Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Jim Allen]

I believe the technical name for that "putty like substance" in the Navy supply 
system was Monkey Shit.  When I was a Radioman a long, long time ago, that's 
the only name ever used.

73 de W6OGC Jim Allen 

> That was my experience servicing radio installation on board large ships. We
> used whatever the local supplier had on hand.  After all, it's just a simple
> two-circuit connector designed for 28 MHz or so (back then "UHF" was 28 MHz
> and above, but there was really nothing above about 50 MHz before WWII). 
> 
> On connections open to the air (on a ship that meant constant salt spray) we
> carefully sealed the connection with something like "Coax-Seal" -  a putty
> like sealant - followed by several layers of good quality electrical tape.
> Connectors that I had installed that way a few years previously that I
> needed to disconnect for some reason looked a good as the day I had
> installed them, thousands and thousands of miles and years of salt water
> later. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[EricJ]

My experience too. I might have inadvertently bought Amphenol connectors 
60 years ago when the market was much smaller, and Amphenol market share 
was larger, but I never did it on purpose. The only connector failures 
I've had over the years, a comparative few, could be attributed to hasty 
construction on my part.


But sometimes it's satisfying to use new brand name parts after decades 
of robbing connectors from old cables, both of unknown origin, because 
that's what you could afford. Building with a box of little packages 
from Digi-Key is a different experience than building with crap salvaged 
from the family's old TV.


Eric KE6US


On 5/19/2016 7:04 PM, Michael Walker wrote:

I have used Generic PL259's for decades, and while I have had a few bad
ones, they usually failed while I was soldering them.

But for amateur use, they are fine.  Correctly soldered, a connector
shouldn't have an issue holding your body weight.  :)

(Flame retardant suit on)

Mike va3mw


On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Joe W2KJ  wrote:


Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in
Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started.

 73, Joe W2KJ
 I QRP, therefore I am

On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote:


It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's

face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to be,
quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, Herman
boots...)

Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading

before soldering connector to cable.



73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote:

Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to

using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO.

Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional

in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis

The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as

they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily
as they once did!

Glad I have plenty of the old ones!

Ronnie w5sum

Sent from Ronnie's IPhone




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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[riese-k3djc]

Used PL259s on my 432 array,, was up for 15 year and
taped and coated with silicon seal,, looked like new when I 
took them down and the match was 1.1  
good connectors 

Bob K3DJC



> On connections open to the air (on a ship that meant constant salt 
> spray) we
> carefully sealed the connection with something like "Coax-Seal" -  a 
> putty
> like sealant - followed by several layers of good quality electrical 
> tape.
> Connectors that I had installed that way a few years previously that 
> I
> needed to disconnect for some reason looked a good as the day I had
> installed them, thousands and thousands of miles and years of salt 
> water
> later. 
> 
> 73, Ron AC7AC
> 
>

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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

That was my experience servicing radio installation on board large ships. We
used whatever the local supplier had on hand.  After all, it's just a simple
two-circuit connector designed for 28 MHz or so (back then "UHF" was 28 MHz
and above, but there was really nothing above about 50 MHz before WWII). 

On connections open to the air (on a ship that meant constant salt spray) we
carefully sealed the connection with something like "Coax-Seal" -  a putty
like sealant - followed by several layers of good quality electrical tape.
Connectors that I had installed that way a few years previously that I
needed to disconnect for some reason looked a good as the day I had
installed them, thousands and thousands of miles and years of salt water
later. 

73, Ron AC7AC

 
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Michael Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:04 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

I have used Generic PL259's for decades, and while I have had a few bad
ones, they usually failed while I was soldering them.

But for amateur use, they are fine.  Correctly soldered, a connector
shouldn't have an issue holding your body weight.  :)

(Flame retardant suit on)

Mike va3mw


On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Joe W2KJ <w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in 
> Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started.
>
> 73, Joe W2KJ
> I QRP, therefore I am
>
> On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
>
> > It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. 
> > Let's
> face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to 
> be, quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, 
> Herman
> boots...)
> >
> > Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective 
> > threading
> before soldering connector to cable.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Drew
> > AF2Z
> >
> >
> >
> > On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote:
> >> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to
> using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO.
> >> Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a 
> >> professional
> in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis
> >> The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as 
> >> good as
> they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as 
> easily as they once did!
> >> Glad I have plenty of the old ones!
> >>
> >> Ronnie w5sum
> >>
> >> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Michael Walker]

I have used Generic PL259's for decades, and while I have had a few bad
ones, they usually failed while I was soldering them.

