[Elecraft] KXPD2 Keyer

[chuck gehring]

I just received my KXPD2 Keyer. First impressions are that it is very nice.
I say that only because the KXPD1 that I got for my KX1 was a booger to
adjust. My question is about the extra parts that arrived with the KXPD2,
came with a loose spring and two Allen screws. Additionally the photos I
have seen of the KXPD2 appear to show locking set screws that I assume lock
in the adjustment screws, and on mine those holes are tapped for screws but
no screws are there. The instructions mention that there is a compound on
the adjustment screws the prevent the adjustment screws from walking out.
Are the loose screws and spring spares?  Or are they something that I can
install?

73 K2CG
Chuck G
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle not working

[Dave New]

Gary,

There was an issue with early KXPD2 paddles where one or the other  
screws in the back of the assembly were slightly proud, and would  
short that side out against the KX2 chassis if the thumbscrews were  
completely tightened.


On my KX2, I now have a small chip of paint missing on the left side,  
where that screw head had scraped the paint a bit, shorting out that  
side of the paddle.  It turns out that when turning the KX2 on, if it  
senses a paddle line shorted, I think it ignores it, so depending on  
your specific situation, you may find that one side or the other of  
the paddle may not work, depending on which side was shorted when you  
turned on the radio.  If you leave the thumbscrews loose when turning  
it on, you may find it works, then if you tighten the thumbscrew, you  
will suddenly get repeating dots or dashes (depending on the shorted  
side).


I 'fixed' mine by filing down the screw head, and putting a bit of  
scotch tape over the paint chip.  Unless you are looking closely, it's  
not noticeable.


Elecraft did make alternate screws available for the KXPD2, but I  
never bothered.  It works fine for me, now.


73,

-- Dave, N8SBE

Quoting Gary Slagel via Elecraft :


Thanks Chris and Mike,
I initially tried a continuity check and had little luck confirming  
bad or good continuity.   I spent some time this morning putting it  
in, taking it out, adjusting spacing, etc.  Everything was pretty  
inconsistent.  For a while I had the left side of the paddle working  
and the right not working, for a while everything was fine and now,  
believe it or not the left paddle is working and the right paddle is  
working as long as I don't completely tighten the left thumbscrew  
that holds it on to the kx2 hihi!  I'd guess it needs a cleaning.   
I've misplaced the smaller allen wrench for the pivot screws so may  
try to round one up and see if I can get it apart and cleaned and  
back together.  Or... maybe leave that left thumbscrew a little  
loose :)!    

Thanks for both of your comeback!


Gary Slagel2226 Doran RdHot Springs, SD 57747(605) 890-2310KT0A
 

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 10:53:15 AM MST, Chris  
 wrote:


 Hi Gary,
You can disconnect the paddle and do a continuity check with your  
multimeter.  It seems that the problem is on the paddle.  You can  
easily disassemble it to see where the problem is.  I did clean  
mine, and it is fairly easy.

Best 73,
Chris KM1B

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:57 AM Gary Slagel via Elecraft  
 wrote:


The left side of my KXPD2 paddle is not working, the right side is  
fine.    I've reversed the CW KEY 2 setting and it continues to be  
the left side that doesn't work.
Is there a simple test I could do to determine if it is a paddle  
problem or a KX2 problem?  I don't have anyone local who owns a kx2  
so I've no way to test with another radio.

GaryKT0A
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle not working

[Gary Slagel via Elecraft]

Thanks Chris and Mike,
I initially tried a continuity check and had little luck confirming bad or good 
continuity.   I spent some time this morning putting it in, taking it out, 
adjusting spacing, etc.  Everything was pretty inconsistent.  For a while I had 
the left side of the paddle working and the right not working, for a while 
everything was fine and now, believe it or not the left paddle is working and 
the right paddle is working as long as I don't completely tighten the left 
thumbscrew that holds it on to the kx2 hihi!  I'd guess it needs a cleaning.  
I've misplaced the smaller allen wrench for the pivot screws so may try to 
round one up and see if I can get it apart and cleaned and back together.  
Or... maybe leave that left thumbscrew a little loose :)!    
Thanks for both of your comeback!


