Re: [Elecraft] My last words on Skinny Receive audio

2014-04-28 Thread David Cole
As an aside, I will only be answering this and other ESSB questions via
direct email from now on...
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On Mon, 2014-04-28 at 07:25 -0700, David Cole wrote:
> Larry,
> 
> I have been totally polite to you, and everyone else in this
> interchange.  I have politely asked you questions, (without adding
> prejudice to the question), and I have not gotten a single answer from
> you.  I did get an answer from W0MU, and for that I am grateful, he and
> I disagree on the reasons, but that is fine, each of us gets our own
> thoughts.   
> 
> To have you basically start calling people that don't support your
> position names, by classing those that support you as gentlemen, (and
> ignoring those who disagree with you, which is called "guilt by
> association"), is uncalled for and is in essence-- cheating, in an
> intelligent discussion.   
> 
> I believe you really should review your discussion skills here.
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] My last words on Skinny Receive audio

2014-04-28 Thread David Cole
Larry,

I have been totally polite to you, and everyone else in this
interchange.  I have politely asked you questions, (without adding
prejudice to the question), and I have not gotten a single answer from
you.  I did get an answer from W0MU, and for that I am grateful, he and
I disagree on the reasons, but that is fine, each of us gets our own
thoughts.   

To have you basically start calling people that don't support your
position names, by classing those that support you as gentlemen, (and
ignoring those who disagree with you, which is called "guilt by
association"), is uncalled for and is in essence-- cheating, in an
intelligent discussion.   

I believe you really should review your discussion skills here.

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Thanks and 73's,
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for MM-SSTV see:
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On Mon, 2014-04-28 at 11:09 +, Larry Wassmann wrote:
> There were 4 gentlemen who looked up my email address and sent me advice and 
> helpful hints but commented that what I am looking for is not currently 
> possible on the K3. They also advised me to disregard the blowhards who like 
> to hang out on the reflector and apologized for them. 


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[Elecraft] My last words on Skinny Receive audio

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Wassmann
I was the one who asked what I thought was a simple and logical question about 
the receive audio bandpass of the K3. Now after having page after page of 
lecturing me and others about the evils of ESSB, I am sorry for asking and 
disappointed in many of your responses to my question. 


Elecraft offers an ESSB filter. In the manual it tells you how to set the rig 
up for ESSB. Both the receive and transmit EQs have frequencies all along the 
4K range. So I was kind of shocked to hear that in many of your minds, ESSB is 
a dirty word and that you would go out of your way to attack someone who asks a 
question about the ESSB capabilities like me.  


There were 4 gentlemen who looked up my email address and sent me advice and 
helpful hints but commented that what I am looking for is not currently 
possible on the K3. They also advised me to disregard the blowhards who like to 
hang out on the reflector and apologized for them. 


I am disappointed that the K3 apparently can not match the transmit band pass 
in the receiver without attenuation. The newer Yaesu rigs can. All of the Flex 
rigs can. The Anon can. The new (kit like) SDR rigs can, and even the new 
Kenwood 990 can faithfully match the receive and transmit band pass. It is 
embarrassing to me to have them receive my signal, record it and play it back 
accurately while I can not do the same for them on my K3. 


When I ordered the K3 I spoke to one of the technicians there at Elecraft and 
was assured after describing what I wanted to do with the K3 that it could meet 
and in fact exceed my audio needs. Apparently he miss understood or miss quoted 
the capabilities of the K3 unintentionally. 


I will be posting my evaluation of the K3 audio in the appropriate places and 
advise those who are interested in quality audio to look someplace else. The 
apparent advertised ESSB features are really not there and to not waste your 
money and time with the rig if that is your interest. 


Go ahead bash me and ESSB some more. 


73 OZ






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