Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-13 Thread Dave B via Elecraft
Don't forget ...

    sudo apt install curl

on a command line, If you find it errors trying to get the firmware
updates from Elecraft.


Also, it's just:-

    file kx3util

on a command line, from within the directory where the "target" file
(kx3util) is, to find out it's details.

dave@G0WBX-Dell-System-XPS-L502X ~/Elecraft/kx3util_1_14_4_11 $ file kx3util
kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

(an older version of the utility.)

73.

Dave G0WBX (currently using Mint 17.2 32 bit.)



On 12/06/18 15:11, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version
> Message-ID: <6574d2ac-395d-4538-9761-7a53b5cea...@sy-edm.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> KX3 Utils
>
> I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).
>
> I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type
>
> mkdir /elecraft 
> chdir /elecraft
> wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz  
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
> cd kx3util_1_16_6_25
>
> Now to see what this file is 
>
> file file kx3util
>
> I get the following output?.
>
> kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), 
> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, 
> stripped
>
> Ok  - it is a 32bit Image? So it will not run. 
>
> Here?s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding 
> some needed libs
>
> dpkg --add-architecture i386
> apt-get update 
> apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
> Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links 
> (because I added the the i386 libs)
>
> ldd kx3util
>   linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
>   libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
>   libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
>   libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf763)
>   libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
>   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
>   libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
>   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)
>
> Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.
>
> Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script for 
> this.
>
>
> FROM ubuntu:16.04
> MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com
>
> #Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
> #by adding i386 lib references
> #It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
> #
> #Suggested Build:
> #docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
> #
> #Suggested Run:
> #docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
> run apt-get update && \
> apt-get install wget -y
>
> run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
> apt-get update && \
> mkdir /elecraft && \
> chdir /elecraft && \
> wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz 
> && \
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
> apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
>   Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-13 Thread Dave B via Elecraft
Don't let a few idiots put you off Linux.

Look into the linux...@groups.io mailing list (the home of Fldigi etc)
Lots of GOOD help on there, by many who remember our initial frustration
with it all.  (Some Elecraft users there too.)

As to one OS vs another.  Linux is different, that is all.

Do any of you remember when you first started using Windows or Mac*?
I'll bet that was just as frustrating and confusing then, as if you
expect to "just jump in, and survive" with Linux (or BSD, or MacOS)
these days.

(* Has to be said, that back in the Steve Jobs days, the UI was truly a
work of art, you didn't need instructions.  Since his sad demise, it's
all gone a bit Pete Tong.)

As others have said, it is possible to have a PC that will boot it's
original OS (Windows or Mac) or one or more versions of Linux (or any
other OS) so you can choose at boot time what you want.

Yes, there are several well known Ham Radio programs that have no
"Direct equivalent" Linux version, but there is other equaly good
software native to Linux that will do the same job.  Mostly.

There are also some that have no equivalent, or even anything close
(sadly.)   Some of them will run under WINE, some wont.

But, unless you use them all the time every day, you won't need them
most of the time.  (Thinking here of Motorola DMR programming software
as an example.)  In such cases, just boot into Windows, get that job
done, then if needed reboot back into Linux (or whatever) and carry on.

If you want to just get your toes wet, without risk of corrupting or
bricking your main PC, get another, or even a Raspberry Pi, to
experiment on.  The Pi's are good, as the whole OS etc fits on one SD
card.  If you mess it up, it's trivial to wipe and start over.

The latest Pi's are really good and powerful machines too, much more
than you'd expect from something of it's size, and at the price, can't
be beat.

Dont give up.  Keep moving.  Explore the pre-built packages first,
before trying to learn how to compile stuf from source.

But when ready, get onto the Fldigi wiki, and follow the build
instructions there, to build and install the latest Fldigi etc.
http://www.w1hkj.com/doku/doku.php?id=start

If needed, ask on linuxham.io for assistance, and it will be given.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

(KX3, TS870s, FT736r, Mostly Linux these days, but still use Windows at
work.)