Gary Slagel2226 Doran RdHot Springs, SD 57747(605) 890-2310KT0A
  

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 10:53:15 AM MST, Chris  wrote: 
 
 
 Hi Gary,
You can disconnect the paddle and do a continuity check with your multimeter.  
It seems that the problem is on the paddle.  You can easily disassemble it to 
see where the problem is.  I did clean mine, and it is fairly easy.
Best 73,
Chris KM1B

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:57 AM Gary Slagel via Elecraft 
 wrote:

The left side of my KXPD2 paddle is not working, the right side is fine.    
I've reversed the CW KEY 2 setting and it continues to be the left side that 
doesn't work.
Is there a simple test I could do to determine if it is a paddle problem or a 
KX2 problem?  I don't have anyone local who owns a kx2 so I've no way to test 
with another radio.
GaryKT0A
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle not working

[Chris]

Hi Gary,

You can disconnect the paddle and do a continuity check with your
multimeter.  It seems that the problem is on the paddle.  You can easily
disassemble it to see where the problem is.  I did clean mine, and it is
fairly easy.

Best 73,

Chris KM1B


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:57 AM Gary Slagel via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> The left side of my KXPD2 paddle is not working, the right side is fine.
>   I've reversed the CW KEY 2 setting and it continues to be the left side
> that doesn't work.
> Is there a simple test I could do to determine if it is a paddle problem
> or a KX2 problem?  I don't have anyone local who owns a kx2 so I've no way
> to test with another radio.
> GaryKT0A
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[Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle not working

[Gary Slagel via Elecraft]

The left side of my KXPD2 paddle is not working, the right side is fine.    
I've reversed the CW KEY 2 setting and it continues to be the left side that 
doesn't work.
Is there a simple test I could do to determine if it is a paddle problem or a 
KX2 problem?  I don't have anyone local who owns a kx2 so I've no way to test 
with another radio.
GaryKT0A
 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft KXPD2 Keyer Paddle For Sale

[Doug Eaton via Elecraft]

For Sale: KXPD2 Keyer Paddle for KX2 or KX3 transceivers.Used and in very good 
condition.  Attaches to the front ofeither transceiver with included captive 
screws.$75.00 shipped to lower 48 states. 
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[Elecraft] KXPD2 screws

[Frederick Dwight]

I have thoroughly enjoyed my KXPD2 iambic paddle.  I do not consider the finger 
spacing “bizarrely wide”.  My Kent dual lever paddle which I used happily for 
decades, is spaced about the same.  We all have our own preferences, so when I 
ordered my N3ZN paddle some years ago I did opt for a model with slightly less 
space.  We all have our preferences, and if a parameter happens to be 
important, great, specify that. I have used dozens of paddles in my 66 year ham 
career, some with wide spaces, some narrow, some with magnetic return, some 
spring return and made peace with nearly all of them, even with my KX1 paddle 
which I still use occasionally for ultra portability.  Personally if I was 
budget constrained I could easily enjoy my KX2 paddle or even the old Kent wide 
spaced paddle as my only paddle.  I have even tested and used some of the 
foreign paddles in my shack which I am sure cost well over $500 and consider 
the KXPD2, even with its wide spaced finger pieces, a close second choice.  
Perhaps this is not relevant, but I enjoy very hot sauce on nearly everything.  
I do not consider mild hot sauce inferior, or expect others to choke down my 
sauce.
   Just an old CW guy,   Rick  KL7CW

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 screws

[Mike Morrow]

Refer to the instruction sheet for the KXPD2:
  
 
https://ftp.elecraft.com/KX2/Manuals%20Downloads/E740295%20KXPD2%20Paddle%20Instructions%20Rev%20C.pdf

This states that the thumb screws are 4-40 half-inch long.

I regret greatly my purchase of the KXPD2 in 2017.  It is the worst iambic key 
I've used in the past 40 years, with a bizarrely wide finger spacing that's 
twice that of the KXPD3 and all other iambic keys I've used.  It permits 
adjustment of contact spacing only and not the important spacing between 
paddles.  The paddle finger spacing is so wide as to be unusable.  Mine arrived 
missing one of the set screws (not shown or listed in the instruction sheet) 
designed to lock the contact spacing set screws.  The key came with a spare 
spring that is not described in the instructions (is it the same spring force 
as the installed spring?). The key requires two different Allen wrenches, but 
has a storage channel in the key frame for only one.  The design should have 
used only one size Allen wrench for ALL adjustments.

I suggest caveat emptor for the KXPD2 and the MH3, just as I did 20 years ago 
for the K1 KTS1 and KBT1.

Everything else Elecraft that I've owned since 2000 has been great, except for 
the radiant heat-absorbing paint job on the KX2.