But for amateur use, they are fine.  Correctly soldered, a connector
shouldn't have an issue holding your body weight.  :)

(Flame retardant suit on)

Mike va3mw


On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Joe W2KJ  wrote:

> Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in
> Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started.
>
> 73, Joe W2KJ
> I QRP, therefore I am
>
> On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote:
>
> > It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's
> face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to be,
> quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, Herman
> boots...)
> >
> > Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading
> before soldering connector to cable.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Drew
> > AF2Z
> >
> >
> >
> > On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote:
> >> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to
> using them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO.
> >> Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional
> in the communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis
> >> The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as
> they used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily
> as they once did!
> >> Glad I have plenty of the old ones!
> >>
> >> Ronnie w5sum
> >>
> >> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Joe W2KJ]

Believe I read somewhere that Amphenol connectors are being made in 
Mexico...not sure how long ago that got started.

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am

On May 19, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote:

> It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's face 
> it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to be, 
> quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, Herman 
> boots...)
> 
> Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading before 
> soldering connector to cable.
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote:
>> Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to using 
>> them on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO.
>> Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional in the 
>> communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis
>> The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as they 
>> used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily as they 
>> once did!
>> Glad I have plenty of the old ones!
>> 
>> Ronnie w5sum
>> 
>> Sent from Ronnie's IPhone
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Jim Brown]

On Thu,5/19/2016 8:05 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote:

It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading.


I've seen this as well in perhaps 1% or less of the Amphenol 83-1SPs 
that I've bought and installed. The symptom is that the height of the 
thread is shorter than it should be, and you can't screw it onto a 
mating connector. I first saw this 2-3 years ago, and haven't seen it 
since. Perhaps QC caught it.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Drew AF2Z]

It was an 83-1sp I recently bought that had defective threading. Let's 
face it: the name brand products of the past are not what they used to 
be, quality-wise. (Some others I will never buy again: Grundig, Levis, 
Herman boots...)


Mental note to self regarding PL-259's-- check for defective threading 
before soldering connector to cable.




73,
Drew
AF2Z



On 05/19/16 09:32, Ronnie Hull wrote:

Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to using them 
on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO.
Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional in the 
communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis
The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as they 
used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily as they 
once did!
Glad I have plenty of the old ones!

Ronnie w5sum

Sent from Ronnie's IPhone





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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Ronnie Hull]

Type N connectors are great! I just don't see where is any gain to using them 
on HF! They will make NO difference on either end of your QSO. 
Most of the PL259's I see for sale today are crap. I'm a professional in the 
communications industry so I use both styles on a Dailey basis
The 83-1SP's as sold by amphenol today are not anywhere near as good as they 
used to be. The silver coating on them doesn't take solder as easily as they 
once did!
Glad I have plenty of the old ones!

Ronnie w5sum

Sent from Ronnie's IPhone

> On May 19, 2016, at 08:27, "j...@kk9a.com"  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately probably no manufacture is using Amphenol jacks. I have had
> N jack failures in equipment where non-Amphenol connectors lost their
> spring and I previously owned an Acom amp that had very loose fitting
> SO-239's.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> from: Barry w2up
> Thu May 19 08:01:25 EDT 2016
> 
> Do you think whatever you're plugging into uses Amphenol SO-239's?
> 
> Barry W2UP
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[j...@kk9a.com]

Unfortunately probably no manufacture is using Amphenol jacks. I have had
N jack failures in equipment where non-Amphenol connectors lost their
spring and I previously owned an Acom amp that had very loose fitting
SO-239's.

John KK9A

from: Barry w2up
Thu May 19 08:01:25 EDT 2016

Do you think whatever you're plugging into uses Amphenol SO-239's?

Barry W2UP


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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Barry]

Do you think whatever you're plugging into uses Amphenol SO-239's?

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Bert Craig]

I used Amphenol exclusively until they moved their manufacturing from the USA 
to Mexico. Now the 83-1SP is no longer stamped, (Engraved.) its printed. (Ink?) 
Same quality? It could be, but it doesn't appear to be. (Cheaper 
phenolic/Teflon?) I have a sizeable stash of USA-made Amphenol and J (NJ) 
connectors.

This is very much on topic wrt Elecraft products since, with the practice of 
outsourcing local jobs offshore, there is some additional satisfaction that the 
majority of my hard earned money will trickle down to a dinner table in NJ, 
Tennessee, or... Aptos, CA.

Some naysayers will say that there will always be more convenient offshore 
sources and they'd be correct, but you do what you can. If not now, then when? 

