Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Hi Hisashi, The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3 manual on page 33. 73, Mike K2MK Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3 and it wasn't dropping characters at all. Is there something I have set up incorrectly? Thanks. Hisashi T Fujinaka -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-RTTY-decode-question-tp7578289p7578292.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Hello Hisashi, The P3/SVGA terminal mode which allows you to display decoded CW/RTTY/PSK31 text on an external monitor uses the decoder built in to the K3. If you are missing characters on the SVGA display, first make sure that the K3 is correctly configured to decode the correct mode. Another common problem is when the K3 utility is connected along with the P3/SVGA. You cannot have both operating at the same time. 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-RTTY-decode-question-tp7578289p7578293.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Once again, I wonder if I'm being clear. THE TEXT ON THE P3 SVGA IS NOT THE SAME AS ON THE K3. I'm not sure what the issue is. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Hisashi, The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3 manual on page 33. 73, Mike K2MK Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3 and it wasn't dropping characters at all. Is there something I have set up incorrectly? Thanks. Hisashi T Fujinaka -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-RTTY-decode-question-tp7578289p7578292.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Paul, I think Hisashi is describing while using RTTY what I have been talking about while using CW with a keyboard when I said that some characters (not elements of the characters) are being lost during transmission. They show on the monitor, but not on the K3 and are not being sent. (I'm saying this for Hisashi's benefit so that we are in sync.) Hisashi, at this point, I'm wondering if you are seeing this while transmitting as I do? or do you see it during receive? If during receive, that would be a new problem. Dick, n0ce -Original Message- From: Hisashi T Fujinaka Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3 and it wasn't dropping characters at all. Is there something I have set up incorrectly? Thanks. -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Sorry, I guess my frustration is with the limited documentation on the P3 SVGA. Twice I thought it was defective but it wasn't. So far I've found that the SVGA bias needs to be turned way down from the default of 9.9 to 1.2-1.5, and that I'm losing simple serial data from the K3 to the P3 SVGA on receive. I think this is a serial line problem and Gary from Elecraft suggests turning down the rate from 38400. Also, the USB keyboard I have (a Cooler Master I just got) doesn't appear to work and I'm sure it's another problem on my side. Everything else has been. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote: Paul, and others, I think Hisashi is describing using RTTY what I have been talking about using CW with a keyboard when I said that some characters (not elements of the characters) are being lost during transmission. They show on the monitor, but not on the P3 and are not being sent. At this point, I'm wondering if Hisashi is seeing this while transmitting? or does he see it during receive? If during receive, that would be a new problem. Dick, n0ce Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:46:47 -0700 From: ht...@twofifty.com To: k...@comcast.net CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question Once again, I wonder if I'm being clear. THE TEXT ON THE P3 SVGA IS NOT THE SAME AS ON THE K3. I'm not sure what the issue is. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Hisashi, The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3 manual on page 33. 73, Mike K2MK Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3 and it wasn't dropping characters at all. Is there something I have set up incorrectly? Thanks. Hisashi T Fujinaka -- -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
My problem is during receive. I wonder if there's more problems on the serial line than I thought. When I have some time I'm going to put a 'scope on the serial lines to see if there's anything odd to see. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote: Paul, I think Hisashi is describing while using RTTY what I have been talking about while using CW with a keyboard when I said that some characters (not elements of the characters) are being lost during transmission. They show on the monitor, but not on the K3 and are not being sent. (I'm saying this for Hisashi's benefit so that we are in sync.) Hisashi, at this point, I'm wondering if you are seeing this while transmitting as I do? or do you see it during receive? If during receive, that would be a new problem. Dick, n0ce -Original Message- From: Hisashi T Fujinaka Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3 and it wasn't dropping characters at all. Is there something I have set up incorrectly? Thanks. -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Hisashi, I'd like to know if you experience the dropped characters on receive, or during transmit? You show it as a RTTY decode question, but is that