Mike / KK5F

-Original Message-
>From: Alastair Bolton via Elecraft 
>Sent: Nov 16, 2020 3:37 PM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 screws
>
>Hello,
>I’ve been offered a secondhand KXPD2 key for my KX3 but it’s missing the 
>screws to attach it to the radio’s case. I’m loath to experiment with random 
>fasteners so could someone please inform me what size the retaining screws are?
>Thank you,
>Al G4VSQ 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 screws

[Jim H via Elecraft]

Hi Al,The screws are 4X40 1/2 " length. Elecraft # is E700245.. I highly 
recommend using these because of the printed circuit board behind the case and 
impossible to see. You might try the British Elecraft distributer.Oh, the KXPD3 
uses the same screw..73,Jim HK7sss In a message dated 11/16/2020 1:39:46 PM 
Pacific Standard Time, elecraft@mailman.qth.net writes: 
Hello,I’ve been offered a secondhand KXPD2 key for my KX3 but it’s missing the 
screws to attach it to the radio’s case. I’m loath to experiment with random 
fasteners so could someone please inform me what size the retaining screws 
are?Thank you,Al G4VSQ  Sent from my 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 screws

[Don Wilhelm]

Al,

The screw size is 6-32 (not metric).
But do contact Elecraft to obtain the proper screws.  If the screws 
project too far inside the KX3 enclosure, the PC board will be damaged.
I do know it can take a while to get items 'across the pond', but for 
the health of your KX3, get the proper screws.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/16/2020 4:37 PM, Alastair Bolton via Elecraft wrote:

Hello,
I’ve been offered a secondhand KXPD2 key for my KX3 but it’s missing the screws 
to attach it to the radio’s case. I’m loath to experiment with random fasteners 
so could someone please inform me what size the retaining screws are?
Thank you,

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 screws

[QRP5W]

I can't help you with the screw size, but I recommend contacting
Elecraft on this. The point on one of the screws is ground down to
eliminate some type of physical interference in the KX3. It would be
wise to use the screws that come with the paddle.
72
Howard Kraus, K2UD

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Cc: 
Sent: Monday November 16 2020 4:38:56PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 screws

Hello,
 I’ve been offered a secondhand KXPD2 key for my KX3 but it’s
missing the screws to attach it to the radio’s case. I’m loath to
experiment with random fasteners so could someone please inform me
what size the retaining screws are?
 Thank you,
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[Elecraft] KXPD2 screws

[Alastair Bolton via Elecraft]

Hello,
I’ve been offered a secondhand KXPD2 key for my KX3 but it’s missing the screws 
to attach it to the radio’s case. I’m loath to experiment with random fasteners 
so could someone please inform me what size the retaining screws are?
Thank you,
Al G4VSQ 

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 Extra Spring?

[Lou Voerman W2ROW]

I just received a new KXPD2 paddle from Elecraft. In the envelope was a
loose, extra spring with no documentation as to its purpose. Does anyone
know if the extra spring is the same as the original or is it some kind of
tension adjustment like the three different springs that came with the
KXPD3?

Also there are now two allen screws per paddle one to set the adjustment and
one to lock it in. All the documentation I could find showed only the one
adjustment screw per paddle.

I did email Elecraft support about the spring but no answer yet.

Thanks,
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[Elecraft] KXPD2 For Sale

[Roger Meadows via Elecraft]

Just bought a new portable paddle and not using my KXPD2 anymore. Only used a 
few times in the field. Will sell for $95. Includes shipping within the CONUS 
via USPS.

Contact romead...@icloud.com  for more info.

73,
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[Elecraft] Elecraft KXPD2 Attached Precision Keyer Paddle

[Ron Gould]

Elecraft KXPD2 Attached Precision Keyer Paddle, like new never used. $100 
shipped USA, less than one year old.
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 - Iambic B

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

The numbers I use for spacing and pressure for all of my keys, single 
lever paddle, dual lever paddle and straight keys are as follows.


Contact spacing is adjusted with an automotive type or machinist type 
feeler gauge to .005" or 0.13mm


The pressure to close the contact, measured at the tip of the level is 
20 to 30 grams measure with a push type spring scale.


All of my keys are adjusted accordingly.   Thus changing from one to 
another is not an issue.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 9/22/2017 10:05 AM, Brian Hunt wrote:

I initially had a similar problem - KXPD2 failing to key dahs properly/reliably. The main reason 
was the contact spacing was too close. I like a light touch and close spacing. I spent quite a bit 
of time adjusting the pivot pin play using the small allen wrench provided. You want them tight 
enough to not allow the paddle to "wobble" but not so tight that it binds. Once those 
adjustments are made, set the contact spacing where you like it but wide enough for the 
"swing" needed to make reliable contact. You can also use a small strip of stiff paper 
slid between the contacts to clear out any dust or corrosion.

