Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Brendon Whateley]

That is a great idea Niel. The platform is getting used so much for all
manner of things that used to need a "real computer" that it is a shame
that it is not a first-class device.

We can have a bunch of people "in-line" so that Elecraft doesn't run the
risk of the guy leaving. A couple of NDAs, a trip to the HQ, and they could
have a volunteer team to maintain the Pi version for the joy of all.

- Brendon
KK6AYI

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Niel Skousen 
wrote:

> On the other hand,  if one of us (well, not me - not technically
> qualified) were to contact Elecraft and volunteer ( in the OpenSource
> mindset) to execute the appropriate agreements for access to the code
> line.  Then to be the maintainer of the ARM distribution, with a focus on
> the RPi family, Elecraft might well agree to support the distribution.
> That would satisfy the company protection of product line integrity, and
> given a knowledgeable package maintainer, a confidence in the finished
> product.
>
> Niel
>
>
> On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
> > Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> >
> > I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my
> radio."  The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the
> things I can configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing
> unless I tell it to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Fred K6DGW
> > - Sparks NV DM09dn
> >
> > - Northern California Contest Club
> > - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> > - www.cqp.org
> >
> > On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> >> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
> >> 'invention'.
> >> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
> >> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
> >> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
> >> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
> >> it happens.
> >>
> >> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
> >> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Nr4c]

Ok. I missed the big NOT. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft 
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from 
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> 
> I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my radio."  
> The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the things I can 
> configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing unless I tell it 
> to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Sparks NV DM09dn
> 
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> - www.cqp.org
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
>> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
>> 'invention'.
>> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
>> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
>> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
>> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
>> it happens.
>> 
>> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
>> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Nr4c]

Right. Duh!!!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
> 'invention'.
> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms 
> and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing 
> Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility 
> programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, it happens.
> 
> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" 
> and not conversant with computer lingo.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
>>> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
>>> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join 
>>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make 
>>> a contribution.
>>> 
>>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
>>> with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
>>> running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in 
>>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
>>> 
>>> Doug -- K0DXV
>>> 
 On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
 dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as 
 I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
 because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. 
 Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, 
 although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for 
 the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to 
 my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
 
 Thanks for everyone’s input.
 
 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
 Folsom, CA
 
 
> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wroteBill,
> 
> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
> 'invention'.
> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS platforms 
> and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for instance needing 
> Elecraft support to help them with downloading and installing the Utility 
> programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, it happens.
> 
> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer smart" 
> and not conversant with computer lingo.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
>>> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
>>> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join 
>>> in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make 
>>> a contribution.
>>> 
>>> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
>>> with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
>>> running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in 
>>> mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
>>> 
>>> Doug -- K0DXV
>>> 
 On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
 Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
 dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as 
 I went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
 because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. 
 Once the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, 
 although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for 
 the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to 
 my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
 
 Thanks for everyone’s input.
 
 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
 Folsom, CA
 
 
> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wrote:
> 
> The 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Niel Skousen]

On the other hand,  if one of us (well, not me - not technically qualified) 
were to contact Elecraft and volunteer ( in the OpenSource mindset) to execute 
the appropriate agreements for access to the code line.  Then to be the 
maintainer of the ARM distribution, with a focus on the RPi family, Elecraft 
might well agree to support the distribution.  That would satisfy the company 
protection of product line integrity, and given a knowledgeable package 
maintainer, a confidence in the finished product.

Niel


On Dec 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
> participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine Elecraft 
> tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems reported from 
> multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.
> 
> I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my radio."  
> The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the things I can 
> configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does nothing unless I tell it 
> to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Sparks NV DM09dn
> 
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
> - www.cqp.org
> 
> On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
>> How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
>> 'invention'.
>> Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
>> platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
>> instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
>> installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
>> it happens.
>> 
>> With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
>> smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Fred Jensen]

Precisely.  Open source software has its place in situations where the 
participants are technically qualified.  However, I can't imagine 
Elecraft tech support attempting to field the multitude of problems 
reported from multiple platforms, coded by others, many who are anonymous.


I still don't understand the reference to "Elecraft controlling my 
radio."  The Elecraft utilities are convenient interfaces into all the 
things I can configure with my Elecraft radios.  The utility does 
nothing unless I tell it to, and what I tell it is between me and my radios.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Sparks NV DM09dn

- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 7-8 Oct 2017
- www.cqp.org

On 12/16/2016 2:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bill,

I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's
'invention'.
Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS
platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for
instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and
installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes,
it happens.

