Re: [Elecraft] Options for contest logging software under Linux

2022-06-13 Thread Kevin Anderson via Elecraft
Kevin, KD5ONS,

Depending on your Linux  background, and your goals with contesting, for your 
Option #3, I would recommend TRLog for Linux,
https://www.kkn.net/trlinux/

This is a port by Kevin Schmidt, W9CF, that migrates Tree's (K6TR) TR-Log using 
its native Pascal source code (by permission of Tree, with necessary 
modifications) to Linux. So this is the real program, and not running an 
emulation of any sort. 

There is a high learning curve to getting proficient in using TRLog (as there 
was in the original DOS version) in configuring things for contests to have 
shortcuts and function keys work the way you might like them, as it relies 
heavily on the keyboard and not the mouse. But if you are at all used any of 
the old DOS-based contest logging programs (as I used NA, plus some CT, before 
this with a parallel port keying interface), if will seem familiar. What I 
especially like for TRLog for Linux, as I contest primarily with CW, is that it 
gave me a way to migrate my contesting to Linux (my preferred OS at home) using 
K1EL's WinKeyer (I have the WKMini) on laptops with only USB ports for 
interfacing.  There is some Linux configuration needed, so still not for the 
novice Linux user, but W9CF's instructions help with most of it.

Cheers/73,

Kevin Anderson, K9IUA

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Re: [Elecraft] Options for contest logging software under Linux

2022-06-12 Thread Jack Brindle via Elecraft
Kevin;

I’m curious, why do you wish to run N1MM Logger? It is a very good contest 
logger, but for general purpose logging there are better choices.
As for running it under virtualization, I ran it using Virtual Box (on the Mac) 
until I had a really good reason to use VMware Fusion - that was when
I joined the Fusion development team. I’m no longer with VMware, and rarely use 
N1MM (except for Field Day while I was in CA). But, when
I need it, it still runs great in Fusion.

So, if you need it, go ahead and try it with Virtual Box. I think you will be 
happy with it. If you are looking for a general-purpose logger, then search for 
one of the several that are available for linux.

73,
Jack, W6FB


> On Jun 12, 2022, at 3:31 PM, kevin  wrote:
> 
> I run versions of Linux on five of my computers.  I would like to implement 
> N1MM's logging software on one of them.  It appears I have three options:
> 
> 1) Install N1MM directly and use wine to run it.
> 
> 2) Install N1MM in a Windows 7 virtual machine under Virtual Box.
> 
> 3) Use another logging application specific to Linux.
> 
> 
> For option 1 I found this link describing the installation and support 
> methods -
> 
> https://www.nf8m.com/nf8m/n1mm-on-linux/
> 
> Does anyone have any other links for this option?
> 
> 
> Option 2.  Has anyone tried using N1MM's app using Virtual Box? I am more 
> comfortable with it than I am with using winetricks.  I have modified com 
> port status under Virtual Box for some of the applications I write.  It is 
> involved but I have already done the homework.
> 
> 
> Option 3 - does anyone know of good logging applications for Linux?
> 
> 
> Or the option I have not listed: logging on paper which is my normal method.
> 
> Any information, opinions, or options I have not covered?
> 
>73,   Kevin.  KD5ONS
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Options for contest logging software under Linux

2022-06-12 Thread Brian Hunt
Kevin,
For option 3 you might take a look at the groups.io linuxhams. A quick search 
there unearthed xlog. Don’t know anything about it but the write up says 
general and contest logging. 

Dual booting the computer you want to use for contesting could be option 4. 😀

73,
Brian, K0DTJ


> On Jun 12, 2022, at 13:32, kevin  wrote:
> 
> I run versions of Linux on five of my computers.  I would like to implement 
> N1MM's logging software on one of them.  It appears I have three options:
> 
> 1) Install N1MM directly and use wine to run it.
> 
> 2) Install N1MM in a Windows 7 virtual machine under Virtual Box.
> 
> 3) Use another logging application specific to Linux.
> 
> 
> For option 1 I found this link describing the installation and support 
> methods -
> 
> https://www.nf8m.com/nf8m/n1mm-on-linux/
> 
> Does anyone have any other links for this option?
> 
> 
> Option 2.  Has anyone tried using N1MM's app using Virtual Box? I am more 
> comfortable with it than I am with using winetricks.  I have modified com 
> port status under Virtual Box for some of the applications I write.  It is 
> involved but I have already done the homework.
> 
> 
> Option 3 - does anyone know of good logging applications for Linux?
> 
> 
> Or the option I have not listed: logging on paper which is my normal method.
> 
> Any information, opinions, or options I have not covered?
> 
>73,   Kevin.  KD5ONS
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Options for contest logging software under Linux

2022-06-12 Thread David Herring
Kevin,

Windows VM on Virtual Box would be a slam dunk, but that does take up a lot of 
your computer’s resources.  But, once it’s installed and windows is running, 
N1MM and most all other windows apps will run FB and not know the difference. 

If you are leaning toward a wine solution, you may consider using Crossover 
rather than straight up wine.  Crossover is a commercial-off-the-shelf wine 
package and it has a cost, but I think it has a free trial period so you can 
test to see if works for you. Because it is more of a commercial endeavor so 
many things are better supported.  N1MM is on the listed of supported apps in 
Crossover, though full disclosure I have not actually tried it.  I do run a 
number of other windows apps in it just fine.  codeweavers.com

Just an idea…


73,
Dave - N5DCH




> On Jun 12, 2022, at 2:31 PM, kevin  wrote:
> 
> I run versions of Linux on five of my computers.  I would like to implement 
> N1MM's logging software on one of them.  It appears I have three options:
> 
> 1) Install N1MM directly and use wine to run it.
> 
> 2) Install N1MM in a Windows 7 virtual machine under Virtual Box.
> 
> 3) Use another logging application specific to Linux.
> 
> 
> For option 1 I found this link describing the installation and support 
> methods -
> 
> https://www.nf8m.com/nf8m/n1mm-on-linux/
> 
> Does anyone have any other links for this option?
> 
> 
> Option 2.  Has anyone tried using N1MM's app using Virtual Box? I am more 
> comfortable with it than I am with using winetricks.  I have modified com 
> port status under Virtual Box for some of the applications I write.  It is 
> involved but I have already done the homework.
> 
> 
> Option 3 - does anyone know of good logging applications for Linux?
> 
> 
> Or the option I have not listed: logging on paper which is my normal method.
> 
> Any information, opinions, or options I have not covered?
> 
>73,   Kevin.  KD5ONS
> 
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[Elecraft] Options for contest logging software under Linux

2022-06-12 Thread kevin
I run versions of Linux on five of my computers.  I would like to 
implement N1MM's logging software on one of them.  It appears I have 
three options:


1) Install N1MM directly and use wine to run it.

2) Install N1MM in a Windows 7 virtual machine under Virtual Box.

3) Use another logging application specific to Linux.


For option 1 I found this link describing the installation and support 
methods -


https://www.nf8m.com/nf8m/n1mm-on-linux/

Does anyone have any other links for this option?


Option 2.  Has anyone tried using N1MM's app using Virtual Box? I am 
more comfortable with it than I am with using winetricks.  I have 
modified com port status under Virtual Box for some of the applications 
I write.  It is involved but I have already done the homework.



Option 3 - does anyone know of good logging applications for Linux?


Or the option I have not listed: logging on paper which is my normal 
method.


Any information, opinions, or options I have not covered?

   73,   Kevin.  KD5ONS


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