73,
Brian, K0DTJ
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 - Iambic B

[Brian Hunt]

I initially had a similar problem - KXPD2 failing to key dahs 
properly/reliably. The main reason was the contact spacing was too close. I 
like a light touch and close spacing. I spent quite a bit of time adjusting the 
pivot pin play using the small allen wrench provided. You want them tight 
enough to not allow the paddle to "wobble" but not so tight that it binds. Once 
those adjustments are made, set the contact spacing where you like it but wide 
enough for the "swing" needed to make reliable contact. You can also use a 
small strip of stiff paper slid between the contacts to clear out any dust or 
corrosion. 

73,
Brian, K0DTJ
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 - Iambic B

[G4GNX]

That paddle behavior is not correct.

I suspect that you have either a faulty paddle or it's just badly adjusted, 
with the contacts too close.


I've had a paddle give strange results, where one paddle pulled on the 
wiring when operated, which in turn pulled the wire on the opposite paddle 
and made it operate too.


AFAIK there's nothing in software/firmware to allow that behavior to be set.

73,

Alan. G4GNX

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Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:37 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 - Iambic B

Just starting to use my KPXD2 paddles on my KX2. I have them set to Iambic 
B.

The left paddle will give only dits if pressed and held any length of time.
The right paddle when pressed will give either dahs or fits and dahs,
depending on length of press. I can do a R or K by pressing the right paddle
alone.

My other dual paddles don't do that. Am I missing something? I've removed
and replaced a few times.

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 - Iambic B

[MaverickNH]

Just starting to use my KPXD2 paddles on my KX2. I have them set to Iambic B.
The left paddle will give only dits if pressed and held any length of time.
The right paddle when pressed will give either dahs or fits and dahs,
depending on length of press. I can do a R or K by pressing the right paddle
alone.

My other dual paddles don't do that. Am I missing something? I've removed
and replaced a few times.

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 difficulties

[Augie "Gus" Hansen]

Be sure the plug is fully inserted into the jack. Sounds like you have 
only one of the two circuits connected. Unless you have set up for left 
handed operation the dots should be on the left.


73,
Gus Hansen
KB0YH


On 9/11/2017 1:28 PM, Hayden wrote:

Though I was a CW operator many years ago in the military, I am having to 
relearn an old skill.  However, the relearning is coming along nicely.   What I 
find that I have more difficulty with is the complexity of modern ham 
operations and equipment.  Thinking that I would try to go beyond a straight 
key, I purchased the KXPD2 for my KX2.  But I am having trouble just getting 
both levers functional.  When I go into the menu, I find that I can get the 
right paddle to be either dot, dash, or Hand, but can get nothing (as in no 
sidetone/sound) from the left lever. For example, under CW KEY 2 it will show 
left = dASH.   The right lever will throw out a nice string of dots, but the 
left lever does nothing.   I know that this is going to be something simple, 
but what am I missing?  Thanks, Hayden Wilson  KN4FLN

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 difficulties

[Hayden]

Though I was a CW operator many years ago in the military, I am having to 
relearn an old skill.  However, the relearning is coming along nicely.   What I 
find that I have more difficulty with is the complexity of modern ham 
operations and equipment.  Thinking that I would try to go beyond a straight 
key, I purchased the KXPD2 for my KX2.  But I am having trouble just getting 
both levers functional.  When I go into the menu, I find that I can get the 
right paddle to be either dot, dash, or Hand, but can get nothing (as in no 
sidetone/sound) from the left lever. For example, under CW KEY 2 it will show 
left = dASH.   The right lever will throw out a nice string of dots, but the 
left lever does nothing.   I know that this is going to be something simple, 
but what am I missing?  Thanks, Hayden Wilson  KN4FLN

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 contact post screws...

[Don Wilhelm]

Tom,

I do not know, but I would expect the screw size to be either 4-40 or if 
smaller, 2-56.  Elecraft uses US sized screws.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/19/2017 11:42 AM, Tom Francis, W1TEF wrote:

It is what it is - what I need is to size the screws that hold the 
contact posts in place

so I can experiment with longer screws.

Anybody happen to know what the screw size is?  

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 contact post screws...

[Tom Francis, W1TEF]

Greetings,

I've been plagued with an issue involving the KXPD2 paddles contact posts,
namely the posts coming loose and the screws so loose that the posts 
actually
fall out of the paddles.  This is not a one-off issue - I've been 
through four sets
of these paddles and they all succumb to the same problem.  I've tried 
non-hardening
Loc-Tite, Loc-Tite blue goo - in short everything other than Permatex to 
hold

the screws and contact posts in place - nothing seems to have any effect on
the posts coming loose.

