Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-13 Thread paulb

Interesting to see this thread..
the K2 and K3 owned here have bags of
audio transmit gain. This allows the heavy 
bass vowel sounds to be rolled off below about
300 hz. The KX3 seems to be slightly lacking in
TX audio; the not-so-great fix here has been to 
construct a very small outboard single transistor
mic amp. It is powered from a small 9 volt battery.

I have tried using the mic bias directly to drive the 
mic preamp but got into rf feedback troubles.

cheers 

Paul 
zl1ajy



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-13 Thread Christian AK4VV
You need the ACC2 breakout cable from Elecraft. The PTT switch from
Aircraft Spruce just plugs straight into that. You need to configure the
menu item to say you want the contact closure to enable PTT.

73,
Christian
AK4VV
On Jul 12, 2013 3:48 AM, KF5TEU bha...@flexbrite.com wrote:

 I ordered the aircraftsp
 What headset/mic/adapter were you using ?
 Thanks for the info.ruce PTT but I want to be sure I understand...you
 attached this PTT to the ACC2 port on the KX3 and youyou had a
 microphone/headset pluged into where exactly, mic in mic, headset in Phones
 or what ?
 Like others I'm looking for a wireless solution which may just be this PTT
 plus a musician style headset with mic and a pass-through wireless
 receiver/tx on the back of the KX3 that has a built in VOX to allow it to
 send and receive based on input either direction. No models yet but
 looking.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-13 Thread Richard Neese

On 7/13/2013 10:28 AM, Christian AK4VV wrote:

You need the ACC2 breakout cable from Elecraft. The PTT switch from
Aircraft Spruce just plugs straight into that. You need to configure the
menu item to say you want the contact closure to enable PTT.
you dont need the breakout cable to put a foot/hand ptt switch. you need 
a mono 2.5 mm headphone jack. and you need to fo into the menu and put 
the acc2 port into ptt_low.


but if you plan to use a ptt and the amp then you need the breakout cable

*KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set*

   The KX3-PCKT cable set interfaces between the Elecraft KX3 and
   personal computers, and provides convenient connection to an
   external foot switch and RF power amplifier./KX3-PCKT Instructions/
   
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740169%20KX3-PCKT%20Cable%20Set%20Instructions%20Rev%200.pdf

   19.95

is well woth the money . yoou get all the needed cabl for the kx3.


73,
Christian
AK4VV
On Jul 12, 2013 3:48 AM, KF5TEU bha...@flexbrite.com wrote:


I ordered the aircraftsp
What headset/mic/adapter were you using ?
Thanks for the info.ruce PTT but I want to be sure I understand...you
attached this PTT to the ACC2 port on the KX3 and youyou had a
microphone/headset pluged into where exactly, mic in mic, headset in Phones
or what ?
Like others I'm looking for a wireless solution which may just be this PTT
plus a musician style headset with mic and a pass-through wireless
receiver/tx on the back of the KX3 that has a built in VOX to allow it to
send and receive based on input either direction. No models yet but
looking.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-13 Thread KF5TEU
O.K.
I have the KPA100 ordered and the 500 hust got here so I will need the cable 
and I have it, came with my order as I addedvit in.
I have the Heil headset as well for base use.
So the PTT switch plugs into the ACC2 cable, that into ACC2 jack.
Where are you using the mono 2.5mm headphone mono jack ?
I have stereo headphones plugged into Phones.

What are using for a mic, the little condenser type plugged directly into the 
Nic hack or a mic on the headsetvor what ?
When menu is set to PTT kow , VOX isvoff then whenvyou push PTT does the mic 
become open for TX  that iplugged in to Mic ?
This means it has to be a buttonless nic ( no PTT ) so can I use a headset 
microphone like on standard cell phone or even Icom style ( different plug but 
maybe gain is high enough ) and just plug it's line into Mic ?


