[Elecraft] KX3 encoder

2016-05-23 Thread Szabó István
Could someone help me who is the manufacturer of the encoder? Elecraft 
shipping cost is extremely high, same value and size shipping  cost is 
about 20 USD from CA, Elecraft ships it for about 60 USD. Really strange.


73, István ha4zd

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[Elecraft] KX3 Encoder Noise

2012-09-29 Thread zumbruns
Got the new KX3 finally.  Took about 4 hours to put it together and calibrate 
the radio.  Impressive.  With small laptop power supply able to get 10 watts 
easily.  I experience the encoder hash for the first time yesterday.  I had a 
rather long QSO with local ham and after signing I noticed the scratchy hash 
noise with tuning the VFO A.  The heat sink warmed up a bit after the SSB QSO 
but not too bad.  I tried the radio on several bands and the encoder noise was 
present.  I turned off the rig.  Later that day I remembered turning AFX MD to 
the off position.  I went back to the rig and turned it on.  The Encoder noise 
was still present.  I truned AFX MD back to the Delay setting and the encoder 
noise disappeared.  I wonder if others have noticed this.  Sounds to me like 
this is a software issue and should be able to be remedied by firmware update.  
Overall very impressive rig.  It sounds like it will be my rig to take to 
Hawaii in February with the small vertical antenna, all easily carried in the 
suitcase.  Thanks again, Wayne and Eric and the Elecraft team for another great 
product. 
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[Elecraft] KX3 encoder noise

2012-09-30 Thread Mike Mardis
I have the KX3 #1877. It came with AFX MOD already set to delay. 
I still have VFO A tuning noise beginning at 20M. Sometimes low on 20. 
Sometimes moderate. But, as you move up the bands, it gets progressively worse. 
This tops my very short list of "things I'd like changed". I really hope it's a 
software fix. 
Thanks for an awesome radio. My first contact was on 40 using a horrible 
antenna the day I got it. 

Mike Mardis
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder

2016-05-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
István,

The optical encoder used for VFO A on the KX3 was custom designed for Elecraft, 
and may not be generally available. Prior to this, there was no optical encoder 
available from any manufacturer that was this small, while still having 
excellent mechanical properties and long life. Even if you could find it, you'd 
be paying single-unit prices, probably higher than what we charge, because we 
purchase them in large quantities.

In addition, there's a small circuit board pre-attached to the circuit board to 
allow it to be plugged into the control panel board.

You may be able to have the encoder shipped from one of our EU dealers.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On May 23, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Szabó István  wrote:

> Could someone help me who is the manufacturer of the encoder? Elecraft 
> shipping cost is extremely high, same value and size shipping  cost is about 
> 20 USD from CA, Elecraft ships it for about 60 USD. Really strange.
> 
> 73, István ha4zd
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[Elecraft] KX3 encoder dying?

2018-09-16 Thread George Pasek
I noticed today that when I tried to fine adjust the mic level with the 
mic/keyer/pwr encoder that it may display the mic level but won't change it 
or if it does it's very erratic.  The response is the same with the keyer 
speed in CW mode and when attempting to adjust the power level.  Turning the 
knob fast usually does nothing, turning it slow may move it a bit and 
wiggling the knob seems the best way to see results.   I never had a problem 
with it till today and I have made no changes to it or it's operation.  I 
have been running it on WSPR at 500mw with a 2 minute Tx and 8 minute Rx for 
a few weeks now and always tweak the mic gain for the blinking ALC 5th bar 
when I change bands.  I'm assuming it's the encoder going bad and will have 
to be sent to the Elecraft Hospital for a part replacement surgery but I 
thought I'd check here first in case I'm missing something.


tnx
de George
WD0AKZ


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[Elecraft] KX3 Encoder Upgrade

2014-09-21 Thread Richard Thorpe
Does anyone out there know if the Elacraft encoder upgrade kit for the KX3 
comes with the allen wrench to remove and install the knob.  Thank you.

R Thorpe K6CG
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[Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Andrew Moore
My KX3 encoder makes a mechanical scraping sound when I turn the tuning
knob. This happens with and without the knob attached. It doesn't sound
like anything's horribly broken, just maybe slightly not right.

Is it normal, and if not, is the encoder user-serviceable?

Thanks,
--Andrew, NV1B
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[Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Sullivan, Mike C
I also have this 'scrapping' noise - very light and does not happen at the same 
spot every turn. Are there bearings in encoder - maybe a ball or roller with a 
flat spot on it that drags when the flat spot comes around? Or a bearing 
separator that is bent somehow?