After thinking about it, and experimenting a little, I've come to the 
conclusion
that the issue is the screws, not the posts - I believe that the screws 
are too short
and need to be longer to properly keep tension on the posts under normal 
use.


I'm also convinced that the minor "warming" of the area where the KXPD2 
attaches
to the radio exacerbates the problem - this may be just my own idea 
conceptually

and I realize it seems unlikely to be a problem, but you never know.

It is what it is - what I need is to size the screws that hold the 
contact posts in place

so I can experiment with longer screws.

Anybody happen to know what the screw size is?  And before you ask, yes 
I know
about "better" keys and I do use them, but I want to solve this issue as 
I really like
the idea of the built in paddles - it's very convenient when operating 
mobile.


Very best regards,

Tom, W1TEF


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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Paddle

[K9ZTV]

Tom ...

I feel your pain but not your conclusion.  For me the post-loosening problem 
was solved with Loctite Blue.  Since that didn't work for you, Loctite Red is 
the next logical step.  If that doesn't work, JB Weld most certainly will.  
Just a drop of either adhesive coating the entire shank of the screw(s) will 
absolutely make that a permanent cure.  Carefully done, the fix is invisible.  
Why Elecraft doesn't do it as a routine step in the manufacturing process I 
don't know. 

The KXPD2 is an excellent mini-paddle once the posts are permanently anchored. 

73,

Kent  K9ZTV



> On May 28, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Tom Francis, W1TEF  wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> First, before I go any further, I have nothing but the highest regard for 
> Elecraft's Customer
> Support and Service.  I've had several issues with my KX2 that were due to 
> operator error
> and Elecraft has fixed my self-induced KX2 injuries quickly and efficiently. 
> Plus, I've had
> a couple of other dealings with Customer Service all outstanding.
> 
> However. ;-)
> 
> I've been dealing with a KXPD2 paddle issue since I purchased my KX2 last 
> year. I've gone
> through four of them all with the exact same problem.
> 
> To wit: After use, say half hour or so, the contact posts loosen up and the 
> CW becomes
> impossible.  I've tried everything I know how to do - Loc-Tite blue goo, used 
> a mini-torque
> wrench to set torque, pushed the envelope with tightening up the screws - the 
> contact posts
> loosen up.
> 
> I have a very light touch with my paddles with very close spacing as CW is my 
> primary
> mode of choice for 54 years.  So I don't think that its heavy tapping or wide 
> spacing
> that is causing the problem.  If I were to guess, I believe it is a 
> dissimilar materials issue -
> metal screws, plastic base, warm radio causing the plastic to expand JUST 
> THAT LITTLE
> BIT to loosen up the screws.
> 
> Now here's the thing - four paddles all having the same issue on the same 
> radio with
> the same operator seems to be indicative of a manufacturing problem.
> 
> Maybe it is peculiar to me - I'm not discounting that, but it seems unusual. 
> What I'm
> wondering is if anybody else who owns and uses these paddles have the same 
> issue?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Very best regards,
> 
> Tom, W1TEF
> Lexington, SC

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 Paddle

[Tom Francis, W1TEF]

Greetings,

First, before I go any further, I have nothing but the highest regard 
for Elecraft's Customer
Support and Service.  I've had several issues with my KX2 that were due 
to operator error
and Elecraft has fixed my self-induced KX2 injuries quickly and 
efficiently. Plus, I've had

a couple of other dealings with Customer Service all outstanding.

However. ;-)

I've been dealing with a KXPD2 paddle issue since I purchased my KX2 
last year. I've gone

through four of them all with the exact same problem.

To wit: After use, say half hour or so, the contact posts loosen up and 
the CW becomes
impossible.  I've tried everything I know how to do - Loc-Tite blue goo, 
used a mini-torque
wrench to set torque, pushed the envelope with tightening up the screws 
- the contact posts

loosen up.

I have a very light touch with my paddles with very close spacing as CW 
is my primary
mode of choice for 54 years.  So I don't think that its heavy tapping or 
wide spacing
that is causing the problem.  If I were to guess, I believe it is a 
dissimilar materials issue -
metal screws, plastic base, warm radio causing the plastic to expand 
JUST THAT LITTLE

BIT to loosen up the screws.

Now here's the thing - four paddles all having the same issue on the 
same radio with

the same operator seems to be indicative of a manufacturing problem.