On 12/06/18 15:11, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
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> 
> Re:?? "if you don't understand the language, go away".
> 
> THANK YOU, DON!!!
> 
> I agree with your entire post.? I have actually asked for help in forums, and 
> the responders have made typos what they tell me to type, and then they brow 
> beat me because they made a mistake.? One of them actually said, "You should 
> have known what I meant to type!"? YIKES!? Not exactly a friendly community.
> 
> Every time I think about switching to Linux, it doesn't take me long to 
> reconsider.? Way too many hours are spent trying to make things work.? It 
> just isn't worth the trouble.
> 
> Mark
> KE6BB
> 
> null

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread George Pasek
Ok, here’s what was sent to me to get the 32 bit KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz 
installed on Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition 18.3  64-bit.  
Now the KX3 Utility is running.
tnx to all that responded.
de  George
WD0AKZ
dit – dit
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Try these suggestions to get 32-bit running.

*  Dependencies for use with Elecraft Linux-based Utilities 


1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions 

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and require installing 32-bit 
compatiblity libraries on 64-bit distros that will allow 32-bit apps to run. 




On Unbuntu 14 and later based distros:

sudo apt-get install libwebkitgtk-1.0.0:i386

sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk-module:i386

sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 
libglib2.0-0:i386 libsoup2.4-1:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386

2) cURL must be installed on your Linux distro for FTP

You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have it 
pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure your DialOut groups are set up properly

Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have 
read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot 
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy way 
to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group.

sudo adduser username dialout

4) All files and directories included in the gzipped tar file must be kept 
together in the same location. The "Help directory", "Libs" directory (ie 
k3util Libs), and executable binary (ie k3util) must all be located together in 
the same directory. 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Simultaneous Perioheral Opeations On Line.   :)

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 21:23 Mike Markowski  wrote:

> I don't reach as far back as bus & tag pairs, but I'm with you, Rich.
> :-)  TOPS-10, MCP, VMS, and the best - Unix!  A picture I shared here
> recently of a fun little retro computer recreation:
>
>http://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/
>
> Running the original os/8.  Fun stuff.
>
> SPOOL...system peripheral  off line.  Almost!
>
> 73,
> Mike ab3ap
>
> On 06/12/2018 09:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
> > Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
> > Google-fu.
> >
> > I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a
> bunch
> > of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread Mike Markowski
I don't reach as far back as bus & tag pairs, but I'm with you, Rich. 
:-)  TOPS-10, MCP, VMS, and the best - Unix!  A picture I shared here 
recently of a fun little retro computer recreation:


  http://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/

Running the original os/8.  Fun stuff.

SPOOL...system peripheral  off line.  Almost!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 06/12/2018 09:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
Google-fu.

I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread kevinr

special processing output online



On 06/12/2018 06:08 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
Google-fu.

I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 13:17 Fred Jensen  wrote:


I've migrated through several OS worlds over the decades.  IBM's
universe had a significant amount of acronyms that required careful
tongue maneuvers to pronounce ... "DASD" was one of the easiest, as was
"ISAM" ["Incredibly Slow Access Method"].  EB-se-dick, a little harder.
Eventually, Unix became essential and I grep-ped and glob-bed, and
struggled with regular expressions about as much as I had to with
partial differential equations.  When I retired, I decided to learn how
to read Russian with all the free time I was going to have.  Russian was
much easier than Unix.  The free time never materialized.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 6/11/2018 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words,
don't use Linux.
I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom
language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not
deserve to be part of our culture.
Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages,
it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain
text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only
understood by Windows geeks.
I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums
saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language
is a thing unto itself.
Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process
difficulty, but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work
well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests
to enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results"
and be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding
the language.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread rich hurd WC3T
Brownie points if you know what SPOOL meant. Without resorting to
Google-fu.

I'm still a green-screen guy at heart.  Give me a raised floor and a bunch
of bus and tag pairs, and I'm in heaven.

