Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 vs. Others

2011-06-23 Thread Ian Kahn
All,

I know I started this thread, but it has gone way off topic.  I merely was
looking for why the KPA500 is technically superior to comparable, less
expensive, solid state amps by other manufacturers.  There has become too
much discussion now on why we should or shouldn't use amps, QRP/QRO, etc.

Let's kill this thread here and now so that Wayne and Erik don't have to get
involved.

Thank you to everyone for your input.

73,

Ian Kahn, AK4IK
Roswell, GA
K3 #281, P3 #688
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[Elecraft] KPA500 vs others

2011-06-21 Thread r miles

Others can  argue the tech. advantages pro or con. Some feel they need 
2 KW. I don't.. For a DXer antennas  skill are more important than a 
few more watts.  I like the way it  works with  my K3. I've had less 
than stellar dealings with the Asian companies. Whether it's bias on my 
part or not I like the idea that it's made  serviced in my home 
country.

On a more human  note. I grew up as a new ham in 1959 at 13 yr.s old.  I 
had the thrill of  at least once  having used  the dream lines of the 
time.  The Collins  Drake lines. I wasn't in the position  to own one. 
I am now   I see the K line  as the dream line. I now have a dream 
line. There ain't no  way on Gods Green Earth  I'm not going to live  my 
dream. Soap Box over.

K9IL
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[Elecraft] KPA500 vs others

2011-06-21 Thread ai6ii
Ditto Except in my case I was 16 in 1963 when first licensed and I have
less in the way of DXer antennas and much less in DXer skills (although I am
getting better). The K-line is my Collins substitute. I had to buy an LDG
AT-1000Pro to handle the KPA500, so I won't really have a complete K-line
until the new autotuner becomes available.
 
Just worked J48O a couple of daze ago. I know, not big DX, but for me
yep it is.
 
..mike AI6II
 
Others can  argue the tech. advantages pro or con. Some feel they need 

2 KW. I don't.. For a DXer antennas  skill are more important than a 

few more watts.  I like the way it  works with  my K3. I've had less 

than stellar dealings with the Asian companies. Whether it's bias on my 

part or not I like the idea that it's made  serviced in my home 

country.



On a more human  note. I grew up as a new ham in 1959 at 13 yr.s old.  I 

had the thrill of  at least once  having used  the dream lines of the 

time.  The Collins  Drake lines. I wasn't in the position  to own one. 

I am now   I see the K line  as the dream line. I now have a dream 

line. There ain't no  way on Gods Green Earth  I'm not going to live  my 

dream. Soap Box over.



K9IL
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 vs others

2011-06-21 Thread k6rb
For me it was 1958, age 11. My first station was a Viking Adventurer and
HQ-110 (had it for 12 years). Never touched anything more sophisticated
until I upgraded (in 1970) to an HW-100 (used it for 12 years, too). In
the early 1990s, I got into restoring and operating vintage gear. I had
several stations on the air, sharing an antenna system. Viking
Valiant/NC-303; Viking Ranger/HQ-170; Viking Adventurer/HQ-110; Eico
720/730/722 with Drake 2B/2BQ; Collins S-Line with 30L-1; Globe King
500/75A-4. So, I finally had a chance to try all the radios over which I
had salivated as a teenager. Today, the only remaining jewels are Globe
King 500/75A-4.

With regard to amplifiers, unlike transceivers, you're only dealing with
one of two directions - output. Issues like efficiency are important but
probably more important are issues of clean output and reliability. This
is especially true for contest use where the amplifier can be pounded for
48 hours, straight, at maximum power out and greater than 50 percent duty
cycle.

I am currently using an Alpha 87A and Ten-Tec Centurion in an SO2R set up.
Both work well, and work reliably. If I replace either with a KPA-500, it
will probably be the Centurion. Here, the KPA-500 has the instant
switching/instant tuning advantage. But, it runs half the power. It also
covers 6 meter - a band I have never tried, and for which I have no
antenna(s). I have no doubt about reliability or service responsiveness
when it comes to Elecraft. So, it will come down to how much is instant
bandswitch/instant tuning worth to me. And, will I miss the extra few dB
in signal strength. I have not even considered replacing the Centurion
with alternative solid-state amps from Ameritron, Tokyo Hy-Power, or the
one from Italy.

Rob K6RB


 Ditto Except in my case I was 16 in 1963 when first licensed and I
 have
 less in the way of DXer antennas and much less in DXer skills (although I
 am
 getting better). The K-line is my Collins substitute. I had to buy an LDG
 AT-1000Pro to handle the KPA500, so I won't really have a complete K-line
 until the new autotuner becomes available.

 Just worked J48O a couple of daze ago. I know, not big DX, but for me
 yep it is.

 ..mike AI6II

 Others can  argue the tech. advantages pro or con. Some feel they need

 2 KW. I don't.. For a DXer antennas  skill are more important than a

 few more watts.  I like the way it  works with  my K3. I've had less

 than stellar dealings with the Asian companies. Whether it's bias on my

 part or not I like the idea that it's made  serviced in my home

 country.



 On a more human  note. I grew up as a new ham in 1959 at 13 yr.s old.  I

 had the thrill of  at least once  having used  the dream lines of the

 time.  The Collins  Drake lines. I wasn't in the position  to own one.

 I am now   I see the K line  as the dream line. I now have a dream

 line. There ain't no  way on Gods Green Earth  I'm not going to live  my

 dream. Soap Box over.



 K9IL
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[Elecraft] KPA500 vs others

2011-06-21 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Mike and others,

As mentioned in my previous emails in this reflector, I am awaiting KAT500 so 
that I will know the total cost of KPA500+KAT500.  LDG tuner may not meet my 
requirements in 6 metre

I have no worry about Elecraft's competence to give us good performers but the 
following issues hinder my decision in favour of KPA500:

1.     Hams usually have more than 1 radio.  I have the big Icoms and K3.  
Therefore, I need a linear amplifier with at least two inputs for two radios;
2.    Again, we often have more than 1 antenna but KPA500 has only one RF 
output 
for 1 antenna.  I believe the KAT500 will accommodate more antenna with 
memories 
per antenna per band.  Therefore, I need to wait for more information about 
KAT500.

In city area of Hong Kong, property prices are not much less than that in 
downtown Manhattan, NYC.  We do not have the luxury in space for every radio 
having its own dedicated linear amplifier.

TNX  73, 


Johnny VR2XMC 





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Ditto Except in my case I was 16 in 1963 when first licensed and I have
less in the way of DXer antennas and much less in DXer skills (although I am
getting better). The K-line is my Collins substitute. I had to buy an LDG
AT-1000Pro to handle the KPA500, so I won't really have a complete K-line
until the new autotuner becomes available.

Just worked J48O a couple of daze ago. I know, not big DX, but for me
yep it is.

..mike AI6II
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