Maybe it is peculiar to me - I'm not discounting that, but it seems 
unusual. What I'm
wondering is if anybody else who owns and uses these paddles have the 
same issue?


Thanks.

Very best regards,

Tom, W1TEF
Lexington, SC
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[Jim Finan]

Re: Loctite:

I'd suggest Loctite 'Purple' (222). Still accomplishes the task but much easier 
to adjust/disassemble later. Especially important with small fasteners and 
tools.

If you're installing 6mm, 8mm bolts on your car, Blue is likely the best choice.

73,

Jim

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  Original Message  
From: K9ZTV
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:33 PM
To: Peter LaBissoniere
Cc: Converse, Robert; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

Temporary emergency solution: eye-glass kit containing small Phillips 
screwdriver available at any convenience store, airport, hotel, notions 
counter, drug store, etc.

Permanent but removable solution: screw-threads lightly coated with Loctite 
Blue (not Loctite Red).

Kent K9ZTV



> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Peter LaBissoniere  wrote:
> 
> I have the same issue. I'm thinking the little screws are too small to handle 
> the constant side "attack" pressure of keying from higher up on the posts. 
> I'm afraid I will crack the lexan/plastic if tightened to much and won't help 
> for long anyway. Seems they should have also been secured at the top?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Converse, Robert  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts coming 
>> loose on the KXPD2 paddles. I keep experiencing this problem, and can't keep 
>> the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get through a QSO.
>> 
>> I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if 
>> anyone has a fix for this problem. I would prefer to avoid loss of use of 
>> the paddles for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to 
>> Maryland.
>> 
>> Bob, WO3E
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[Walter Underwood]

That awl on my Boy Scout knife? The end works pretty well as an emergency 
Phillips screwdriver.

wunder
K6WRU
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> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:32 PM, K9ZTV  wrote:
> 
> Temporary emergency solution:  eye-glass kit containing small Phillips 
> screwdriver available at any convenience store, airport, hotel, notions 
> counter, drug store, etc.
> 
> Permanent but removable solution: screw-threads lightly coated with Loctite 
> Blue (not Loctite Red).
> 
> Kent  K9ZTV
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Peter LaBissoniere  wrote:
>> 
>> I have the same issue. I'm thinking the little screws are too small to 
>> handle the constant side "attack" pressure of keying from higher up on the 
>> posts. I'm afraid I will crack the lexan/plastic if tightened to much and 
>> won't help for long anyway. Seems they should have also been secured at the 
>> top?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Converse, Robert 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts 
>>> coming loose on the KXPD2 paddles.  I keep experiencing this problem, and 
>>> can't keep the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get 
>>> through a QSO.
>>> 
>>> I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if 
>>> anyone has a fix for this problem.  I would prefer to avoid loss of use of 
>>> the paddles for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to 
>>> Maryland.
>>> 
>>> Bob, WO3E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[K9ZTV]

Temporary emergency solution:  eye-glass kit containing small Phillips 
screwdriver available at any convenience store, airport, hotel, notions 
counter, drug store, etc.

Permanent but removable solution: screw-threads lightly coated with Loctite 
Blue (not Loctite Red).

Kent  K9ZTV



> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Peter LaBissoniere  wrote:
> 
> I have the same issue. I'm thinking the little screws are too small to handle 
> the constant side "attack" pressure of keying from higher up on the posts. 
> I'm afraid I will crack the lexan/plastic if tightened to much and won't help 
> for long anyway. Seems they should have also been secured at the top?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Converse, Robert  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts coming 
>> loose on the KXPD2 paddles.  I keep experiencing this problem, and can't 
>> keep the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get through a 
>> QSO.
>> 
>> I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if 
>> anyone has a fix for this problem.  I would prefer to avoid loss of use of 
>> the paddles for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to 
>> Maryland.
>> 
>> Bob, WO3E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This e-mail message is intended only for individual(s) to whom it is 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[Peter LaBissoniere]

I have the same issue. I'm thinking the little screws are too small to handle 
the constant side "attack" pressure of keying from higher up on the posts. I'm 
afraid I will crack the lexan/plastic if tightened to much and won't help for 
long anyway. Seems they should have also been secured at the top?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Converse, Robert  
> wrote:
> 
> A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts coming 
> loose on the KXPD2 paddles.  I keep experiencing this problem, and can't keep 
> the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get through a QSO.
> 
> I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if anyone 
> has a fix for this problem.  I would prefer to avoid loss of use of the 
> paddles for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to Maryland.
> 
> Bob, WO3E
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] KXPD2 paddle problem

[Converse, Robert]

A few weeks ago there was some discussion regarding the contact posts coming 
loose on the KXPD2 paddles.  I keep experiencing this problem, and can't keep 
the philips screws on the posts tight for long enough to get through a QSO.