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 13:17 Fred Jensen  wrote:

> I've migrated through several OS worlds over the decades.  IBM's
> universe had a significant amount of acronyms that required careful
> tongue maneuvers to pronounce ... "DASD" was one of the easiest, as was
> "ISAM" ["Incredibly Slow Access Method"].  EB-se-dick, a little harder.
> Eventually, Unix became essential and I grep-ped and glob-bed, and
> struggled with regular expressions about as much as I had to with
> partial differential equations.  When I retired, I decided to learn how
> to read Russian with all the free time I was going to have.  Russian was
> much easier than Unix.  The free time never materialized.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 6/11/2018 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> > If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words,
> > don't use Linux.
> > I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom
> > language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not
> > deserve to be part of our culture.
> > Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages,
> > it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
> > Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain
> > text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only
> > understood by Windows geeks.
> > I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums
> > saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
> > I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language
> > is a thing unto itself.
> > Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process
> > difficulty, but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
> > If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work
> > well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests
> > to enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results"
> > and be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding
> > the language.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread Fred Jensen
I've migrated through several OS worlds over the decades.  IBM's 
universe had a significant amount of acronyms that required careful 
tongue maneuvers to pronounce ... "DASD" was one of the easiest, as was 
"ISAM" ["Incredibly Slow Access Method"].  EB-se-dick, a little harder.  
Eventually, Unix became essential and I grep-ped and glob-bed, and 
struggled with regular expressions about as much as I had to with 
partial differential equations.  When I retired, I decided to learn how 
to read Russian with all the free time I was going to have.  Russian was 
much easier than Unix.  The free time never materialized.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 6/11/2018 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words, 
don't use Linux.
I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom 
language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not 
deserve to be part of our culture.
Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages, 
it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain 
text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only 
understood by Windows geeks.
I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums 
saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language 
is a thing unto itself.
Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process 
difficulty, but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work 
well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests 
to enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results" 
and be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding 
the language.


73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread Edward R Cole
Just as "Life is  too short for QRP", Life is too short for devoting 
my retirement years to learning Linux.


It seems these days more hams are professional computer geeks but 
total amateurs with understanding RF.  Evidence: the growing 
population of wireless noise floor.  Some day they will be looking 
for some old bent over RF engineer to rescue their mess (aka Y2K).


Me?  Just a bent former mw engineer (of course).  Keep the faith, Don!
My first computer was a Comadore-64. Then a job in 1982 with the 
original PC (8080) and DOS 1.1.  Had to self-teach myself to program 
(BASIC) so I could do my job.  I'm pretty good a coding but that 
bores the sh*t out me.


At a job interview with IBM many, many years ago, when asked what i 
was interested in doing, I answered microwave engineering ... I 
didn't get the job with IBM (LOL).


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Amusing image...

Chuck
KE9UW


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:24 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

And THAT reminds me of a time when Aunt Matilda just got her pension check
and someone stole her purse.
Her niece explained to the local cop saying:  "That guy just stole my aunt's
pay".

The cop replied, " OK lady, cut the 'pig-latin' and tell me how it
happened".

Any of y'all old enough to understand that?

73, Charlie k3ICH




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Reminds me of the kids in grade school who encrypted their conversations so
nobody else felt welcome. Trouble is, the rest of us learned more by
communicating freely.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread Charlie T
And THAT reminds me of a time when Aunt Matilda just got her pension check
and someone stole her purse.
Her niece explained to the local cop saying:  "That guy just stole my aunt's
pay".

The cop replied, " OK lady, cut the 'pig-latin' and tell me how it
happened".

Any of y'all old enough to understand that?

73, Charlie k3ICH




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Reminds me of the kids in grade school who encrypted their conversations so
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Reminds me of the kids in grade school who encrypted their conversations so 
nobody else felt welcome. Trouble is, the rest of us learned more by 
communicating freely.