Vy 73 de Bert
WA2SI 

Sent from my android device.

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Sent: Thu, 19 May 2016 0:00
Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

Friends,
The only PL-259 connectors any amateur should ever use are the ones from  
Amphenol stamped 83-1SP. 

If you don't believe me, you can easily discuss this issue with Frank, W3LPL. 
If you are at Dayton, he'll be covering various topics during Contest 
University or gabbing with contesters and DXers at the Crowne Plaza. He is a 
very good person to know if you don't know him already. 

73

Todd

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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[w5sum]

I was lucky enough to purchase a master box of 1000 of those 83-1SP's back 
in the late 70's when they were REALLY silver plated.   I have enough for a 
life time


GREAT connectors and with them, no fool would ever need a Type N

W5SUM

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Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 11:00 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

Friends,
The only PL-259 connectors any amateur should ever use are the ones from 
Amphenol stamped 83-1SP.


If you don't believe me, you can easily discuss this issue with Frank, 
W3LPL. If you are at Dayton, he'll be covering various topics during Contest 
University or gabbing with contesters and DXers at the Crowne Plaza. He is a 
very good person to know if you don't know him already.


73

Todd

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[Elecraft] PL-259 connectors

[Todd Ruby]

Friends,
The only PL-259 connectors any amateur should ever use are the ones from  
Amphenol stamped 83-1SP. 

If you don't believe me, you can easily discuss this issue with Frank, W3LPL. 
If you are at Dayton, he'll be covering various topics during Contest 
University or gabbing with contesters and DXers at the Crowne Plaza. He is a 
very good person to know if you don't know him already. 

73

Todd

WB2ZAB
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[Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors

[Gary Gregory]

*Esteemed members of this group.

Can anyone send me a link to a reputable supplier of quality PL-259
connectors as I need to renew my patch chords.

It appears after sending email requests to numerous suppliers in VK they
all seem to sell rubbish..aaah...

In the interest of BW perhaps it is best you reply direct? i don't wish to
start an another off topic lengthy discussion. I just want to order some
decent connectors...:-)

Regards to all.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors

[hawley, charles j jr]

How about these guys. They have been at this forever and sell quality.

http://www.pasternack.com/

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


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Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:48 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors

*Esteemed members of this group.

Can anyone send me a link to a reputable supplier of quality PL-259
connectors as I need to renew my patch chords.

It appears after sending email requests to numerous suppliers in VK they
all seem to sell rubbish..aaah...

In the interest of BW perhaps it is best you reply direct? i don't wish to
start an another off topic lengthy discussion. I just want to order some
decent connectors...:-)

Regards to all.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors

[Bill]

I just checked that website and some of their prices. Way too high for 
my blood!

DX Engineering at www.dxengineering.com ships worldwide. They sell 
silver/Teflon connectors (I use them and they are very good quality).

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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors

[Bert Craig]

My vote. I have never had a bad experience with them.

http://www.davisrf.com/ 

73 de Bert
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- Reply message -
From: Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors
Date: Wed, May 23, 2012 08:48


*Esteemed members of this group.

Can anyone send me a link to a reputable supplier of quality PL-259
connectors as I need to renew my patch chords.

It appears after sending email requests to numerous suppliers in VK they
all seem to sell rubbish..aaah...

In the interest of BW perhaps it is best you reply direct? i don't wish to
start an another off topic lengthy discussion. I just want to order some
decent connectors...:-)

Regards to all.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors

[Ross Primrose N4RP]

W3LPL recommends this one:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-RF/83-1SP/?qs=qhgJLQbFbXlTrY%2furm6%2fdAkd3oX%2fdrWz3R1okn99EvE%3d
 
and no other

73, Ross N4RP

On 5/23/2012 8:48 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
 *Esteemed members of this group.

 Can anyone send me a link to a reputable supplier of quality PL-259
 connectors as I need to renew my patch chords.

 It appears after sending email requests to numerous suppliers in VK they
 all seem to sell rubbish..aaah...

 In the interest of BW perhaps it is best you reply direct? i don't wish to
 start an another off topic lengthy discussion. I just want to order some
 decent connectors...:-)

 Regards to all.

 Gary
 *


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transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.”

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Re: [Elecraft] PL-259 Connectors

[Jim Brown]

On 5/23/2012 7:27 AM, Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:
 W3LPL recommends this one:
 Amphenol-RF/83-1SP

He's not the only one who does -- so do I, and so do most serious RF 
engineers.

73, Jim K9YC
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