[Elecraft] Kx3 Paddles spring adjustment?
Is there an adjustment for the spring tension? I am spoiled by my Begali and these feel like I am lifting weights. -- Buck k4ia K3 # 101 KX3 #715 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
How about a top that is fastened to different drilled screw holes on a base mounting. The operator uses the screw holes that suit the angle desired. Not so difficult as a detent. 73, Guy. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: They are detachable. They could be designed to flip left or right, but it would be very difficult to make one that has three detented positions. It's complicated by the angle of the unit when the tilt feet are deployed. Wayne On May 23, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Igor Kosvin wrote: I assume this is not out of realm of possibility to design paddles that can rotate and click in three positions: 45 degrees to the right, 90 degrees and 45 degrees to the left. There is still about one left handed for every 10 right handed on this planet! It also make sense to make them de-touchable to reduce risk of breaking when the unit is transported. 73, Igor, N1YX -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Cutter Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:31 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Ralph Parker Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles I agree. I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and fingers to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to the paddle. Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another problem which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my right stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has to be held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite quickly. I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea on a netbook is definitely a deal maker. David G3UNA One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45 degree mounting of the paddles - VERY practical! I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use on a table regardless of your 'handedness'. But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
Wayne Burdick wrote: Note that the KX3 also has a jack for a keyer/paddle/handkey/etc. of your choice. It can be used simultaneously with the attached paddle, too. Will the KX3 development phase be an opportunity to add more facilities to the keyer firmware, and feed them back into the K3 as well? Compared to all the other facilities of the K3, the internal keyer remains rather ordinary. Even a $6 K1EL chip has *many* more options. Keying is very much a personal preference, and some operators would like to use other modes besides Curtis A and B without being forced to use an external keyer (and lose the facility to send RTTY and data from the paddle). I'm not suggesting cloning the entire feature set of an external keyer, but the K1EL keyers would be a good roadmap for enhancements. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
Here's how I do it with a Palm Paddle for portable operations: www.ad5x.com/images/Articles/PalmBase.pdf Another possibility is to use a light-weight paddle mounted on a plate that your sending hand rests on. http://n1al.net/ham/paddle.htm The weight of your hand keeps it from moving. Al N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
Phil Debbie Salas schrieb am 24 May 2011 um 6:40: Here's how I do it with a Palm Paddle for portable operations: www.ad5x.com/images/Articles/PalmBase.pdf I have built the Palmradio IR receiver into the K3 for wireless operation. http://www.oe9fwv.shacknet.nu/oe9fwv/K3/Palmpaddle_K3.pdf description is in german, but with many pictures. 73! Werner oe9fwv -- The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist. Email powered by Pegasus Mail free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/ Fone +43 5522 75013 Fax +43 5522 22505 Mobile +43 664 6340014 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
I would certainly like to see Ultramatic 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #??? -- In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? On 24 May 2011, at 11:12, Ian White GM3SEK wrote: Wayne Burdick wrote: Note that the KX3 also has a jack for a keyer/paddle/handkey/etc. of your choice. It can be used simultaneously with the attached paddle, too. Will the KX3 development phase be an opportunity to add more facilities to the keyer firmware, and feed them back into the K3 as well? Compared to all the other facilities of the K3, the internal keyer remains rather ordinary. Even a $6 K1EL chip has *many* more options. Keying is very much a personal preference, and some operators would like to use other modes besides Curtis A and B without being forced to use an external keyer (and lose the facility to send RTTY and data from the paddle). I'm not suggesting cloning the entire feature set of an external keyer, but the K1EL keyers would be a good roadmap for enhancements. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
sorry for the typo. the www was to much http://oe9fwv.shacknet.nu/oe9fwv/K3/Palmpaddle_K3.pdf Pierfrancesco Caci schrieb am 24 May 2011 um 21:49: Werner == Werner Furlan fur...@gmx.net writes: Werner http://oe9fwv.shacknet.nu/oe9fwv/K3/Palmpaddle_K3.pdf the link doesn't work :( -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx -- Dain bramaged. Email powered by Pegasus Mail free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/ Fone +43 5522 75013 Fax +43 5522 22505 Mobile +43 664 6340014 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45 degree mounting of the paddles - VERY practical! I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use on a table regardless of your 'handedness'. But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
The rig itself can be rotated just slightly to position the paddle appropriately (about 15 degrees to the left for a right-handed operator). In practice this works so well that we're sticking with 90 degrees for now. An angled paddle could also be designed if there were demand for it. There were no complaints among testers at Dayton, and I've been using it like this for a week. Wayne http://www.elecraft.com On May 23, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Ralph Parker ve...@dccnet.com wrote: One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45 degree mounting of the paddles - VERY practical! I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use on a table regardless of your 'handedness'. But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
I agree. I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and fingers to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to the paddle. Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another problem which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my right stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has to be held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite quickly. I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea on a netbook is definitely a deal maker. David G3UNA One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45 degree mounting of the paddles - VERY practical! I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use on a table regardless of your 'handedness'. But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
