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The cards I listed yesterday have both mic and line level inputs (separate jacks) one or the other will be a reasonable match for the headphone output. As far as driving the mic input of the KX3 with line (speaker) output, simply put a 10:1 (20 dB) attenuator in the cable to the mic input. Typically one would connect a 1 uF cap to the tip of the speaker jack, a 10K resistor from the cap to another 1 uF cap to the mic input of the KX3 and a 1K resistor from the junction of the 10K resistor/output 1uF cap to the shield/return (from sleeve of the speaker jack to mic return of the K3). Note: the 1uF caps are simply there to block DC on the sound card output (may not be necessary) and block the bias on the KX3 mic line (if the KX3 is configured for use with an electret mic). If the drive is still excessive, change the 1K resistor to 470 Ohms (22:1 or -26 dB). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-06-10 12:02 PM, Mark Tannert wrote: It would seem that all these line level input/output sound cards would have some difficulty working with the KX3, which uses mic level input and headphone level output. Kindly correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers, Mark/WN8U __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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It would seem that all these line level input/output sound cards would have some difficulty working with the KX3, which uses mic level input and headphone level output. Kindly correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers, Mark/WN8U __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I thank everyone who responded. I will experiment with all of the ideas submitted. 73, Michael N3IRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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If you're talking about the Winbook TW700, it does indeed have a mic input. The audio jack is a 4-pin TRRS (tip-ring-ring-sleeve) with the same pinout as an iPad. I built a home brew cable set and interface and successfully made contacts using the Winbook, FLDIGI, and my K2. de AJ4TF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603881.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Just make sure you get one that can handle line level inputs, or you'll have to build an attenuator 73, Ross N4RP On 6/9/2015 5:45 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: In addition to the sound cards recommended in the K9YC document, these have been reported to be solid performing cards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128010 ($36) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($18) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($40) That list is not exhaustive - it does not include many of the <$100 cards being recommended for SDR use or many of the <$10 "dongles" that work exceedingly well for simple audio I/O purposes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-06-09 5:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research. David A., KC0XT On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with Signalink on-line if one bothers to look. In general they relate to improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc. In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF) on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple audio signals) on transmit. You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode some signals. However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: Joe, You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that. I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility. 73, Barry K3NDM On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: OP said computer did not have an audio input. He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior "amateur" product. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to davidahren...@me.com David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@n4rp.com -- FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum tra
Re: [Elecraft] Need local help
In addition to the sound cards recommended in the K9YC document, these have been reported to be solid performing cards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829128010 ($36) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($18) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829126101 ($40) That list is not exhaustive - it does not include many of the <$100 cards being recommended for SDR use or many of the <$10 "dongles" that work exceedingly well for simple audio I/O purposes. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-06-09 5:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research. David A., KC0XT On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with Signalink on-line if one bothers to look. In general they relate to improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc. In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF) on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple audio signals) on transmit. You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode some signals. However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: Joe, You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that. I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility. 73, Barry K3NDM On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: OP said computer did not have an audio input. He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior "amateur" product. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to davidahren...@me.com David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Well, there is the iMic for one. $30. A good semi-pro audio interface would be priced at at least $150. The Focusrite Scarlett 2i2, would be a good example. Then, if you want to "go-pro"... there are interfaces like the Universal Audio Apollo Twin DUO, for $900.. (which is cheap, compared to the RME Fireface 802 USB / Firewire Audio Interface, at $1700. There are more expensive interfaces and better interfaces, but most of them do not use USB for connecting to the computer. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 On Jun 9, 2015, at 5:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research. David A., KC0XT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I got the Numark STEREO iO Analog-To-Digital DJ Interface instead of the Signal Link… Half the price and works well. 73 Gil, W1RG From: Walter Underwood Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 5:20 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Please read this well-researched document. It has already been recommended in this string. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: > Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would > like to research. > > David A., KC0XT > >> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >> >>> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these >>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do >>> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. >> >> There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with >> Signalink on-line if one bothers to look. In general they relate to >> improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the >> V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack >> of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that >> the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order >> for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc. >> >> In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to >> noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF) >> on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple >> audio signals) on transmit. >> >> You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode >> some signals. However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of >> the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform >> much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>> Joe, >>>You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink >>> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not >>> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that. >>> >>>I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these >>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital >>> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never >>> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here >>> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit >>> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface >>> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is >>> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility. >>> >>> 73, >>> Barry >>> K3NDM >>> >>> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > OP said computer did not have an audio input. He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior "amateur" product. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to li...@subich.com >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to davidahren...@me.com > > > > > David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message del