73

kF5TEU

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wrote:On 7/13/2013 10:28 AM, Christian AK4VV wrote: 
 You need the ACC2 breakout cable from Elecraft. The PTT switch from 
 Aircraft Spruce just plugs straight into that. You need to configure the 
 menu item to say you want the contact closure to enable PTT. 
you dont need the breakout cable to put a foot/hand ptt switch. you need 
a mono 2.5 mm headphone jack. and you need to fo into the menu and put 
the acc2 port into ptt_low. 

but if you plan to use a ptt and the amp then you need the breakout cable 

*KX3-PCKT Accessory Cable Set* 

    The KX3-PCKT cable set interfaces between the Elecraft KX3 and 
    personal computers, and provides convenient connection to an 
    external foot switch and RF power amplifier./KX3-PCKT Instructions/ 
    
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740169%20KX3-PCKT%20Cable%20Set%20Instructions%20Rev%200.pdf
 

    19.95 

is well woth the money . yoou get all the needed cabl for the kx3. 

 73, 
 Christian 
 AK4VV 
 On Jul 12, 2013 3:48 AM, KF5TEU [hidden email] wrote: 
 
 I ordered the aircraftsp 
 What headset/mic/adapter were you using ? 
 Thanks for the info.ruce PTT but I want to be sure I understand...you 
 attached this PTT to the ACC2 port on the KX3 and youyou had a 
 microphone/headset pluged into where exactly, mic in mic, headset in Phones 
 or what ? 
 Like others I'm looking for a wireless solution which may just be this PTT 
 plus a musician style headset with mic and a pass-through wireless 
 receiver/tx on the back of the KX3 that has a built in VOX to allow it to 
 send and receive based on input either direction. No models yet but 
 looking. 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-13 Thread Richard Neese

On 7/13/2013 10:17 PM, KF5TEU wrote:

O.K.
I have the KPA100 ordered and the 500 hust got here so I will need the cable 
and I have it, came with my order as I addedvit in.
I have the Heil headset as well for base use.
So the PTT switch plugs into the ACC2 cable, that into ACC2 jack.

yes

Where are you using the mono 2.5mm headphone mono jack ?
the ptt switch/hand button is a acc2 is a 2.5 mm jack mono it you dont 
have the breakout cable. if you have the breakout cable then its a 3.5mm 
mono jack



I have stereo headphones plugged into Phones.

What are using for a mic, the little condenser type plugged directly into the 
Nic hack or a mic on the headsetvor what ?
When menu is set to PTT kow , VOX isvoff then whenvyou push PTT does the mic 
become open for TX  that iplugged in to Mic ?
This means it has to be a buttonless nic ( no PTT ) so can I use a headset 
microphone like on standard cell phone or even Icom style ( different plug but 
maybe gain is high enough ) and just plug it's line into Mic ?

no you can use a standard desktop mic or a headset with a mic or a 
laptop mini mic. with a standard 3.5mm jack on it.
you just have to change the mic bias setting in the menu to on, for this 
type of mic to work.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-12 Thread KF5TEU
I ordered the aircraftsp
What headset/mic/adapter were you using ?
Thanks for the info.ruce PTT but I want to be sure I understand...you
attached this PTT to the ACC2 port on the KX3 and youyou had a
microphone/headset pluged into where exactly, mic in mic, headset in Phones
or what ?
Like others I'm looking for a wireless solution which may just be this PTT
plus a musician style headset with mic and a pass-through wireless
receiver/tx on the back of the KX3 that has a built in VOX to allow it to
send and receive based on input either direction. No models yet but looking.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-12 Thread Fred Smith
Have a look at the new (August) QST on a Bluetooth headset a homebrew, very
nice one.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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I ordered the aircraftsp
What headset/mic/adapter were you using ?
Thanks for the info.ruce PTT but I want to be sure I understand...you
attached this PTT to the ACC2 port on the KX3 and youyou had a
microphone/headset pluged into where exactly, mic in mic, headset in Phones
or what ?
Like others I'm looking for a wireless solution which may just be this PTT
plus a musician style headset with mic and a pass-through wireless
receiver/tx on the back of the KX3 that has a built in VOX to allow it to
send and receive based on input either direction. No models yet but looking.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2013-07-12 Thread Dominic Baines

The cheapest option (that works) is a PC headset from logitech.