Note that the KX3 also has a jack for a keyer/paddle/handkey/etc. of your choice. It can be used simultaneously with the attached paddle, too. Wayne N6KR On May 23, 2011, at 9:31 PM, David Cutter wrote: I agree. I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and fingers to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to the paddle. Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another problem which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my right stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has to be held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite quickly. I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea on a netbook is definitely a deal maker. David G3UNA One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45 degree mounting of the paddles - VERY practical! I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use on a table regardless of your 'handedness'. But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
The great thing about being part of the rig is that the weight of the rig holds the paddle down, keeping the overall weight of the portable station down by quite a lot. My paddle is quite heavy. I once fitted a paddle inside a Norcal 20 just because my usual paddle weighed more than the rig! David G3UNA Note that the KX3 also has a jack for a keyer/paddle/handkey/etc. of your choice. It can be used simultaneously with the attached paddle, too. Wayne N6KR On May 23, 2011, at 9:31 PM, David Cutter wrote: I agree. I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and fingers to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to the paddle. Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another problem which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my right stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has to be held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite quickly. I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea on a netbook is definitely a deal maker. David G3UNA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
I assume this is not out of realm of possibility to design paddles that can rotate and click in three positions: 45 degrees to the right, 90 degrees and 45 degrees to the left. There is still about one left handed for every 10 right handed on this planet! It also make sense to make them de-touchable to reduce risk of breaking when the unit is transported. 73, Igor, N1YX -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Cutter Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:31 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Ralph Parker Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles I agree. I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and fingers to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to the paddle. Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another problem which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my right stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has to be held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite quickly. I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea on a netbook is definitely a deal maker. David G3UNA One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45 degree mounting of the paddles - VERY practical! I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use on a table regardless of your 'handedness'. But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
They are detachable. They could be designed to flip left or right, but it would be very difficult to make one that has three detented positions. It's complicated by the angle of the unit when the tilt feet are deployed. Wayne On May 23, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Igor Kosvin wrote: I assume this is not out of realm of possibility to design paddles that can rotate and click in three positions: 45 degrees to the right, 90 degrees and 45 degrees to the left. There is still about one left handed for every 10 right handed on this planet! It also make sense to make them de-touchable to reduce risk of breaking when the unit is transported. 73, Igor, N1YX -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Cutter Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:31 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Ralph Parker Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles I agree. I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and fingers to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to the paddle. Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another problem which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my right stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has to be held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite quickly. I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea on a netbook is definitely a deal maker. David G3UNA One of the things that impressed me a lot about the KX1 was the 45 degree mounting of the paddles - VERY practical! I see the KX3 pictured with 90 degree paddles, equally hard to use on a table regardless of your 'handedness'. But then, it IS only a prototype, isn't it? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3: Paddles
Another possibility is to use a light-weight paddle mounted on a plate that your sending hand rests on. http://n1al.net/ham/paddle.htm The weight of your hand keeps it from moving. Al N1AL On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 05:52 +0100, David Cutter wrote: The great thing about being part of the rig is that the weight of the rig holds the paddle down, keeping the overall weight of the portable station down by quite a lot. My paddle is quite heavy. I once fitted a paddle inside a Norcal 20 just because my usual paddle weighed more than the rig! David G3UNA Note that the KX3 also has a jack for a keyer/paddle/handkey/etc. of your choice. It can be used simultaneously with the attached paddle, too. Wayne N6KR On May 23, 2011, at 9:31 PM, David Cutter wrote: I agree. I prefer my arm to lie at 90 to the table and my wrist and fingers to follow in a straight line for minimum stress, maximum comfort to the paddle. Rotating the rig 15 would help a lot. But I have another problem which is that I often operate the tune with my left hand while my right stays put on the paddle, so, with this arrangement, my left hand has to be held up and across me, which I think I would find uncomfortable quite quickly. I don't think it's a deal breaker and the panadaptor idea on a netbook is definitely a deal maker. David G3UNA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