With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer
smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Don Wilhelm]

Bill,

I think there is a big "NOT" missing from your post.
How could Elecraft control and provide support for code of each user's 
'invention'.
Elecraft support has enough problems with support for the major OS 
platforms and users who have trouble using those OS platforms - for 
instance needing Elecraft support to help them with downloading and 
installing the Utility programs and help in downloading firmware.  Yes, 
it happens.


With open source, it would be chaotic for users who are not "computer 
smart" and not conversant with computer lingo.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2016 4:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:

I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra work 
involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in and 
manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
contribution.

The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running on 
a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.

Doug -- K0DXV


On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.

Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the list 
originally.


On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides 
any additional

influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra work 
involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in and 
manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
contribution.

The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running on 
a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.

Doug -- K0DXV


On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Fred Jensen]

73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 12/16/2016 1:33 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Nr4c]

If it were "open source" Elecraft could control what you did to your radio. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Dec 16, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Doug Person  wrote:
> 
> I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in 
> and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
> contribution.
> 
> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
> each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running 
> on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
> platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
> 
> Doug -- K0DXV
> 
>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I 
>> went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once 
>> the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
>> sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, 
>> so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and 
>> run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
>> 
>> Thanks for everyone’s input.
>> 
>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run 
>>> it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is 
>>> for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
>>> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
>>> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
>>> fixing other problems.
>>> 
>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required 
>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee 
>>> capital.
>>> 
>>> Here's hoping for the future, though.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> KG1GEM
>>> 
>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
>>> list originally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice 
>>> provides any additional 
> influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is extra 
> work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers could join in 
> and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be happy to make a 
> contribution.
> 
> The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable with 
> each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm running 
> on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances in mobile 
> platforms, so the future for these little computers is very bright.
> 
> Doug -- K0DXV
> 
>> On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never 
>> dawned on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I 
>> went through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi 
>> because of that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once 
>> the dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
>> sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, 
>> so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and 
>> run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…
>> 
>> Thanks for everyone’s input.
>> 
>> 73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
>> 
>>> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run 
>>> it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is 
>>> for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
>>> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
>>> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
>>> fixing other problems.
>>> 
>>> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
>>> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required 
>>> for another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee 
>>> capital.
>>> 
>>> Here's hoping for the future, though.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> KG1GEM
>>> 
>>> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
>>> list originally.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 12/13/16 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Doug Person]

I'm a big Pi fan myself.  So if adding my voice provides any additional 
influence - here it is.  I'm also a programmer and I agree there is 
extra work involved.  If the utility was open source, then volunteers 
could join in and manage the tool chain and build. I would certainly be 
happy to make a contribution.


The Raspberry Pi is a very hot platform that gets more and more capable 
with each new board.  Version 3 is quite amazing.  I can hardly tell I'm 
running on a little ARM box.  It's power is the result of the advances 
in mobile platforms, so the future for these little computers is very 
bright.


Doug -- K0DXV

On 12/13/2016 8:28 PM, James Bennett wrote:

Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went through a 
ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of that issue. In 
both instances I had to compile from source. Once the dependencies were addressed, 
the compilation process went well, although sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft 
doesn’t provide source for the utility, so I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off 
the RPi and over to my iMac and run the Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang 
it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell  
wrote:

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool chain 
and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent fixing other 
problems.

I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.

Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the list 
originally.


On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:

I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, using 
CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 and 
JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can get the 
full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft 
web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, nothing 
happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian 
Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Don Wilhelm]

James,

Having been a professional woodworker for 10 years I disagree.  The 
difference between a woodworker and a carpenter is 1/64 of an inch.  1/8 
of an inch is sloppy measurement and while that is sufficient for 
carpenters doing framing, it is not sufficient for finish carpenters and 
woodworkers who do precision work.


73,
Don W3FPR

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“What’s the difference between a carpenter and a woodworker? About 1/8 inch!"

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[James Bennett]

Ah, crud - you know, I saw that "x86-based Linux” statement and it never dawned 
on me about the Pi being ARM-based!!! I should have known that, as I went 
through a ton of hoops getting WSJT-X and Hamlib running on the RPi because of 
that issue. In both instances I had to compile from source. Once the 
dependencies were addressed, the compilation process went well, although 
sloow. Well, I suppose Elecraft doesn’t provide source for the utility, so 
I guess I’ve got to pull the cable off the RPi and over to my iMac and run the 
Utility over there on OSX. Not cool, dang it. Oh well…

Thanks for everyone’s input.