Mike Sullivan
KX3 #600
73 W5EEA ..

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder noise

2012-09-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike,

I picked up on your "horrible antenna" words.
Yes, with no antenna, or a "horrible antenna", you may hear some VFO 
tuning noise in the KX3, but that is usually covered up by band noise 
with a normal antenna connected (except on 6 meters and maybe 10 meters 
where the band noise is low).

You can use the menu VFO NR on bands where the tuning noise is a 
problem.  This is a locked menu entry and it is a per band setting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/30/2012 3:46 AM, Mike Mardis wrote:
> I have the KX3 #1877. It came with AFX MOD already set to delay.
> I still have VFO A tuning noise beginning at 20M. Sometimes low on 20. 
> Sometimes moderate. But, as you move up the bands, it gets progressively 
> worse.
> This tops my very short list of "things I'd like changed". I really hope it's 
> a software fix.
> Thanks for an awesome radio. My first contact was on 40 using a horrible 
> antenna the day I got it.
>
> Mike Mardis
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder dying?

2018-09-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Encoders can be cleaned. I've done it in several radios, several brands.  It is 
usually necessary to open the radio, remove the encoder.  Then carefully open 
the encoder, clean the wiper contacts and the stationary contacts with contact 
cleaner.   These are simply a stepping switch. Only one moving part. Reassemble 
in the reverse process. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 16, 2018, at 4:39 PM, George Pasek  wrote:
> 
> I noticed today that when I tried to fine adjust the mic level with the 
> mic/keyer/pwr encoder that it may display the mic level but won't change it 
> or if it does it's very erratic.  The response is the same with the keyer 
> speed in CW mode and when attempting to adjust the power level.  Turning the 
> knob fast usually does nothing, turning it slow may move it a bit and 
> wiggling the knob seems the best way to see results.   I never had a problem 
> with it till today and I have made no changes to it or it's operation.  I 
> have been running it on WSPR at 500mw with a 2 minute Tx and 8 minute Rx for 
> a few weeks now and always tweak the mic gain for the blinking ALC 5th bar 
> when I change bands.  I'm assuming it's the encoder going bad and will have 
> to be sent to the Elecraft Hospital for a part replacement surgery but I 
> thought I'd check here first in case I'm missing something.
> 
> tnx
> de George
> WD0AKZ
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder dying?

2018-09-18 Thread George Pasek
I opted to get a RSA number from Elecraft and ship it out to them.  I no 
longer have my workbench (or keen eyesight/steady soldering hand for that 
matter) so I really don't want taking a chance to do that type of work on 
something as expensive as the KX3.  I told them to replace all 4 of the 
small encorders and I should be good-to-go for many more years.


George
WD0AKZ

-Original Message- 
From: Bob McGraw K4TAX

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 4:49 PM
To: George Pasek
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder dying?

Encoders can be cleaned. I've done it in several radios, several brands.  It 
is usually necessary to open the radio, remove the encoder.  Then carefully 
open the encoder, clean the wiper contacts and the stationary contacts with 
contact cleaner.   These are simply a stepping switch. Only one moving part. 
Reassemble in the reverse process.


Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 16, 2018, at 4:39 PM, George Pasek  wrote:

I noticed today that when I tried to fine adjust the mic level with the 
mic/keyer/pwr encoder that it may display the mic level but won't change 
it or if it does it's very erratic.  The response is the same with the 
keyer speed in CW mode and when attempting to adjust the power level. 
Turning the knob fast usually does nothing, turning it slow may move it a 
bit and wiggling the knob seems the best way to see results.   I never had 
a problem with it till today and I have made no changes to it or it's 
operation.  I have been running it on WSPR at 500mw with a 2 minute Tx and 
8 minute Rx for a few weeks now and always tweak the mic gain for the 
blinking ALC 5th bar when I change bands.  I'm assuming it's the encoder 
going bad and will have to be sent to the Elecraft Hospital for a part 
replacement surgery but I thought I'd check here first in case I'm missing 
something.


tnx
de George
WD0AKZ


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Encoder Upgrade

2014-09-21 Thread Matt VK2RQ
I don't think so -- you get an allen key with the KX3 itself (both factory and 
kit versions), as this is needed to adjust the drag on the tuning knob. If you 
have lost your key, when you order the encoder upgrade, in the comments field 
ask them to add an allen key to your order (mail parts at electraft.com to get 
the part number).