I'm reluctant to overtighten the screws or use Loc-tite, and wonder if anyone 
has a fix for this problem.  I would prefer to avoid loss of use of the paddles 
for the two-week round trip time to the factory and back to Maryland.

Bob, WO3E



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[Elecraft] KXPD2

[David F. Reed]

I just received my KXPD2 yesterday and spent a while adjusting it to my 
taste.


I am very pleased with its feel and quality and have to admit it was 
worth the wait.


72 de Dave, W5SV

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 ARRIVED

[lmarion]

KXPD2 came today and it works great right out of the box.  Man, the KX2 is a 
super fun rig. 

It is in  time to show it off at the Glacier/Waterton hamfest this coming 
weekend.

  No KPOD  yet though.

Leroy AB7CE
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[Elecraft] KXPD2 shipping status

[Edward Kacura via Elecraft]

One thing I've learned about Elecraft in the last almost 10 yrs, is that good 
things come to those who wait !
I've yet to be disappointed by them, the crew at Elecraft are the BEST IMHO !!!
I'll gladly wait..

Ed
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Shipping status?

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We had a minor production glitch last week and are awaiting delivery of a part 
for the KXPD2 today or tomorrow. We should begin shipping KXPD2s against the 
backlog later this week. I'll update the status page to reflect this.


73,

Eric
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On 7/5/2016 7:05 AM, David F. Reed wrote:
On the shipping status page, it says "*KXPD2 **Expected to Ship by June 28, 
2016"**; *here it is July 5th... Any news or update?

anxiously awaiting...

72 de W5SV

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Shipping status?

[Phil Wheeler]

Last Shipping Status update was June 17, so ... .

Lots of us are waiting, so you have company, 
grasshopper :-)


Phil W7OX

On 7/5/16 7:05 AM, David F. Reed wrote:
On the shipping status page, it says "*KXPD2 
**Expected to Ship by June 28, 2016"**; *here it 
is July 5th... Any news or update?

anxiously awaiting...

72 de W5SV


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[Elecraft] KXPD2 Shipping status?

[David F. Reed]

On the shipping status page, it says "*KXPD2 **Expected to Ship by June 
28, 2016"**; *here it is July 5th... Any news or update?

anxiously awaiting...

72 de W5SV

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 shipping?

[Bruce Nourish]

The website says June 28th, but I haven't heard anything on my order. No
rush, just curious.

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 shipping status

[Joe W2KJ]

Howdy Gang:

Has anyone heard of the KXPD2 paddle shipping yet?

Thanks for any info.

73, Joe W2KJ
KX2 s/n 347
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3

[Nr4c]

The KXPD2 is smaller and a newer design. I'd wait for the new one. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jun 11, 2016, at 4:14 AM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is 
> available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. But 
> for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile.
> 
> My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the 
> KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2.
> 
> So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the 
> KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot 
> at using the KXPD2):
> 
> * What are the differences between these two
>   options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher
>   in price, but I'm more interested in
>   construction and performance (how they feel)
>   differences.
> * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the
>   only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size?
> * Are there other factors I should consider?
> 
> Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input 
> appreciated!
> 
> 73, Phil W7OX
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

Sounds like ordering the KXPD2 was the right move 
for me, Ron. Good to have the confirmation from 
you and Don.


73, Phil W7OX

On 6/11/16 8:37 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

In addition to Don's observation about the length of the paddles (and so the
tendency to move the rig around on the desk while slapping away), so far the
KXPD2 does not have an option of heavy or light springs. As a bit of a
"slapper" myself, I never saw the need for lighter or heavier springs, but I
know that is of concern to some.

Also, the KXPD2 features a special anti-vibration treatment of the
adjustment screws that helps keep them in place.

And lastly, only ONE wrench is required to adjust he contact spacing, and
that wrench has a stowage location on the bottom of the paddles so it's
always handy.

73, Ron AC7AC

  


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil
Wheeler
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:14 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector; k...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3

I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is
available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3.
But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile.

My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the
KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2.

So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the
KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot
at using the KXPD2):

   * What are the differences between these two
 options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher
 in price, but I'm more interested in
 construction and performance (how they feel)
 differences.
   * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the
 only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size?
   * Are there other factors I should consider?

Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input
appreciated!