Chuck
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Jun 12, 2018, at 1:42 AM, Mark via Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
> Re:   "if you don't understand the language, go away".
> 
> THANK YOU, DON!!!
> 
> I agree with your entire post.  I have actually asked for help in forums, and 
> the responders have made typos what they tell me to type, and then they brow 
> beat me because they made a mistake.  One of them actually said, "You should 
> have known what I meant to type!"  YIKES!  Not exactly a friendly community.
> 
> Every time I think about switching to Linux, it doesn't take me long to 
> reconsider.  Way too many hours are spent trying to make things work.  It 
> just isn't worth the trouble.
> 
> Mark
> KE6BB
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread Paul Stoetzer
Or release it as source so it can be compiled and packaged for all
distributions.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:09 AM, James Austin  wrote:
> Perhaps Elecraft could compile this app in both 32-bit and 64-bit flavors.
>
> Dealing with this kind of Linux stuff is not something most people should
> have to do.
>
> Jim/KA2RVO
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:26 AM a45wg  wrote:
>
>> KX3 Utils
>>
>> I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).
>>
>> I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type
>>
>> mkdir /elecraft
>> chdir /elecraft
>> wget
>> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
>> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
>> cd kx3util_1_16_6_25
>>
>> Now to see what this file is
>>
>> file file kx3util
>>
>> I get the following output….
>>
>> kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0,
>> stripped
>>
>> Ok  - it is a 32bit Image… So it will not run.
>>
>> Here’s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding
>> some needed libs
>>
>> dpkg --add-architecture i386
>> apt-get update
>> apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>>
>> Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links
>> (because I added the the i386 libs)
>>
>> ldd kx3util
>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
>> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
>> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
>> (0xf763)
>> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
>> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
>> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)
>>
>> Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.
>>
>> Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script
>> for this.
>>
>>
>> FROM ubuntu:16.04
>> MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com
>>
>> #Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
>> #by adding i386 lib references
>> #It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
>> #
>> #Suggested Build:
>> #docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
>> #
>> #Suggested Run:
>> #docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
>> run apt-get update && \
>> apt-get install wget -y
>>
>> run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
>> apt-get update && \
>> mkdir /elecraft && \
>> chdir /elecraft && \
>> wget
>> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
>> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
>> apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread James Austin
Perhaps Elecraft could compile this app in both 32-bit and 64-bit flavors.

Dealing with this kind of Linux stuff is not something most people should
have to do.

Jim/KA2RVO

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:26 AM a45wg  wrote:

> KX3 Utils
>
> I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).
>
> I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type
>
> mkdir /elecraft
> chdir /elecraft
> wget
> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
> cd kx3util_1_16_6_25
>
> Now to see what this file is
>
> file file kx3util
>
> I get the following output….
>
> kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0,
> stripped
>
> Ok  - it is a 32bit Image… So it will not run.
>
> Here’s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding
> some needed libs
>
> dpkg --add-architecture i386
> apt-get update
> apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
> Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links
> (because I added the the i386 libs)
>
> ldd kx3util
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6
> (0xf763)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)
>
> Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.
>
> Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script
> for this.
>
>
> FROM ubuntu:16.04
> MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com
>
> #Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
> #by adding i386 lib references
> #It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
> #
> #Suggested Build:
> #docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
> #
> #Suggested Run:
> #docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
> run apt-get update && \
> apt-get install wget -y
>
> run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
> apt-get update && \
> mkdir /elecraft && \
> chdir /elecraft && \
> wget
> http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
> tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
> apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread a45wg
KX3 Utils

I am running a totally basic Ubuntu Environment (64 bit).

I will get the KX3 Utils, extract and check the file type

mkdir /elecraft 
chdir /elecraft
wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz  
tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz
cd kx3util_1_16_6_25

Now to see what this file is 

file file kx3util

I get the following output….

kx3util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically 
linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped

Ok  - it is a 32bit Image… So it will not run. 

Here’s how to fix it, by  adding the i386 Package ability, and then adding some 
needed libs

dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update 
apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386

Now if I check the file kx3util I can see it has resolved the i386 links 
(because I added the the i386 libs)

ldd kx3util
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf77d)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf77c4000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf77a7000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf763)
libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf75db000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf75be000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf7407000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf77d1000)

Hope that is a slightly clearer instruction.

Should you want to automate this using Docker, this is the docker script for 
this.