specific? Read my previous post carefully. I am also describing a similar thing during transmit. Paul has been working on it. I'd like to see this get fixed. I'm sure if everyone using a keyboard will report their experience, we can establish if it is a hardware problem for a few, or something common to all. I bought the SVGA option when I learned of it accepting a keyboard. It hasn't been dependable for use. Dick, n0ce -Original Message- From: Hisashi T Fujinaka Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:44 PM To: Richard Fjeld Cc: elecraft posting Subject: RE: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question Sorry, I guess my frustration is with the limited documentation on the P3 SVGA. Twice I thought it was defective but it wasn't. So far I've found that the SVGA bias needs to be turned way down from the default of 9.9 to 1.2-1.5, and that I'm losing simple serial data from the K3 to the P3 SVGA on receive. I think this is a serial line problem and Gary from Elecraft suggests turning down the rate from 38400. Also, the USB keyboard I have (a Cooler Master I just got) doesn't appear to work and I'm sure it's another problem on my side. Everything else has been. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote: Paul, and others, I think Hisashi is describing using RTTY what I have been talking about using CW with a keyboard when I said that some characters (not elements of the characters) are being lost during transmission. They show on the monitor, but not on the P3 and are not being sent. At this point, I'm wondering if Hisashi is seeing this while transmitting? or does he see it during receive? If during receive, that would be a new problem. Dick, n0ce Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 08:46:47 -0700 From: ht...@twofifty.com To: k...@comcast.net CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question Once again, I wonder if I'm being clear. THE TEXT ON THE P3 SVGA IS NOT THE SAME AS ON THE K3. I'm not sure what the issue is. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Hisashi, The P3/SVGA board is acting as a terminal. It does not do any decoding. It just displays the decoding done by the K3. If you're missing characters you may want to adjust the threshold on the K3. See the decode tips in the K3 manual on page 33. 73, Mike K2MK Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3 and it wasn't dropping characters at all. Is there something I have set up incorrectly? Thanks. Hisashi T Fujinaka -- -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Hisashi, Sorry about these posts getting out of order. Something in my email client changed the 'from' address and my post was rejected. Will fix that. Okay, your problem is during receive. That is different from what I have been reporting, but perhaps I should look for it during receive, which I will. Thank you. For those who are wondering, the K3 display decode will be different from what appears on the monitor. As for scoping the serial lines, It would be good if you find something. It seems like a sync problem. Dick, n0ce -Original Message- From: Hisashi T Fujinaka Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:58 PM To: Richard Fjeld Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question My problem is during receive. I wonder if there's more problems on the serial line than I thought. When I have some time I'm going to put a 'scope on the serial lines to see if there's anything odd to see. On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Richard Fjeld wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
Dick and Hashshi, I would suggest removing the serial cable going to the PC as a test. That will assure nothing other than the K3 to P3SVGA is flowing over the two serial connections. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/27/2013 2:54 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: Hisashi, Sorry about these posts getting out of order. Something in my email client changed the 'from' address and my post was rejected. Will fix that. Okay, your problem is during receive. That is different from what I have been reporting, but perhaps I should look for it during receive, which I will. Thank you. For those who are wondering, the K3 display decode will be different from what appears on the monitor. As for scoping the serial lines, It would be good if you find something. It seems like a sync problem. Dick, n0ce -Original Message- From: Hisashi T Fujinaka Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 12:58 PM To: Richard Fjeld Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question My problem is during receive. I wonder if there's more problems on the serial line than I thought. When I have some time I'm going to put a 'scope on the serial lines to see if there's anything odd to see. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 SVGA RTTY decode question
I was copying RTTY on my P3 SVGA and I found that it was dropping a lot of characters. I finally figured out how to decode directly on the K3 and it wasn't dropping characters at all. Is there something I have set up incorrectly? Thanks. -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - ht...@twofifty.com BSEE(6/86) + BSChem(3/95) + BAEnglish(8/95) + MSCS(8/03) + $2.50 = latte __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html