73, Matt VK2RQ.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 6:03 am, Richard Thorpe  wrote:

> Does anyone out there know if the Elacraft encoder upgrade kit for the KX3 
> comes with the allen wrench to remove and install the knob.  Thank you.
> 
> R Thorpe K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Encoder Upgrade

2014-09-21 Thread Jim H via Elecraft
Hi Richard, 
The Allen wrench is a 5/64, which you could get at a local hardware/tool  
store. The encoder upgrade does not come with an Allen wrench, my upgrade kit 
 did not.
Jim H K7SSS
 
 
In a message dated 9/21/2014 2:12:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
matt.vk...@gmail.com writes:

I don't  think so -- you get an allen key with the KX3 itself (both factory 
and kit  versions), as this is 
73, Matt VK2RQ.

On 22 Sep 2014, at 6:03 am,  Richard Thorpe  wrote:

> Does anyone out there  know if the Elacraft encoder upgrade kit for the 
KX3 comes with the allen  wrench to remove and install the knob.  Thank you.
> 
> R  Thorpe K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Thomas Horsten
Andrew,

I've got this too, at first I thought it was just the rubbing against the
felt pad but it's deeper than that, it's not causing any problems right now
and is quite minor, but still a bit concerned.

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 19 July 2012 15:14, Andrew Moore  wrote:

> My KX3 encoder makes a mechanical scraping sound when I turn the tuning
> knob. This happens with and without the knob attached. It doesn't sound
> like anything's horribly broken, just maybe slightly not right.
>
> Is it normal, and if not, is the encoder user-serviceable?
>
> Thanks,
> --Andrew, NV1B
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Adi Andrei
I've got this too. What is going on?

Adi, M0THX


On 19/07/2012 15:37, Thomas Horsten wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> I've got this too, at first I thought it was just the rubbing against the
> felt pad but it's deeper than that, it's not causing any problems right now
> and is quite minor, but still a bit concerned.
>
> 73, Thomas M0TRN
>
> On 19 July 2012 15:14, Andrew Moore  wrote:
>
>> My KX3 encoder makes a mechanical scraping sound when I turn the tuning
>> knob. This happens with and without the knob attached. It doesn't sound
>> like anything's horribly broken, just maybe slightly not right.
>>
>> Is it normal, and if not, is the encoder user-serviceable?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --Andrew, NV1B
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Andrew Moore
I'm not too concerned about it - just wanted to find out if mine was the
oddball.

(I think the encoder is not the ball-bearing type like that used in the K3,
so it's not going to be as smooth)

--Andrew, NV1B
..

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Adi Andrei  wrote:

> I've got this too. What is going on?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Andrew Moore
No bearings on this encoder (I think it's been asked before). Just the
nature of this encoder, it sounds like. Not going to worry about it.



On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:49 PM, "Sullivan, Mike C"
 wrote:

> I also have this 'scrapping' noise - very light and does not happen at the 
> same spot every turn. Are there bearings in encoder - maybe a ball or roller 
> with a flat spot on it that drags when the flat spot comes around? Or a 
> bearing separator that is bent somehow?
>
> Mike Sullivan
> KX3 #600
> 73 W5EEA ..
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Wayne Burdick
The KX3's encoder has a high-quality, lubricated sleeve bearing. These  
are used in some radios targeted at mobile operation, like the TS-480.  
It seemed like a reasonable choice for the KX3, which will often be  
jostled around during field or mobile use. And it fits :)

Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 19, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Moore wrote:

> No bearings on this encoder (I think it's been asked before). Just the
> nature of this encoder, it sounds like. Not going to worry about it.
>
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:49 PM, "Sullivan, Mike C"
>  wrote:
>
>> I also have this 'scrapping' noise - very light and does not happen  
>> at the same spot every turn. Are there bearings in encoder - maybe  
>> a ball or roller with a flat spot on it that drags when the flat  
>> spot comes around? Or a bearing separator that is bent somehow?
>>
>> Mike Sullivan
>> KX3 #600
>> 73 W5EEA ..
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Rick Tavan N6XI
Dunno if it was the same cause, but I, too, had a scraping noise when
turning the VFO knob. It didn't happen on every turn and it "moved" around
the circumference, so it didn't seem to be the knob bottoming out on the
clear plastic bezel. But it was. I removed the rubber ring around the knob,
loosened the set screw and lifted the knob ever so slightly above the
bezel, tightened the nut and the noise was gone.