73 and Happy Holidays, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA


> On   Tuesday, Dec 13, 2016, at  Tuesday, 6:16 PM, Tim Elwell 
>  wrote:
> 
> The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to run it 
> on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do that is for 
> Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to recall being 
> mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time setting up the tool 
> chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It would be time best spent 
> fixing other problems.
> 
> I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but do 
> understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support required for 
> another platform. And a small company has to watch their employee capital.
> 
> Here's hoping for the future, though.
> 
> Tim
> KG1GEM
> 
> PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not the 
> list originally.
> 
> 
> On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:
>> I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, 
>> using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 
>> and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can 
>> get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from 
>> the Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” 
>> executable, nothing happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? 
>> I am using the Raspian Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Tim Elwell]

The utility is compiled for the x86 architecture. You won't be able to 
run it on the ARM architecture that the Pi runs on. The only way to do 
that is for Elecraft to compile a version for the ARM. Last I seem to 
recall being mentioned, there wasn't enough need to spend the time 
setting up the tool chain and dependencies for the ARM platform. It 
would be time best spent fixing other problems.


I'm a Pi person myself and would like to see it for that platform, but 
do understand as a programmer the difficulties of the extra support 
required for another platform. And a small company has to watch their 
employee capital.


Here's hoping for the future, though.

Tim
KG1GEM

PS: Sorry Jim, I realized I mistakenly replied directly to you and not 
the list originally.



On 12/13/16 7:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:
I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some 
time, using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X 
rc3 for JT9 and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into 
the KX3 so I can get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d 
the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click 
on the “kx3util” executable, nothing happens. What is the secret 
procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian Jessie (Debian 
Linux) OS on this RPi.




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Phil Wheeler]

Jim,

The Elecraft site 
http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm


*Minimum Operating System Requirements for 
Elecraft Utilities:*


*Microsoft Windows*: XP Service Pack 3 or later, 
including Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1.


*Apple Mac:* OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) or later

*X86-based Linux:* GTK+ 2.8 or later, glibc-2.4, 
libstdc++.so.6 and cURL. 64-bit Linux requires 
32-bit compatibility libraries.



My thinking is that your RPi3 is not running 
X86-based Linux -- and/or 


73, Phil W7OX

On 12/13/16 4:53 PM, James Bennett wrote:

I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, using 
CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 and 
JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can get the 
full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft 
web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, nothing 
happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian 
Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Niel Skousen]

Duh Mint...

Niel

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> On Dec 13, 2016, at 18:15, Niel Skousen  wrote:
> 
> I've been using Mike t on a Dell e4200.  I seem to recall is wa the 32bit 
> compatibility lib's.  Elecraft's SW is built ( if I recall) as 32bit apps.  
> 
> Will ping you seperately offline for some questions.  
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Niel
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>> On Dec 13, 2016, at 17:53, James Bennett  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, 
>> using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 
>> and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can 
>> get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from 
>> the Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” 
>> executable, nothing happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? 
>> I am using the Raspian Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.
>> 
>> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
>> Folsom, CA
>> 
>> “What’s the difference between a carpenter and a woodworker? About 1/8 inch!"
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[Niel Skousen]

I've been using Mike t on a Dell e4200.  I seem to recall is wa the 32bit 
compatibility lib's.  Elecraft's SW is built ( if I recall) as 32bit apps.  

Will ping you seperately offline for some questions.  

Thanks

Niel
WA7SSA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 17:53, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, 
> using CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 
> and JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can 
> get the full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the 
> Elecraft web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, 
> nothing happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using 
> the Raspian Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.
> 
> Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
> 
> “What’s the difference between a carpenter and a woodworker? About 1/8 inch!"
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[Elecraft] KX3 utility on RPi

[James Bennett]

I’ve been using my KX3 connected to a Raspberry Pi 3 for quite some time, using 
CQRlog for logging, FLDIGI for PSK31, and recently, WXJT-X rc3 for JT9 and 
JT65. I’d like to load the most current firmware into the KX3 so I can get the 
full 15 watts out. I downloaded and un-tar’d the KX3 Utility from the Elecraft 
web site. So - now what? If I click on the “kx3util” executable, nothing 
happens. What is the secret procedure to get this going? I am using the Raspian 
Jessie (Debian Linux) OS on this RPi.

Thanks, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

“What’s the difference between a carpenter and a woodworker? About 1/8 inch!"
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