Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Hisashi,

The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It
just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you
may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3
manual on page 33.

73,
Mike K2MK


Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote
 I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot
 of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
 and it wasn't dropping characters at all.
 
 Is there something I have set up incorrectly?
 
 Thanks.
 Hisashi T Fujinaka 





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hello Hisashi, 

The P3/SVGA terminal mode which allows you to display decoded CW/RTTY/PSK31
text on an external monitor uses the decoder built in to the K3.   If you
are missing characters on the SVGA display, first make sure that the K3 is
correctly configured to decode the correct mode.  Another common problem is
when the K3 utility is connected along with the P3/SVGA.  You cannot have
both operating at the same time.   

73, 

Paul





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

Once again, I wonder if I'm being clear. THE TEXT ON THE P3 SVGA IS NOT
THE SAME AS ON THE K3. I'm not sure what the issue is.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote:


Hi Hisashi,

The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It
just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you
may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3
manual on page 33.

73,
Mike K2MK


Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote

I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot
of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
and it wasn't dropping characters at all.

Is there something I have set up incorrectly?

Thanks.
Hisashi T Fujinaka






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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Fjeld

Paul,

I think Hisashi is describing while using RTTY what I have been talking 
about while using CW with a keyboard when I said that some characters (not 
elements of the characters) are being lost during transmission.  They show 
on the monitor, but not on the K3 and are not being sent. (I'm saying this 
for Hisashi's benefit so that we are in sync.)


Hisashi, at this point, I'm wondering if you are seeing this while 
transmitting as I do? or do you see it during receive?  If during receive, 
that would be a new problem.


Dick, n0ce

-Original Message- 
From: Hisashi T Fujinaka

Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot
of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
and it wasn't dropping characters at all.

Is there something I have set up incorrectly?

Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

Sorry, I guess my frustration is with the limited documentation on the
P3 SVGA. Twice I thought it was defective but it wasn't.

So far I've found that the SVGA bias needs to be turned way down from
the default of 9.9 to 1.2-1.5, and that I'm losing simple serial data
from the K3 to the P3 SVGA on receive. I think this is a serial line
problem and Gary from Elecraft suggests turning down the rate from
38400.

Also, the USB keyboard I have (a Cooler Master I just got) doesn't
appear to work and I'm sure it's another problem on my side. Everything
else has been.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote:


Paul, and others,
I think Hisashi is describing using RTTY what I have been talking about using 
CW with a keyboard when I said that some
characters (not elements of the characters) are being lost during transmission. 
 They show on the monitor, but not on the P3 and
are not being sent.

At this point, I'm wondering if Hisashi is seeing this while transmitting? or 
does he see it during receive?  If during receive,
that would be a new problem.

Dick, n0ce


 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:46:47 -0700
 From: ht...@twofifty.com
 To: k...@comcast.net
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

 Once again, I wonder if I'm being clear. THE TEXT ON THE P3 SVGA IS NOT
 THE SAME AS ON THE K3. I'm not sure what the issue is.

 On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote:

  Hi Hisashi,
 
  The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It
  just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you
  may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3
  manual on page 33.
 
  73,
  Mike K2MK
 
 
  Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote
  I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot
  of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
  and it wasn't dropping characters at all.
 
  Is there something I have set up incorrectly?
 
  Thanks.
  Hisashi T Fujinaka
 
 
 
 
 
  --
 





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

My problem is during receive. I wonder if there's more problems on the
serial line than I thought. When I have some time I'm going to put a
'scope on the serial lines to see if there's anything odd to see.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote:


Paul,

I think Hisashi is describing while using RTTY what I have been talking about 
while using CW with a keyboard when I said that some characters (not elements 
of the characters) are being lost during transmission.  They show on the 
monitor, but not on the K3 and are not being sent. (I'm saying this for 
Hisashi's benefit so that we are in sync.)


Hisashi, at this point, I'm wondering if you are seeing this while 
transmitting as I do? or do you see it during receive?  If during receive, 
that would be a new problem.


Dick, n0ce

-Original Message- From: Hisashi T Fujinaka
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot
of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
and it wasn't dropping characters at all.

Is there something I have set up incorrectly?