/Rick N6XI

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Sullivan, Mike C  wrote:

> I also have this 'scrapping' noise - very light and does not happen at the
> same spot every turn. Are there bearings in encoder - maybe a ball or
> roller with a flat spot on it that drags when the flat spot comes around?
> Or a bearing separator that is bent somehow?
>
> Mike Sullivan
> KX3 #600
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread va3bxg
My issue is that the radio drifts. I have tried tightening the screw, loosening 
it. Removed the felt, put it back on

And I still get the drift
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Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:25:43 
To: Sullivan, Mike C
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

Dunno if it was the same cause, but I, too, had a scraping noise when
turning the VFO knob. It didn't happen on every turn and it "moved" around
the circumference, so it didn't seem to be the knob bottoming out on the
clear plastic bezel. But it was. I removed the rubber ring around the knob,
loosened the set screw and lifted the knob ever so slightly above the
bezel, tightened the nut and the noise was gone.

/Rick N6XI

On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Sullivan, Mike C  wrote:

> I also have this 'scrapping' noise - very light and does not happen at the
> same spot every turn. Are there bearings in encoder - maybe a ball or
> roller with a flat spot on it that drags when the flat spot comes around?
> Or a bearing separator that is bent somehow?
>
> Mike Sullivan
> KX3 #600
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2012-07-19 Thread Wayne Burdick
Robert,

There should be virtually no electrical drift. It's likely to be  
either mechanical or firmware.

First try locking the VFO (hold KHZ for 3 seconds). Does it still  
drift? If so, then firmware could be causing the drift, typically  
because MIC BTN is set to PTT.UP.DN but the mic is something other  
than an MH3. If you're using an MH3 and still see firmware-based  
drift, there could be problem with one of the resistors in the mic or  
on the control panel board.

If there's no drift when the VFO is locked, then the cause must be  
mechanical, and you should be able to eliminate it by having the knob  
lightly compress the felt pad.

If this doesn't help, please contact customer support tomorrow.

tnx
Wayne
N6KR



On Jul 19, 2012, at 7:10 PM, va3...@gmail.com wrote:

> My issue is that the radio drifts. I have tried tightening the  
> screw, loosening it. Removed the felt, put it back on
>
> And I still get the drift
> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Tavan N6XI 
> Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:25:43
> To: Sullivan, Mike C
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?
>
> Dunno if it was the same cause, but I, too, had a scraping noise when
> turning the VFO knob. It didn't happen on every turn and it "moved"  
> around
> the circumference, so it didn't seem to be the knob bottoming out on  
> the
> clear plastic bezel. But it was. I removed the rubber ring around  
> the knob,
> loosened the set screw and lifted the knob ever so slightly above the
> bezel, tightened the nut and the noise was gone.
>
> /Rick N6XI
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Sullivan, Mike C > wrote:
>
>> I also have this 'scrapping' noise - very light and does not happen  
>> at the
>> same spot every turn. Are there bearings in encoder - maybe a ball or
>> roller with a flat spot on it that drags when the flat spot comes  
>> around?
>> Or a bearing separator that is bent somehow?
>>
>> Mike Sullivan
>> KX3 #600
>> 73 W5EEA ..
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2013-01-04 Thread K4THE
Newbie here with KX3-K #3049. My encoder shaft had 2 very tight spots as I
turned the shaft - even without the knob attached. I hoped it would go away
but after a week of use it was still very tight. I removed encoder and could
see the C-clip and the washer underneath rotating on the threaded shaft. I
applied a drop of 3-in-1 oil to washer & clip and worked it in well: turning
shaft while pushing it in and pulling out, more oil - repeat. Reinstalled
encoder and knob. It now turns smoothly and is 95% better. 73 Dennis K4THE



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 encoder: mechanical noise?

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Moore
Dennis:

Disclaimer: this is not an official "fix" from Elecraft, nor is the
scratchy encoder necessarily a "problem" and it will likely smooth out with
use. Proceed at your own risk.

Similar scratchy on mine. Per someone else's suggestion, I removed the
encoder's washer (you don't need to remove the nut), polished both sides
using a Dremel tool (use a polishing bit with a little dab of polishing
compound) -- not a sanding or grinding bit! -- and applied a small bit of
white lithium grease. Great improvement, I'd say 98% smooth.

For more info see this previous post:

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Rec-d-today-td7560208.html

73,
--Andrew, NV1B
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM, K4THE  wrote:

> Newbie here with KX3-K #3049. My encoder shaft had 2 very tight spots as I
> turned the shaft - even without the knob attached. I hoped it would go away
> but after a week of use it was still very tight. I removed encoder and
> could
> see the C-clip and the washer underneath rotating on the threaded shaft. I
> applied a drop of 3-in-1 oil to washer & clip and worked it in well:
> turning
> shaft while pushing it in and pulling out, more oil - repeat. Reinstalled
> encoder and knob. It now turns smoothly and is 95% better. 73 Dennis K4THE
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