73, Phil W7OX


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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

In addition to Don's observation about the length of the paddles (and so the
tendency to move the rig around on the desk while slapping away), so far the
KXPD2 does not have an option of heavy or light springs. As a bit of a
"slapper" myself, I never saw the need for lighter or heavier springs, but I
know that is of concern to some. 

Also, the KXPD2 features a special anti-vibration treatment of the
adjustment screws that helps keep them in place. 

And lastly, only ONE wrench is required to adjust he contact spacing, and
that wrench has a stowage location on the bottom of the paddles so it's
always handy. 

73, Ron AC7AC

 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil
Wheeler
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:14 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector; k...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3

I just received my KX2, and have planned to add the KXPD2 as soon as it is
available. No KXPD3 on hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. 
But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller profile.

My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from photos here and there that the
KXPD3 looks nice on the KX2.

So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for my KX2, rather than the
KXPD2. My questions are (and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a shot
at using the KXPD2):

  * What are the differences between these two
options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher
in price, but I'm more interested in
construction and performance (how they feel)
differences.
  * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the
only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size?
  * Are there other factors I should consider?

Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in the dark -- so any input
appreciated!

73, Phil W7OX

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[Elecraft] KXPD2 Vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

I just received my KX2, and have planned to add 
the KXPD2 as soon as it is available. No KXPD3 on 
hand because I use a Begali Adventure with my KX3. 
But for the KX2 I'd like a paddle with a smaller 
profile.


My KX2 order included a KXPD2, but I see from 
photos here and there that the KXPD3 looks nice on 
the KX2.


So now I'm wondering if I should get the KXPD3 for 
my KX2, rather than the KXPD2. My questions are 
(and hopefully the KX2 field testers have had a 
shot at using the KXPD2):


 * What are the differences between these two
   options? I see the KXPD3 is $20 or so higher
   in price, but I'm more interested in
   construction and performance (how they feel)
   differences.
 * Is one easier to use than the other, or is the
   only plus of the KXPD2 its smaller size?
 * Are there other factors I should consider?

Since I've not used the KXPD3, I'm pretty much in 
the dark -- so any input appreciated!


73, Phil W7OX

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

Oops: I'll order the KXPD2, as much for its 
smaller size than anything: Seems more consistent 
with the philosophy and size of the KX2.


Too many KX this and that :-)

73, Phil

On 5/23/16 4:55 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Thanks, Don. Well, I wish I had a 'soft touch', 
but I'm more of a banger. May have to put add 
weight to the KX2 (or figure out a weighted base 
for it) when using it with a paddle mounted to it.


I'll order the KX2, as much for its smaller size 
than anything: Seems more consistent with the 
philosophy and size of the KX2.


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 4:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3.  As 
Eric pointed out in his talk at FDIM, he has 
trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 
around because the paddles are further away 
from the enclosure that with the KXPD2 design.


Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the 
paddles it may not make much of a difference to 
you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare 
these two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, 
aside from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will 
likely just leave it there so want a dedicated 
KX2 paddle.







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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

Thanks, Don. Well, I wish I had a 'soft touch', 
but I'm more of a banger. May have to put add 
weight to the KX2 (or figure out a weighted base 
for it) when using it with a paddle mounted to it.


I'll order the KX2, as much for its smaller size 
than anything: Seems more consistent with the 
philosophy and size of the KX2.


73, Phil W7OX

On 5/23/16 4:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Phil,

I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3.  As 
Eric pointed out in his talk at FDIM, he has 
trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 
around because the paddles are further away from 
the enclosure that with the KXPD2 design.


Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the 
paddles it may not make much of a difference to 
you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare 
these two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, 
aside from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will 
likely just leave it there so want a dedicated 
KX2 paddle.







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Re: [Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Don Wilhelm]

Phil,

I would suggest the KXPD2 over the KXPD3.  As Eric pointed out in his 
talk at FDIM, he has trouble with the KXPD3 moving even his KX3 around 
because the paddles are further away from the enclosure that with the 
KXPD2 design.


Of course, if you have a 'soft touch' on the paddles it may not make 
much of a difference to you.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2016 5:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare these two? I want to order 
one for my KX2 but, aside from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will likely just leave it there 
so want a dedicated KX2 paddle.




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[Elecraft] KXPD2 vs. KXPD3

[Phil Wheeler]

Likely a bit early, but can anyone compare these 
two? I want to order one for my KX2 but, aside 
from size, I don't know the difference.


I use a Begali Adventure on my KX3 but will likely 
just leave it there so want a dedicated KX2 paddle.


73, Phil W7OX
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