FROM ubuntu:16.04
MAINTAINER a4...@sy-edm.com

#Purpose of this project is test KX3 util
#by adding i386 lib references
#It will pull the elecraft kx3 utility into /elecraft
#
#Suggested Build:
#docker -t test/kx3:1.0 dockerfile
#
#Suggested Run:
#docker run -it test/kx3:1.0
run apt-get update && \
apt-get install wget -y

run dpkg --add-architecture i386 && \
apt-get update && \
mkdir /elecraft && \
chdir /elecraft && \
wget http://www.elecraft.com/software/KX3/KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
tar -zxvf KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz && \
apt-get install -y libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386



Best regards

Tim, A45WG => DU3/M0FGC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-12 Thread Mark via Elecraft
Re:   "if you don't understand the language, go away".

THANK YOU, DON!!!

I agree with your entire post.  I have actually asked for help in forums, and 
the responders have made typos what they tell me to type, and then they brow 
beat me because they made a mistake.  One of them actually said, "You should 
have known what I meant to type!"  YIKES!  Not exactly a friendly community.

Every time I think about switching to Linux, it doesn't take me long to 
reconsider.  Way too many hours are spent trying to make things work.  It just 
isn't worth the trouble.

Mark
KE6BB

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread Michael Eberle

oops,  I meant sudo/sbin/ldconfig -v


On 6/12/2018 00:24, Michael Eberle wrote:

Go to a terminal window and issue the command: sudo /sbin/ldcongig v

This solved that problem for me.

73
Mike KI0HA

On 6/11/2018 21:54, George Pasek wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion Chris.  The response was:
./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: 
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.


So it looks like it is a library issue.



tnx

George


From: Chris Hallinan
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:35 AM
To: pasek...@umn.edu
Cc: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the 
executable is, and try to execute it manually by typing "./execname" 
(don't forget the dot slash)


that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you 
execute through a file manager by clicking on the icon.


It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

   I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now 
that I have
   Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit 
installed as
   dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of 
the KX3
   Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted 
it to a
   Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as 
well as a
   Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or 
attempt to
   launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or 
warnings.


   I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft
   Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, 
libstdc++.so.6

   and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries"
   requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit 
but comes
   with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible 
with 32 bit
   programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I 
saw, and a

   Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.

   I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right
   direction I'd really like to get it installed.

   tnx for the help.

   de George
   WD0AKZ
   dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread Andy Yates

Looks like a "typo" to me,  : instead of L.

Andy W4KIL

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread Michael Eberle

Go to a terminal window and issue the command: sudo /sbin/ldcongig v

This solved that problem for me.

73
Mike KI0HA

On 6/11/2018 21:54, George Pasek wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion Chris.  The response was:
./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory.

So it looks like it is a library issue.



tnx

George


From: Chris Hallinan
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:35 AM
To: pasek...@umn.edu
Cc: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the executable is, and try to 
execute it manually by typing "./execname" (don't forget the dot slash)

that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you execute 
through a file manager by clicking on the icon.

It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

   I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I have
   Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as
   dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3
   Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a
   Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a
   Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to
   launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.

   I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft
   Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6
   and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries"
   requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes
   with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit
   programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and a
   Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.

   I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right
   direction I'd really like to get it installed.

   tnx for the help.

   de George
   WD0AKZ
   dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
If you are not good at deciphering cryptic messages with geek words, 
don't use Linux.
I do wish it were better, but Linux seems to be steeped in "geekdom 
language" - if you are not educated in the language, you do not deserve 
to be part of our culture.
Until Linux produces plain text language for errors and such messages, 
it will not be a major player in the computer operating systems.
Windows has its share of cryptic messages, but at least it is in plain 
text and does not often refer to "gobbledygook" that is only understood 
by Windows geeks.
I have tried Linux and have been stiffed by questions to the forums 
saying essentially "if you don't understand the language, go away".
I am not a computer dummy - I understand DOS, but the Linux language is 
a thing unto itself.
Ubuntu and Linux Mint have reduced the Linux install process difficulty, 
but have not tackled the cryptic messages that can result.
If you only want to do only email and web surfing, then Linux can work 
well for you, but anything else can be daunting with cryptic requests to 
enter a nonsensical string of commands for "who knows what results" and 
be shamed by the forum geeks who blame you for not understanding the 
language.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/11/2018 11:00 PM, George Pasek wrote:
./exec said: ./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Add Arch support
   sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
Followed by
    sudo apt-get update
    Hit:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
    Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease
    Hit:3 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
    Hit:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu 
xenial InRelease