I have used mine without issue since day one.

http://m1kta-qrp.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/kx3-headset.html

72

Dom
M1KTA


On 12/07/13 10:20, Fred Smith wrote:

Have a look at the new (August) QST on a Bluetooth headset a homebrew, very
nice one.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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I ordered the aircraftsp
What headset/mic/adapter were you using ?
Thanks for the info.ruce PTT but I want to be sure I understand...you
attached this PTT to the ACC2 port on the KX3 and youyou had a
microphone/headset pluged into where exactly, mic in mic, headset in Phones
or what ?
Like others I'm looking for a wireless solution which may just be this PTT
plus a musician style headset with mic and a pass-through wireless
receiver/tx on the back of the KX3 that has a built in VOX to allow it to
send and receive based on input either direction. No models yet but looking.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2012-10-22 Thread Christian AK4VV
On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:37, Barry N1EU barry.n...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think you'll find any off-the-shelf headset with a compatible PTT
switch.  You can use the TX button on the front of the rig or VOX - both
these headsets work well on VOX.


Depends on what nature decided to do around you :).. I used this one with
the ACC2 adapter in the cable kit for the KX3 with great success on a
recent SOTA outing.  Straight plug in, no hacking up of the connector
needed.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/icomptt.php

I strapped the velcro around my left hand so I could work the log with my
right hand.  Worked very well and no fumbling for the PTT.  Made life very
convenient and gave me space to spread out on the rock ledge to get
comfortable.

Aircraft Spruce has a number of other PTTs if you fancy something else btw.

73,
Christian
AK4VV
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2012-10-21 Thread Barry N1EU
The Plantronics headset I tried performed poorly.  

What worked quite well for me was a Yamaha CM-500 and a Microsoft LifeChat
LX-2000.

I don't think you'll find any off-the-shelf headset with a compatible PTT
switch.  You can use the TX button on the front of the rig or VOX - both
these headsets work well on VOX.

73/GL,
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2012-10-21 Thread Ariel Jacala
Same deal here - happy with the Yamaha CM500

73  GL

Ariel NY4G

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On Oct 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Barry N1EU barry.n...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Plantronics headset I tried performed poorly.  
 
 What worked quite well for me was a Yamaha CM-500 and a Microsoft LifeChat
 LX-2000.
 
 I don't think you'll find any off-the-shelf headset with a compatible PTT
 switch.  You can use the TX button on the front of the rig or VOX - both
 these headsets work well on VOX.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2012-10-21 Thread Rick Stealey

When you get your CM500 don't make the mistake I did - don't listen to music 
with them.
On the other hand to see just how restricted the audio really is with them it 
is a good
test.  In a word - awful!  They are quite comfortable though.

Rick  K2XT
  
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2012-10-21 Thread Keith Heimbold
I am using a Yamaha HPE100 microphone on my K3 with great results. I like how 
it sounds and always seems to provide ample punch. I want to get another one 
for the KX3.

Keith
AG6AZ

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 When you get your CM500 don't make the mistake I did - don't listen to music 
 with them.
 On the other hand to see just how restricted the audio really is with them it 
 is a good
 test.  In a word - awful!  They are quite comfortable though.
 
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[Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2012-10-20 Thread Josh Lehan
Hi there.  Any particular model of headset, to recommend for use with
the KX3?

Right now, I'm using a Plantronics .Audio 500 headset, which is nice
because it has stereo RX (good for the KX3's audio effects) and it has
convenient small analog connectors (perfectly compatible with the KX3).