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Please read this well-researched document. It has already been recommended in this string. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:16 PM, David Ahrendts wrote: > Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would > like to research. > > David A., KC0XT > >> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >> >>> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these >>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do >>> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. >> >> There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with >> Signalink on-line if one bothers to look. In general they relate to >> improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the >> V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack >> of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that >> the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order >> for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc. >> >> In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to >> noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF) >> on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple >> audio signals) on transmit. >> >> You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode >> some signals. However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of >> the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform >> much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >>> Joe, >>>You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink >>> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not >>> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that. >>> >>>I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these >>> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital >>> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never >>> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here >>> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit >>> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface >>> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is >>> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility. >>> >>> 73, >>> Barry >>> K3NDM >>> >>> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > OP said computer did not have an audio input. He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior "amateur" product. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to li...@subich.com >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to davidahren...@me.com > > > > > David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth
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Gentlemen, suggest some alternatives to the SignalLink USB for digital. Would like to research. David A., KC0XT > On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > >> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these >> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do >> digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. > > There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with > Signalink on-line if one bothers to look. In general they relate to > improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the > V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack > of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that > the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order > for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc. > > In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to > noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF) > on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple > audio signals) on transmit. > > You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode > some signals. However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of > the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform > much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: >> Joe, >> You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink >> USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not >> enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that. >> >> I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these >> discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital >> signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never >> use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here >> in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit >> digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface >> with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is >> just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility. >> >> 73, >> Barry >> K3NDM >> >> On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >>> >>> On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: OP said computer did not have an audio input. >>> >>> He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable >>> quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product >>> of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound >>> card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior >>> "amateur" product. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> ... Joe, W4TV >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net >>> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to li...@subich.com >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to davidahren...@me.com David Ahrendts davidahren...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. There are a significant number of reports concerning the issues with Signalink on-line if one bothers to look. In general they relate to improper filtering of the USB +5V power, lack of a regulator for the V/2 reference to the sound codec (analog to digital converter), lack of proper bypassing of noise from the various chips, requirement that the digital to analog converter be run at too high a level in order for the "VOX" to trigger reliably, etc. In general, this means Signalink loses 15 dB or more of signal to noise ratio (which is a big deal with modes like JT65 and JT9 on HF) on the receive side and is much more "dirty" (often with multiple audio signals) on transmit. You're correct that it does not take much of a sound card to decode some signals. However, the Signalink "sound card" contains most of the same components as the generic USB sound products that perform much better - yet Signalink costs two to three times as much. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-06-09 3:59 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: Joe, You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that. I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility. 73, Barry K3NDM On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: OP said computer did not have an audio input. He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior "amateur" product. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I have used three interfaces for digital. Note that my MacBook Pro can't listen and talk over its audio connector at the same time. The first interface I used was a SignaLink. It was easy to set up. It works with the stock drivers on both MacOS and Linux. Making cables for it was easy. It has an internal VOX so you can key the transmitter without turning the radio's VOX on. (Both the K3 and the KX3 have only one VOX setting for both voice modes and digital. I use push-to-talk for voice modes so random shack noise doesn't trigger the transmitter. Remembering to switch it on and off is a PITA since I sometimes change modes several times in an evening.) I have a Tascam US-122 mkII interface. It does the best job. With the SignaLink I had to compromise between enough sensitivity for weak PSK stations and enough head room for the strong ones. I was always riding the RF volume control. The Tascam has enough dynamic range. However, it requires a special driver, so I can't use it on my Linux box. Works fine with MacOS and will be the interface I use for field day this year. I have a $3-$5 interface that I added to an Amazon order on impulse. I have never gotten it to work well with the KX3. I think I need to build an attenuator. It works with the stock drivers on MacOS and Linux. On 6/9/15 at 8:47 AM, wun...@wunderwood.org (Walter Underwood) wrote: Any old $20 USB audio dongle will probably do just as well as the Tigertronics. --- Bill Frantz| Privacy is dead, get over| Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | it. | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | - Scott McNealy | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Yes, the SignaLink is 'adequate', but if you care to reduce the received noise floor and copy weaker digital signals, you will want something better. Many of the software digital mode applications provide a means to control transmit by means of a control command to the transceiver. That eliminates the need for a hardwired PTT connection. VOX is not difficult to set up for data modes because the audio stream is a steady level and not contaminated with room noise like you would find with using a microphone for voice modes. The SignaLink uses 'sort of' a simple VOX circuit to produce its PTT output, so why not just use the transceiver VOX instead, it is there in the KX3. While many use the SignaLink for digital modes, all I can say is that "it works". A USB external soundcard works much better and for only about half the cost. Of course, you will be using only the left channel of the soundcard, but that soundcard can be used for other purposes. The SignaLink has only one channel, and cannot be used as a normal soundcard with stereo channels. On 6/9/2015 3:43 PM, Barry LaZar wrote: Jim, The SignaLink sound card is quite adequate for running digital modes on HF, and it appears to be better than the one in my Toshiba Satellite laptop. However, I do use a professional level USB card for my panadapter which is far more demanding. And, PTT is less clunky if you're not knowledgeable enough to set VOX properly. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Joe, You bring an interesting point of view. I've been using a SignaLink USB for at least 3-4 years. I haven't had an issue with it except not enough time to play. And, I can't blame the manufacturer for that. I think there is one point that is overlooked in a lot of these discussions. It really doesn't take much of a sound card to do digital signal processing on 3 KHz or less audio streram. However, I would never use a card in my laptop or my I/F for some of the heavier lifting here in my shack where I need 96KHz sample rates or better with 24 bit digitizing. But for just hook it up, set the levels and go, an interface with a built in sound card is not a bad way to go. In many cases, it is just easier to do and it allows for more flexibility. 73, Barry K3NDM On 6/9/2015 3:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: OP said computer did not have an audio input. He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior "amateur" product. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Jim, The SignaLink sound card is quite adequate for running digital modes on HF, and it appears to be better than the one in my Toshiba Satellite laptop. However, I do use a professional level USB card for my panadapter which is far more demanding. And, PTT is less clunky if you're not knowledgeable enough to set VOX properly. There are some secondary, subtle, issues with running using the built in software for RTTY, CW, and PSK on the KX3. Those are you can't run the other modes should you desire and you can't see multiple streams of data simultaneously which is very useful if you looking for picking up awards. Using an external sound card frees up your computer sound card for other things while you demod/decode digital signals. For the cost of a SignaLink USB, or equivalent for about $100, you open up a layer or two of additional flexibility. My interface is permanently in my KX3 audio line with my amplified speakers coming off the Aux. on the back of the I/F. I can switch modes by just invoking data a mode on the KX3 and replacing my mic with the cable from my interface. I interpret what you are saying as being heavily biased toward operating on the digital modes. That's OK, but I use CW and phone as much if not more. So, I designed my station for ease of mode switching and maximum performance. Vy 73, Barry K3NDM On 6/9/2015 12:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Tue,6/9/2015 9:23 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: The SignaLink not only has a built in sound card, but it also controls the radio's PTT function. Yes, you can use VOX, but this plays a little less clunky. There is nothing "clunky" about using VOX for PTT. I've made many thousands of digital contacts, and I've used nothing but VOX. The SignaLink is NOT a good sound card. See the link posted by others to my website for GOOD sound cards. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 2015-06-09 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: OP said computer did not have an audio input. He's still better off with an external USB sound card of reasonable quality and a pair of audio cables than using the Tigertronix product of dubious quality and well documented poor design. A simple USB sound card of reasonable quality will cost 1/3 to 1/2 as much as the inferior "amateur" product. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On Tue,6/9/2015 9:23 AM, Barry LaZar wrote: The SignaLink not only has a built in sound card, but it also controls the radio's PTT function. Yes, you can use VOX, but this plays a little less clunky. There is nothing "clunky" about using VOX for PTT. I've made many thousands of digital contacts, and I've used nothing but VOX. The SignaLink is NOT a good sound card. See the link posted by others to my website for GOOD sound cards. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Walter, The SignaLink not only has a built in sound card, but it also controls the radio's PTT function. Yes, you can use VOX, but this plays a little less clunky. You can also use the KX3's built in abilities, but using an external interface with multimode software, allows for greater flexibility. 73, Barry K3NDM On 6/9/2015 10:40 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you can do a lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most uses, the audio built into the computer is just fine. More detail here: http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT wrote: If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface. I sue and recommend this a signalink http://www.tigertronics.com/ The have an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603841.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k3...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf jim ab3cv On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > OP said computer did not have an audio input. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603850.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to j...@jtmiller.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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OP said computer did not have an audio input. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603850.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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ARGH! I missed that, too. Certainly, a simple USB audio dongle can be found on the big retail site, or the big auction site. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 On Jun 9, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: Oops, I missed that this computer doesn’t have a mic input (original post was not quoted). Any old $20 USB audio dongle will probably do just as well as the Tigertronics. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I'd have to agree. The Tigertronics unit is a simple and easy way for older rigs to be able to operate in digital modes. But the Elecraft K3 and KX3 have a state-of-the-art DSP architecture, and all you need to do is connect the proper cables between the rig and your computer. Elecraft sells cables for the job. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 On Jun 9, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you can do a lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most uses, the audio built into the computer is just fine. More detail here: http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Oops, I missed that this computer doesn’t have a mic input (original post was not quoted). Any old $20 USB audio dongle will probably do just as well as the Tigertronics. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jun 9, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you can do a > lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most uses, the audio > built into the computer is just fine. > > More detail here: > > http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf > > wunder > K6WRU > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > >> If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface. I >> sue and recommend this a signalink http://www.tigertronics.com/ The have >> an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless. >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603841.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT wrote: If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface. > I > use and recommend this a signalink http://www.tigertronics.com/ The > have > an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless. > You do not need an interface. All you need is audio cables between your computer soundcard and rig. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf Interfaces are sometimes plug and play and an easy solution. Other times they are an exasperating pain to get working. In any case I suggest trying the no-cost approach first. Audio cables are all I've ever used. Good for over 50,000 digital contacts since 2006. 73, Hank, W6SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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You do not need an interface. If you do want outboard USB audio, you can do a lot better than Tigertronics for less money. But for most uses, the audio built into the computer is just fine. More detail here: http://audiosystemsgroup.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Bob N3MNT wrote: > If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface. I > sue and recommend this a signalink http://www.tigertronics.com/ The have > an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless. > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603841.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Darn old brain make that use not sue. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603842.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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If you want to use a program on the computer you need to add an interface. I sue and recommend this a signalink http://www.tigertronics.com/ The have an interface cable for the KX3 that makes the operation seamless. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Need-local-help-tp7603839p7603841.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Maybe via Skype anyone? Frank KG9H > On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Michael Rudolph wrote: > > David - I knew that the possibility existed, but believe that without a > computer the incoming message simply scrolls and cannot be saved. Anyway, I > do not know how to set that up either. I looked in the User's Guide and the > Cady book, and did not find step-by-step instructions that I could follow. > So here are my follow-up questions: > > 1. Can you or someone provide me with the exact menu settings and procedure > for decoding CW and PSK31 entirely from the KX3? > > 2. I believe I still need local help where I can actually see someone > operating in PSK31 using a computer and Ham Radio Deluxe, so is there anyone > within 100 miles of Washington DC that can invite me? > > 73, > Michael N3IRT > > -Original Message- > From: David Pratt [mailto:da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:08 AM > To: Michael Rudolph; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need local help > > Michael - You don't need a computer to send and decode PSK31 and CW. > Provision for decoding and sending PSK31 and CW are already built into the > KX3 firmware. All you need to do is to plug a paddle into your KX3 and set > up the menu accordingly and you're away. > > 73 de David G4DMP > > On 09/06/2015 04:59, Michael Rudolph wrote: >> I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive to anyone's > location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW. >> >> I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible. It > has a USB port but no mic input. I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the > tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via > the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe. > > -- > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK| > | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kg9hfr...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Need local help
David - I knew that the possibility existed, but believe that without a computer the incoming message simply scrolls and cannot be saved. Anyway, I do not know how to set that up either. I looked in the User's Guide and the Cady book, and did not find step-by-step instructions that I could follow. So here are my follow-up questions: 1. Can you or someone provide me with the exact menu settings and procedure for decoding CW and PSK31 entirely from the KX3? 2. I believe I still need local help where I can actually see someone operating in PSK31 using a computer and Ham Radio Deluxe, so is there anyone within 100 miles of Washington DC that can invite me? 73, Michael N3IRT -Original Message- From: David Pratt [mailto:da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:08 AM To: Michael Rudolph; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need local help Michael - You don't need a computer to send and decode PSK31 and CW. Provision for decoding and sending PSK31 and CW are already built into the KX3 firmware. All you need to do is to plug a paddle into your KX3 and set up the menu accordingly and you're away. 73 de David G4DMP On 09/06/2015 04:59, Michael Rudolph wrote: > I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive to anyone's location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW. > > I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible. It has a USB port but no mic input. I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK| | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Need local help
Michael - You don't need a computer to send and decode PSK31 and CW. Provision for decoding and sending PSK31 and CW are already built into the KX3 firmware. All you need to do is to plug a paddle into your KX3 and set up the menu accordingly and you're away. 73 de David G4DMP On 09/06/2015 04:59, Michael Rudolph wrote: I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive to anyone's location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW. I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible. It has a USB port but no mic input. I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe. -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK| | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Need local help
I live in the Washington DC area and am willing to drive to anyone's location who can demonstrate how to hook up and use my KX3 for psk31 and CW. I would like to use my WINBOOK tablet instead of a laptop if possible. It has a USB port but no mic input. I succeeded in connecting the KX3 to the tablet but that is as far as I have gotten except that I can send code via the utility program and decode CW (albeit very badly) via Ham Radio Deluxe. Michael Michael Rudolph N3IRT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