Thanks.




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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Fjeld


Hisashi,

I'd like to know if you experience the dropped characters on receive, or 
during

transmit?  You show it as a RTTY decode question, but is that specific?

Read my  previous post carefully.  I am also describing a similar thing 
during transmit. Paul has been

working on it.  I'd like to see this get fixed.

I'm sure if everyone using a keyboard will report their experience, we can 
establish if it is a hardware problem for a few,
or something common to all.  I bought the SVGA option when I learned of it 
accepting a keyboard. It hasn't been dependable for use.


Dick, n0ce


-Original Message- 
From: Hisashi T Fujinaka

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:44 PM
To: Richard Fjeld
Cc: elecraft posting
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

Sorry, I guess my frustration is with the limited documentation on the
P3 SVGA. Twice I thought it was defective but it wasn't.

So far I've found that the SVGA bias needs to be turned way down from
the default of 9.9 to 1.2-1.5, and that I'm losing simple serial data
from the K3 to the P3 SVGA on receive. I think this is a serial line
problem and Gary from Elecraft suggests turning down the rate from
38400.

Also, the USB keyboard I have (a Cooler Master I just got) doesn't
appear to work and I'm sure it's another problem on my side. Everything
else has been.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote:


Paul, and others,
I think Hisashi is describing using RTTY what I have been talking about 
using CW with a keyboard when I said that some
characters (not elements of the characters) are being lost during 
transmission.  They show on the monitor, but not on the P3 and

are not being sent.

At this point, I'm wondering if Hisashi is seeing this while transmitting? 
or does he see it during receive?  If during receive,

that would be a new problem.

Dick, n0ce


 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:46:47 -0700
 From: ht...@twofifty.com
 To: k...@comcast.net
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

 Once again, I wonder if I'm being clear. THE TEXT ON THE P3 SVGA IS NOT
 THE SAME AS ON THE K3. I'm not sure what the issue is.

 On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote:

  Hi Hisashi,
 
  The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any 
  decoding. It
  just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing 
  characters you
  may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the 
  K3

  manual on page 33.
 
  73,
  Mike K2MK
 
 
  Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote
  I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a 
  lot

  of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
  and it wasn't dropping characters at all.
 
  Is there something I have set up incorrectly?
 
  Thanks.
  Hisashi T Fujinaka
 
 
 
 
 
  --





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Richard Fjeld

Hisashi,

Sorry about these posts getting out of order.  Something in my email client 
changed the 'from' address and my post was rejected. Will fix that.


Okay, your problem is during receive.  That is different from what I have 
been reporting, but perhaps I should look for it during receive,
which I will.  Thank you.  For those who are wondering, the K3 display 
decode will be different from what appears on the monitor.


As for scoping the serial lines,  It would be good if you find something. It 
seems like a sync problem.


Dick, n0ce

-Original Message- 
From: Hisashi T Fujinaka

Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:58 PM
To: Richard Fjeld
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

My problem is during receive. I wonder if there's more problems on the
serial line than I thought. When I have some time I'm going to put a
'scope on the serial lines to see if there's anything odd to see.

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote:


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-27 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dick and Hashshi,

I would suggest removing the serial cable going to the PC as a test.  
That will assure nothing other than the K3 to P3SVGA is flowing over the 
two serial connections.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/27/2013 2:54 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

Hisashi,

Sorry about these posts getting out of order.  Something in my email 
client changed the 'from' address and my post was rejected. Will fix 
that.


Okay, your problem is during receive.  That is different from what I 
have been reporting, but perhaps I should look for it during receive,
which I will.  Thank you.  For those who are wondering, the K3 display 
decode will be different from what appears on the monitor.


As for scoping the serial lines,  It would be good if you find 
something. It seems like a sync problem.


Dick, n0ce

-Original Message- From: Hisashi T Fujinaka
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:58 PM
To: Richard Fjeld
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

My problem is during receive. I wonder if there's more problems on the
serial line than I thought. When I have some time I'm going to put a
'scope on the serial lines to see if there's anything odd to see.



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[Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question

2013-08-26 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot
of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3
and it wasn't dropping characters at all.

Is there something I have set up incorrectly?

Thanks.

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