Connect dummyload on ANT 1 of KAT500 with KAT500 on: birdielevel goes 
UP +2dB (as compared to no dummyload connected in tests 1 and 2). 
S-meter now now has gone up to S5.

- then switch off KAT500: birdielevel drops DOWN  -10.5dB
- switch off KAT500: birdie gone

Can anyone reproduce this?

I have not checked all other frequencies, so this might be the only one. 
Still this is a birdie that I cannot ignore.


73
Arie PA3A




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 producing S4-5-birdie on 28004.5

2013-06-29 Thread Anthony Scandurra
Arie,

Please see the firmware release notes here:

http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm

73, Tony K4QE


On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Hi all,

 KAT500 + KPA500 connected to K3 through coax and elecraft interfacecables.
 NO antenna connected to KAT500 (all 3 connectors open)
 KAT500 and K3 connected to same DC-supply.

 KPA500 off (AC cord disconnected)

 Results:
 KAT500 switched on, Mode = auto, ANT = 1, no antenna connected: *S4 birdie
 on 28004.5 kHz* measured by K3

 test 1:
 - Changing ANT connector on K3: birdie gone.
 - Change antennaconnected on K3 back: birdie S4 again
 - Change to other antennaconnectors on KAT500 makes very little
 difference: 0.3dB Measured on dBV meter of K3 with AGC off
 - Disconnecting the elecraft interface cables makes NO difference. Keep
 them disconnected for further tests.

 test 2:
 - Switch off KAT500 (hold mode switch): birdie drops 0.5dB
 - Disconnect DC from KAT500: birdie is gone. (proof that is has to do with
 the KAT500)

 test 3:
 - KAT500 switched on again
 - Connect dummyload on ANT 1 of KAT500 with KAT500 on: birdielevel goes UP
 +2dB (as compared to no dummyload connected in tests 1 and 2). S-meter now
 now has gone up to S5.
 - then switch off KAT500: birdielevel drops DOWN  -10.5dB
 - switch off KAT500: birdie gone

 Can anyone reproduce this?

 I have not checked all other frequencies, so this might be the only one.
 Still this is a birdie that I cannot ignore.

 73
 Arie PA3A




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 producing S4-5-birdie on 28004.5

2013-06-29 Thread K1GQ
Aire,

Yes, that spurious signal on 28.004.5 is real and generated within the KAT500. 
Recent KAT500 beta firmware optionally shuts off an oscillator inside the 
KAT500 to suppress the spur. The oscillator is automatically turned back on by 
a number of events, such as pressing a button or transmitting.

The oscillator is also turned on by activity on the KAT500 serial port, which 
means that software like mine that polls the KAT500 to keep track of antenna 
port selection also keeps that spur alive. Sigh.

  Bill, K1GQ

On 2013.06.29, at 07:02, Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 KAT500 + KPA500 connected to K3 through coax and elecraft interfacecables. NO 
 antenna connected to KAT500 (all 3 connectors open)
 KAT500 and K3 connected to same DC-supply.
 
 KPA500 off (AC cord disconnected)
 
 Results:
 KAT500 switched on, Mode = auto, ANT = 1, no antenna connected: *S4 birdie on 
 28004.5 kHz* measured by K3
 
 test 1:
 - Changing ANT connector on K3: birdie gone.
 - Change antennaconnected on K3 back: birdie S4 again
 - Change to other antennaconnectors on KAT500 makes very little difference: 
 0.3dB Measured on dBV meter of K3 with AGC off
 - Disconnecting the elecraft interface cables makes NO difference. Keep them 
 disconnected for further tests.
 
 test 2:
 - Switch off KAT500 (hold mode switch): birdie drops 0.5dB
 - Disconnect DC from KAT500: birdie is gone. (proof that is has to do with 
 the KAT500)
 
 test 3:
 - KAT500 switched on again
 - Connect dummyload on ANT 1 of KAT500 with KAT500 on: birdielevel goes UP 
 +2dB (as compared to no dummyload connected in tests 1 and 2). S-meter now 
 now has gone up to S5.
 - then switch off KAT500: birdielevel drops DOWN  -10.5dB
 - switch off KAT500: birdie gone
 
 Can anyone reproduce this?
 
 I have not checked all other frequencies, so this might be the only one. 
 Still this is a birdie that I cannot ignore.
 
 73
 Arie PA3A
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 producing S4-5-birdie on 28004.5

2013-06-29 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A

Thanks for all info on the KAT500 beta FW.

Sorry, I was not aware that the problem had been bypassed in a beta version.
Am a new KAT / KPA 500 user.

73
Arie PA3A
K3 #1255


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 producing S4-5-birdie on 28004.5

2013-06-29 Thread Arthur Nienhouse
/*Aire my KAT500 antenna tuner has the same issue with the signal on 
28.004.5


Regards
Art
ka9zap

*/




On 6/29/2013 6:11 AM, K1GQ wrote:

Aire,

Yes, that spurious signal on 28.004.5 is real and generated within the KAT500. 
Recent KAT500 beta firmware optionally shuts off an oscillator inside the 
KAT500 to suppress the spur. The oscillator is automatically turned back on by 
a number of events, such as pressing a button or transmitting.

The oscillator is also turned on by activity on the KAT500 serial port, which 
means that software like mine that polls the KAT500 to keep track of antenna 
port selection also keeps that spur alive. Sigh.

   Bill, K1GQ

On 2013.06.29, at 07:02, Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl wrote:


Hi all,

KAT500 + KPA500 connected to K3 through coax and elecraft interfacecables. NO 
antenna connected to KAT500 (all 3 connectors open)
KAT500 and K3 connected to same DC-supply.

KPA500 off (AC cord disconnected)

Results:
KAT500 switched on, Mode = auto, ANT = 1, no antenna connected: *S4 birdie on 
28004.5 kHz* measured by K3

test 1:
- Changing ANT connector on K3: birdie gone.
- Change antennaconnected on K3 back: birdie S4 again
- Change to other antennaconnectors on KAT500 makes very little difference: 
0.3dB Measured on dBV meter of K3 with AGC off
- Disconnecting the elecraft interface cables makes NO difference. Keep them 
disconnected for further tests.

test 2:
- Switch off KAT500 (hold mode switch): birdie drops 0.5dB
- Disconnect DC from KAT500: birdie is gone. (proof that is has to do with the 
KAT500)

test 3:
- KAT500 switched on again
- Connect dummyload on ANT 1 of KAT500 with KAT500 on: birdielevel goes UP +2dB 
(as compared to no dummyload connected in tests 1 and 2). S-meter now now has 
gone up to S5.
- then switch off KAT500: birdielevel drops DOWN  -10.5dB
- switch off KAT500: birdie gone

Can anyone reproduce this?

I have not checked all other frequencies, so this might be the only one. Still 
this is a birdie that I cannot ignore.

73
Arie PA3A




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