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[Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Lyn Haddock

I’m trying to connect my KX3/PX3 rig to a Linux computer to use the Utility 
programs. I’m have tried to connect to two different computers running both 
Mint 17 and Ubuntu 14.04 with no luck so far.

From what I can tell, these Linux distros should both natively support FTDI 
chips for VCP connections. The FTDI site confirms this and only provides 
instructions for replacing the VCP driver with a D2XX driver.

I can see the FTDI device using “lsusb” when plug the KXUSB in. However, the 
KXUSB apparently can’t connect to /dev/ttyusb0 to let me use the KX3 or PX3 
Utilities.

When i unplug the KXUSB from the USB port on either Linux box and plug it into 
my Mac, all is well. It even works when I reboot the same PC to WIN7 instead of 
Ubuntu. What am I missing?

Thanks,
Lyn - KC8I
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Nate Bargmann

* On 2014 06 Nov 11:28 -0600, Lyn Haddock wrote:
> I’m trying to connect my KX3/PX3 rig to a Linux computer to use the
> Utility programs. I’m have tried to connect to two different computers
> running both Mint 17 and Ubuntu 14.04 with no luck so far.
> 
> From what I can tell, these Linux distros should both natively support
> FTDI chips for VCP connections. The FTDI site confirms this and only
> provides instructions for replacing the VCP driver with a D2XX driver.
> 
> I can see the FTDI device using “lsusb” when plug the KXUSB
> in. However, the KXUSB apparently can’t connect to /dev/ttyusb0 to let
> me use the KX3 or PX3 Utilities.

Hi Lyn.

Most likely the name of the port is /dev/ttyUSB0 as that has been
standard convention for some time.  Case matters in file names.  If you
are typing the name correctly, then all I can think of is that your
username may not be a member of the 'dialout' group.  You can easily
check this in a terminal by typing the 'groups' command.

There are various ways to do add your username to the 'dialout' group,
as I recall, both Mint and Ubunutu offer a graphical program to manage
your user's group membership.

> When i unplug the KXUSB from the USB port on either Linux box and plug
> it into my Mac, all is well. It even works when I reboot the same PC
> to WIN7 instead of Ubuntu. What am I missing?

I don't know about OS/X, but I recall that Windows will automatically
make the device available to a non-privileged user.  The Linux
distributions are a bit more careful about security in this regard which
sometimes seems like a bit of undue paranoia.

73, Nate

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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread David Shoaf

Hi Lyn,

Nate is on the right track.  

Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
platform.

1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
a terminal:

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

2) FTP must be installed on your Linux
 
You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have
it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly
 
Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have
read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:
 
sudo adduser << your username>> dialout
 
Cheers,

David
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long

Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
x86_64.

This is a bit of a problem for me with my desktop linux computer.  I can still
use an older version of Ubuntu x86_64 on my laptop with kx3util but that version
of Ubuntu is unsupported now and will have to be updated to something more
modern very soon.

When will a 64-bit release be provided for kx3util? It really is needed now.

There's not much point releasing firmware upgrades for radios if you don't
update the tools to run with modern OS releases and 32-bit is so 20th century :P

Cheers,

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 20:23, David Shoaf wrote:
> Hi Lyn,
> 
> Nate is on the right track.  
> 
> Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
> present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
> platform.
> 
> 1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions
> 
> The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
> distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
> allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
> a terminal:
> 
> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
> 
> 2) FTP must be installed on your Linux
>  
> You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have
> it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:
> 
> sudo apt-get install curl
> 
> 3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly
>  
> Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have
> read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
> access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
> way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:
>  
> sudo adduser << your username>> dialout
>  
> Cheers,
> 
> David
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long

It fails for me with the response:

Failed to find/load Framework library
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I've not figured out how to get a 32 bit version of that package installed.  It
would be nice if David could provide instructions for using the 32-bit kx3util
with Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 if it is actually expected to work.


Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 21:01, John Nogatch wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Darren Long  wrote:
>> Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
>> x86_64.
> 
> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 64b, & k3util works OK without ia32-libs:
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ lsb_release -a
> No LSB modules are available.
> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
> Release: 14.04
> Codename: trusty
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ uname -a
> Linux ac6sl11 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:30:27 UTC
> 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ file k3util
> k3util: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ ldd k3util
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf76eb000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76ba000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf769e000)
> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf75b4000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf756e000)
> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf7551000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf73a1000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76ec000)
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ dpkg -l 'ia32*'
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name   Version  Architecture
>   Description
> +++-==---=
> un  ia32-apt-get  
>   (no description available)
> 
> 
> There are some warnings from the graphics library, & some of the
> colors are not right, but k3util is usable.
> 
> 
>>> Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, ...
> 
> I find that some udev entries are creating devices with group
> "plugdev", so I have added both dialout & plugdev to my groups.
> 
> -John AC6SL
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long

I figured it out.  I had to run these commands to install some i836 stuff ...

sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386
sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk0:i386


It seems to work now.  Hopefully this info will be useful for those trying to
use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on arch x86_64.

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 21:14, Darren Long wrote:
> It fails for me with the response:
> 
> Failed to find/load Framework library
> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> I've not figured out how to get a 32 bit version of that package installed.  
> It
> would be nice if David could provide instructions for using the 32-bit kx3util
> with Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 if it is actually expected to work.
> 
> 
> Darren, G0HWW
> 
> On 06/11/14 21:01, John Nogatch wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Darren Long  wrote:
>>> Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
>>> x86_64.
>>
>> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 64b, & k3util works OK without ia32-libs:
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ lsb_release -a
>> No LSB modules are available.
>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
>> Release: 14.04
>> Codename: trusty
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ uname -a
>> Linux ac6sl11 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:30:27 UTC
>> 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ file k3util
>> k3util: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ ldd k3util
>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf76eb000)
>> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76ba000)
>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf769e000)
>> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf75b4000)
>> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf756e000)
>> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf7551000)
>> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf73a1000)
>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76ec000)
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ dpkg -l 'ia32*'
>> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>> | 
>> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
>> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
>> ||/ Name   Version  Architecture
>>   Description
>> +++-==---=
>> un  ia32-apt-get  
>>   (no description available)
>>
>>
>> There are some warnings from the graphics library, & some of the
>> colors are not right, but k3util is usable.
>>
>>
 Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, ...
>>
>> I find that some udev entries are creating devices with group
>> "plugdev", so I have added both dialout & plugdev to my groups.
>>
>> -John AC6SL
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long

Thanks for the link.

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 21:35, John Nogatch wrote:
>> ... instructions for using the 32-bit kx3util
>> with Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 ...
> 
> 
> "Re: [Elecraft] How to run linux utilities (K3, KPA etc.) on 64 bit
> Ubuntu 14.04"
> 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg169946.html
> 
> That is probably the procedure that I followed.
> 
> -John AC6SL
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan


On 06. nov. 2014 21:42, Darren Long wrote:

Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
x86_64.


It is now called libc6-i386. So the command to install it is

sudo apt-get install libc6-i386

Jon LA4RT




This is a bit of a problem for me with my desktop linux computer.  I can still
use an older version of Ubuntu x86_64 on my laptop with kx3util but that version
of Ubuntu is unsupported now and will have to be updated to something more
modern very soon.

When will a 64-bit release be provided for kx3util? It really is needed now.

There's not much point releasing firmware upgrades for radios if you don't
update the tools to run with modern OS releases and 32-bit is so 20th century :P

Cheers,

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 20:23, David Shoaf wrote:

Hi Lyn,

Nate is on the right track.

Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
platform.

1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
a terminal:

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

2) FTP must be installed on your Linux

You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have
it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly

Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have
read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:

sudo adduser << your username>> dialout

Cheers,

David


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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Phil Wheeler


Google ia32-libs. You may find some ideas.

Phil W7OX

On 11/6/14 12:42 PM, Darren Long wrote:

Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
x86_64.

This is a bit of a problem for me with my desktop linux computer.  I can still
use an older version of Ubuntu x86_64 on my laptop with kx3util but that version
of Ubuntu is unsupported now and will have to be updated to something more
modern very soon.

When will a 64-bit release be provided for kx3util? It really is needed now.

There's not much point releasing firmware upgrades for radios if you don't
update the tools to run with modern OS releases and 32-bit is so 20th century :P

Cheers,

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 20:23, David Shoaf wrote:

Hi Lyn,

Nate is on the right track.

Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
platform.