However, there's 2 drawbacks:

1) Not enough gain.  I have the KX3 set to its maximum MIC gain of 40.
Even with this, I'm not getting full voice modulation, at a comfortable
speaking voice.  I have to practically swallow the microphone, and then
yell, in order to put out the full wattage.  I have trouble lighting up
all 5 bars of the ALC.  Increasing the CMP level helps, but isn't a
complete solution.  I have CMP set to 20 now, having had it at the
maximum of 30 before, but backed it down to get a little better sound
quality.

I know the headset microphone is sensitive and works well, because when
used with the computer, it provides full volume at default settings, I
even have to dial it down a bit to avoid saturation.  I wonder what's
different about the KX3 than a typical computer sound card, from the
headset's point of view?  Perhaps the wrong impedance?

Sidetone is good, though, at level of 10.  RX audio quality is great.  I
noticed the recent software upgrade increased the maximum allowed
sidetone volume.  I wonder if it's possible to increase the maximum
allowed MIC gain similarly in software?  Maybe have an overdrive
feature, that shifts the bits left, so that even when the hardware is
maxed out, software can still amplify it some more, at the cost of
fidelity?  Some cellphones have this, and it really helps to be heard.

I tried both possible settings of MIC BIAS in the menu.  Having None
seemed to help a little, but it didn't make much of an overall difference.

2) No PTT button.  I was hoping to use my CW straight key as PTT, but no
such luck (I just sent another email about this).  If I get another
headset, I would like to get one with a button in the cord, that would
be electrically compatible with what the KX3 expects.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Josh
K6JSH
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 headset recommendation

2012-10-20 Thread Mickey Baker
Hi, Josh, 

I can't help with your current mic woes, but I use a $50 Yamaha CM500 headset 
with good results. MIC BIAS on, of course, for the electret mic.

73,

Mickey N4MB

On Oct 20, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Josh Lehan krel...@krellan.net wrote:

 Hi there.  Any particular model of headset, to recommend for use with
 the KX3?
 
 Right now, I'm using a Plantronics .Audio 500 headset, which is nice
 because it has stereo RX (good for the KX3's audio effects) and it has
 convenient small analog connectors (perfectly compatible with the KX3).
 
 However, there's 2 drawbacks:
 
 1) Not enough gain.  I have the KX3 set to its maximum MIC gain of 40.
 Even with this, I'm not getting full voice modulation, at a comfortable
 speaking voice.  I have to practically swallow the microphone, and then
 yell, in order to put out the full wattage.  I have trouble lighting up
 all 5 bars of the ALC.  Increasing the CMP level helps, but isn't a
 complete solution.  I have CMP set to 20 now, having had it at the
 maximum of 30 before, but backed it down to get a little better sound
 quality.
 
 I know the headset microphone is sensitive and works well, because when
 used with the computer, it provides full volume at default settings, I
 even have to dial it down a bit to avoid saturation.  I wonder what's
 different about the KX3 than a typical computer sound card, from the
 headset's point of view?  Perhaps the wrong impedance?
 
 Sidetone is good, though, at level of 10.  RX audio quality is great.  I
 noticed the recent software upgrade increased the maximum allowed
 sidetone volume.  I wonder if it's possible to increase the maximum
 allowed MIC gain similarly in software?  Maybe have an overdrive
 feature, that shifts the bits left, so that even when the hardware is
 maxed out, software can still amplify it some more, at the cost of
 fidelity?  Some cellphones have this, and it really helps to be heard.
 
 I tried both possible settings of MIC BIAS in the menu.  Having None
 seemed to help a little, but it didn't make much of an overall difference.
 
 2) No PTT button.  I was hoping to use my CW straight key as PTT, but no
 such luck (I just sent another email about this).  If I get another
 headset, I would like to get one with a button in the cord, that would
 be electrically compatible with what the KX3 expects.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Josh
 K6JSH
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