    Hit:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
    Hit:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
    Ign:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia InRelease
    Hit:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia Release
    Reading package lists... Done
   sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information... Done
    E: Unable to locate package libstdc++6Li386
    E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libstdc++6Li386'

I think I'll just stick to Windows for now for Kx3 Utility.  Maybe in 
the future there will be a step-by-step install for us Linux dummies.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread George Pasek
./exec said: ./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Add Arch support
  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
Followed by
   sudo apt-get update
   Hit:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
   Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease
   Hit:3 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
   Hit:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net/dansmith/chirp-snapshots/ubuntu xenial 
InRelease

   Hit:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease
   Hit:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
   Ign:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia InRelease
   Hit:8 http://packages.linuxmint.com sylvia Release
   Reading package lists... Done
  sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386
   Reading package lists... Done
   Building dependency tree
   Reading state information... Done
   E: Unable to locate package libstdc++6Li386
   E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libstdc++6Li386'

I think I'll just stick to Windows for now for Kx3 Utility.  Maybe in the 
future there will be a step-by-step install for us Linux dummies.


tnx
George


-Original Message- 
From: a45wg

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:31 AM
To: George Pasek
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

George,

First check the app is 32 bit

 * ldd - will probably fail
 * ./exec - probably says No File
 * File info exec show it is i386 file

Add Arch support

  sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386

Followed by

   sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386

You may need the odd extrac package but you should be on your way (I hope 
with this)


Regards

Tim
A45WG



On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:26 PM, George Pasek  wrote:

I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I 
have Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed 
as dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3 
Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a 
Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a 
Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to 
launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.


I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft 
Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 
and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries" 
requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes 
with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit 
programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and 
a Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.


I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right 
direction I'd really like to get it installed.


tnx for the help.

de George
WD0AKZ
dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread George Pasek
Thanks for the suggestion Chris.  The response was:  
./kx3util: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory. 

So it looks like it is a library issue.



tnx

George 


From: Chris Hallinan 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 9:35 AM
To: pasek...@umn.edu 
Cc: mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the executable is, and 
try to execute it manually by typing "./execname" (don't forget the dot slash)  

that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you execute 
through a file manager by clicking on the icon.

It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

  I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I have 
  Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as 
  dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3 
  Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a 
  Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a 
  Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to 
  launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.

  I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft 
  Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 
  and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries" 
  requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes 
  with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit 
  programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and a 
  Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.

  I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right 
  direction I'd really like to get it installed.

  tnx for the help.

  de George
  WD0AKZ
  dit - dit


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread Bill
This, sadly, is the downfall of Linux. Nothing is easy! Linux mainstream 
versions such as Ubuntu and Mint are great systems - I run Mint dual 
boot with Win 10 here. That said, I use the Win 10 side for everything 
to do with my K-Line. I am spoiled, as are many others, by the ease of 
installation/operation of the software I use on a regular basis.


Further, some software I use is not replaceable under Linux. There is 
nothing up to the job available.


Wine is not the answer, as many Win programs will not properly run under 
Wine/Linux - if at all. Recently, there is also a problem with Wine 
itself - as being discussed on various Linux forums.


Personally, I would much prefer to run Linux 100% - for various reasons 
(mainly security). That said, until Linux is made much more friendly to 
the new user and the available software library drastically increases, 
it will never be more than a very minor player at the user level. Linux 
is, however, a major player in higher levels.


Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread Chris Hallinan
If you open an terminal, change directory 'cd' to where the executable is,
and try to execute it manually by typing "./execname" (don't forget the dot
slash)

that will expose any error messages that are not displayed when you execute
through a file manager by clicking on the icon.