1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
a terminal:

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

2) FTP must be installed on your Linux
  
You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have

it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly
  
Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have

read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:
  
sudo adduser << your username>> dialout
  
Cheers,


David


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[Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux - Success with Mint

2014-11-07 Thread Lyn Haddock

Thanks to some helpful hints from several in the group, I found the solution to 
getting Linux (Mint 17 Qiana, Mate Edition) to work with the KXUSB adapter. 
Here is what was required…

- Click the MENU button and select the CONTROL CENTER

- Locate USERS AND GROUPS in the SYSTEM grouping

- Select your USER on the Users Settings screen if you have more than one user 
set up

- Select ADVANCED SETTINGS and Authenticate

- Select the USER PRIViLEGES tab

- Enable USE MODEMS by clicking the box

- OK and Close all the open screens and REBOOT or log out and back in

Your Elecraft Utility of choice should now find the proper port (/dev/ttyusb0 
in my case) and be able to to connect via the KXUSB.

I took a quick look at Ubuntu 14.04 and didn’t find GUI options like Mint has 
to work with user groups. I suspect I would need to edit a file, perhaps having 
to do with “dialout” privileges. This is beyond my attention span since Mint is 
now working fine.

By the way, the Linux Elecraft Utilities (at least the ones I tried) are 32 bit 
applications. I installed 64 bit Mint 17 and could not get the Utilities to 
open at all until I installed the 32 bit libraries for Mint. I used the 
commands suggested by David - W4DES, shown at the bottom of this link…

http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/linux-K3-utility-td7589395.html 


This installation went fine and then the Utilities would open. There is a 32 
bit version of Mint 17 available for download, and I suspect it would work as 
installed.

Thanks again for the helpful replies.

73 and Have Fun!

Lyn - KC8I

PS - After finding this USER PROCESSES screen, I probably can figure out why 
some other things don't work for me on Linux. There are numerous other boxes 
you can check to enable “stuff” that might be necessary.


> I’m trying to connect my KX3/PX3 rig to a Linux computer to use the Utility 
> programs. I’m have tried to connect to two different computers running both 
> Mint 17 and Ubuntu 14.04 with no luck so far.
> 
> From what I can tell, these Linux distros should both natively support FTDI 
> chips for VCP connections. The FTDI site confirms this and only provides 
> instructions for replacing the VCP driver with a D2XX driver.
> 
> I can see the FTDI device using “lsusb” when plug the KXUSB in. However, the 
> KXUSB apparently can’t connect to /dev/ttyusb0 to let me use the KX3 or PX3 
> Utilities.
> 
> When i unplug the KXUSB from the USB port on either Linux box and plug it 
> into my Mac, all is well. It even works when I reboot the same PC to WIN7 
> instead of Ubuntu. What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks,
> Lyn - KC8I
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux - Success with Mint

2014-11-07 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)


I have got it working in Ubuntu 12.04 64bit.
Indeed you need to add yourself to the dialout group and have the 32bit 
libraries.


It is an item that should be the system settings window under user 
accounts but as I wrote before in the reflector:


I had the same issue in Ubuntu Linux. The reason was that by default
only root has access to /dev/ttyUSB0.
If you add yourself to the group "dialout" like this:

In a terminal do at the ~$ prompt:

sudo usermod -a -G dialout 

where  should be your name as shown on the prompt before the $...

type your password...

log out then log in again and start the utility. By then it should work
ok. At least to me it did:-)

Canonical seems not to like people to mess around with group policies
therefore leaves out a gui application to set them.

-As far as I know group policy settings are back again in Ubuntu 14.04 
but as that has other less likable bugs I still use 12.04 and 
Gnome-session-fallback (yes: I don't like Unity)


73,
Peter - PA0PJE

Op 2014-11-07 19:15 schreef Lyn Haddock:

Thanks to some helpful hints from several in the group, I found the solution to 
getting Linux (Mint 17 Qiana, Mate Edition) to work with the KXUSB adapter. 
Here is what was required…

- Click the MENU button and select the CONTROL CENTER

- Locate USERS AND GROUPS in the SYSTEM grouping

- Select your USER on the Users Settings screen if you have more than one user 
set up

- Select ADVANCED SETTINGS and Authenticate

- Select the USER PRIViLEGES tab

- Enable USE MODEMS by clicking the box

- OK and Close all the open screens and REBOOT or log out and back in

Your Elecraft Utility of choice should now find the proper port (/dev/ttyusb0 
in my case) and be able to to connect via the KXUSB.


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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux - Success with Mint

2014-11-07 Thread Nate Bargmann

Good to hear, Lyn.

73, Nate N0NB

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