It's probably a library issue.

Chris


On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:27 AM George Pasek  wrote:

> I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I
> have
> Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as
> dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3
> Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a
> Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a
> Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to
> launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.
>
> I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft
> Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6
> and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries"
> requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes
> with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit
> programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and
> a
> Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.
>
> I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right
> direction I'd really like to get it installed.
>
> tnx for the help.
>
> de George
> WD0AKZ
> dit - dit
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread a45wg
George,

First check the app is 32 bit

  * ldd - will probably fail
  * ./exec - probably says No File
  * File info exec show it is i386 file

Add Arch support

   sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386

Followed by

sudo apt-get update 
   sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6Li386

You may need the odd extrac package but you should be on your way (I hope with 
this)

Regards

Tim
A45WG


> On Jun 11, 2018, at 6:26 PM, George Pasek  wrote:
> 
> I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I have 
> Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as dual 
> boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3 Utility.  
> I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a Linux 
> folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a Kx3util 
> executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to launch it 
> via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.
> 
> I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft Utilities: 
>  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 and cURL. 
> 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries" requirements, and I 
> also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes with the 32 bit 
> libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit programs.  The 
> Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and a Google search on 
> Kx3util and Linux was no help.
> 
> I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right 
> direction I'd really like to get it installed.
> 
> tnx for the help.
> 
> de George
> WD0AKZ
> dit - dit
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] KX3 Utility Linux version

2018-06-11 Thread George Pasek
I have been using the Windows version of the KX3 Utility but now that I have 
Linux Mint ‘Sylvia’  Cinnamon Desktop edition  18.3  64-bit installed as 
dual boot with Windows 7 I want to install the Linux version of the KX3 
Utility.  I downloaded KX3UtilityLINUX_1_16_6_25.tgz and extracted it to a 
Linux folder.  It has a Help and Kx3util Libs sub directories as well as a 
Kx3util executable file.  If I click on the executable file or attempt to 
launch it via a desktop shortcut, nothing happens, no errors or warnings.


I did read the "Minimum Operating System Requirements for Elecraft 
Utilities:  X86-based Linux: GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, libstdc++.so.6 
and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 32-bit compatibility libraries" 
requirements, and I also read that my version of Linux is 64 bit but comes 
with the 32 bit libraries installed and is backward compatible with 32 bit 
programs.  The Help folder has nothing about installation that I saw, and a 
Google search on Kx3util and Linux was no help.


I'm sure I missed something so if someone could point me in the right 
direction I'd really like to get it installed.


tnx for the help.

de George
WD0AKZ
dit - dit


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[Elecraft] KX3 Utility (Linux version)

2013-05-23 Thread Dave B
Hi.

OK, KX3 kit has arrived, courtesy of a collegue who traveled to Dayton.  
(Thanks Tim.)  Not even emptied the box yet, as had domestic duties to 
deal with last night.  But, a long weekend coming up, so soon 
hopefully.

In preparation, I've downloaded the KX3 utility from the Elecraft site 
(Linux version as well as the Windows one.)

The Windows version installs and attempts to run, but hangs as it can't 
see (yet) a KX3 to play with.  Not the best policy needing the user to 
break out Task manager to kill it and regain control of the PC, but...


The Linux version, after taking advice from some people with vastly more 
experience in things Linux, still doesn't run.  It's complaining about 
being unable to find it's lib's.  Even starting it as root doesn't help.

Also, paths/filenames with spaces in, is a distint no-no in posix based 
systems in general, also the help folder has a lot of temporary file 
dross shipped as standard.  (That all works in the default browser by the 
way.)

Anyway...   So...

What is the **EXACT** procedure to Install that Linux version of 
KX3Utility, in Lubuntu?   What files go where, what permisions are needed 
etc etc.

Or, is there an open source version, as building/installing from source 
is usualy painless, even for me!

Though I have Windows machines in the shack, my diminutive Acer portable 
PC that will inevitably accompany the KX3, is Lubuntu based.

73.

Dave G0WBX.



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