Re: [Elecraft] paddles directly to K3 - not working
> ... and the only way to affect the speed of the K3 internal keyer > is the speed control on the front panel of the K3. > I think keyer speed can be set using CAT command. KS (Keyer Speed; GET/SET) > SET/RSP format: KSnnn; where nnn is 008-050 (8-50 WPM). > CW Exuberantly, Hank, W6SX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] paddles directly to K3 - not working
Jorge, Plug paddles into the PADDLE jack. The KEY jack is for hand key or the output from an external keyer. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/17/2017 3:02 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: Hello after many year with paddles connected to SO2R and WKUSB boxes, now I want to setup a second station for the contest. All is OK with N1MM sending messages stores in function keys, but I couldn´t get working the paddles connected directly to KEY in the back of K3 No send dits, and dots are very slow and dont vary if I increase SPEED in the K3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] paddles directly to K3 - not working
Thanks Guy, Kent and Jim working now 73, Jorge 2017-02-17 17:18 GMT-03:00 Guy Olinger K2AV : > Hi, Jorge, > > The Key jack is for a hand key, bug, or a binary keyed stream from the > logging program/WinKey box/etc. > > Paddles directly to the K3 internal keyer need to be connected to the > "PADDLE" jack and the only way to affect the speed of the K3 internal keyer > is the speed control on the front panel of the K3. > > 73, Guy K2AV > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM > wrote: > >> Hello >> >> after many year with paddles connected to SO2R and WKUSB boxes, now I want >> to setup a second station for the contest. >> >> All is OK with N1MM sending messages stores in function keys, but I >> couldn´t get working the paddles connected directly to KEY in the back of >> K3 >> >> No send dits, and dots are very slow and dont vary if I increase SPEED in >> the K3 >> >> Any suggestions to check in MENU or CONFIG? >> >> thanks! >> Jorge >> CX6VM/CW5W >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com > > > -- 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] paddles directly to K3 - not working
Hi, Jorge, The Key jack is for a hand key, bug, or a binary keyed stream from the logging program/WinKey box/etc. Paddles directly to the K3 internal keyer need to be connected to the "PADDLE" jack and the only way to affect the speed of the K3 internal keyer is the speed control on the front panel of the K3. 73, Guy K2AV On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > Hello > > after many year with paddles connected to SO2R and WKUSB boxes, now I want > to setup a second station for the contest. > > All is OK with N1MM sending messages stores in function keys, but I > couldn´t get working the paddles connected directly to KEY in the back of > K3 > > No send dits, and dots are very slow and dont vary if I increase SPEED in > the K3 > > Any suggestions to check in MENU or CONFIG? > > thanks! > Jorge > CX6VM/CW5W > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2av@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] paddles directly to K3 - not working
Hello after many year with paddles connected to SO2R and WKUSB boxes, now I want to setup a second station for the contest. All is OK with N1MM sending messages stores in function keys, but I couldn´t get working the paddles connected directly to KEY in the back of K3 No send dits, and dots are very slow and dont vary if I increase SPEED in the K3 Any suggestions to check in MENU or CONFIG? thanks! Jorge CX6VM/CW5W __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles
Or u can use an ext keyed on the key in Jack and a paddle on the paddle input using the int keyer. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 4, 2010, at 2:54 PM, "PHIL" wrote: > I may be way off base here but I am curious...Has anyone ever tried > using a "y" cord to hook two sets of paddles up to the K3?? or > would they interfere with each other?? I think it would be cheaper > than making a switch box??? > PHIL. www.n2bee.net > "Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain > consciousness" > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles
That would be SO2K. Single op, two key mode! But the answer to your question is that you can easily use either a Y cable or Y adaptor. I purchased a Y adaptor from Radio Shack for just that purpose. Works great -- as long as you only use one at a time. Dave, N4QS - Original Message - From: "Wes Stewart" To: ; "PHIL" Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Paddles "Y" would they interfere with each other? Are you going to use one with each hand at the same time? --- On Fri, 6/4/10, PHIL wrote: From: PHIL Subject: [Elecraft] Paddles To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 3:54 PM I may be way off base here but I am curious...Has anyone ever tried using a "y" cord to hook two sets of paddles up to the K3?? or would they interfere with each other?? I think it would be cheaper than making a switch box??? PHIL. www.n2bee.net "Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 2:54 PM, PHIL wrote: > I may be way off base here but I am curious...Has anyone ever tried using a > "y" cord to hook two sets of paddles up to the K3?? or would they interfere > with each other?? I think it would be cheaper than making a switch box??? Y-cable (make sure it's a "stereo" one!) should work fine for normal paddles. You're just pulling tip or sleeve to ground when you close the paddle contacts... ~Iain / N6ML __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles
"Y" would they interfere with each other? Are you going to use one with each hand at the same time? --- On Fri, 6/4/10, PHIL wrote: From: PHIL Subject: [Elecraft] Paddles To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 3:54 PM I may be way off base here but I am curious...Has anyone ever tried using a "y" cord to hook two sets of paddles up to the K3?? or would they interfere with each other?? I think it would be cheaper than making a switch box??? PHIL. www.n2bee.net "Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Paddles
I may be way off base here but I am curious...Has anyone ever tried using a "y" cord to hook two sets of paddles up to the K3?? or would they interfere with each other?? I think it would be cheaper than making a switch box??? PHIL. www.n2bee.net "Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles in General/my bug story
Way back in my Novice days (1967), I had a J-37 straight key. And it remained the only key I had for seven years. Once I got the loan of one of those Lafayette bugs but it sounded so bad I went back to the straight key. When I got to college in the fall of 1972, there was a Vibrokeyer and Autronic electronic keyer at the club station (then W3ABT, now N3KZ). I tried it many times but couldn't get the hang of it. For Christmas 1974 I got a Vibroplex Original Standard, thanks to my brother's efforts to convince the family that one big gift was better than a lot of little ones. I took to it right away, and it is still my #1 after 31 years. In the intervening years I've had a Zephyr (sold it), Lightning Bug, Champion, and a 2000 vintage Original, but the 1974 is still my favorite. I've tried keyers but they are simply too fussy for my taste. Of course to set the bug correctly you need a rig with a plate milliammeter, but that's another story... 73 de Jim, N2EY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles in General
FWIW: As a senior in HS in '56-'57, I got a job as a relief operator at a coastal marine station. Everyone had their own bug with a wedge to connect it to the company-provided straight key, and all but mine were Vibroplex. I had acquired a very proletarian looking black-based bug (J-36?) made by Lionel (of model train fame) at a WW2 surplus outlet, and used it until I built what I think was a predcessor of the TO-keyer. The big difference between the Lionel and a Vibroplex was that you could slow the J-36 dot speed down very nicely, whereas the Vibroplex sent dots at about 45WPM with the two weights all the way out to the damper. Not long ago, a friend and former radio operator in the USCG gave me his Vibroplex. I fooled around with it some, including alligator clips on the end of the dot arm to get the dot speed down, but I guess I've been on keyers too long and made almost no progress. I finally modified it to separate the dot and dash contacts and use it as the paddle for the keyer in my FT-847 on 2m. The J36 (or whatever it was) was s much easier to use than the Vibroplex. Incidentally, when I first took my homebrew keyer (9 or 10 dual triodes, and about 12 lbs) into work, the 16-yr old kid took a lot of verbal and some physical flak from the OT's. Eventually, however, most of them asked to try it out ... and two of them commissioned a friend of mine to build one for each of them. People do change! I don't have any problems with the KXPD1, and it is cool to have a totally integrated rig like that. YMMV Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw K2/100 # 4398 KX1 # 897 Vic Rosenthal wrote: After a similar layoff, I re-learned the bug -- it took me two years and I *still* don't sound as good as I did in 1957. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles in General
Paul Heller wrote: Last year I dug the bug out of storage and decided to give it a try again - after all, I was OK with it in the '60s. I almost got to the point where I'd be willing to go on the air with it, but after 40 years I've definitely lost the knack. Hi Paul! After a similar layoff, I re-learned the bug -- it took me two years and I *still* don't sound as good as I did in 1957. One big improvement came when AC7AC told me to use relatively high spring tension on the dot side. This helps prevent the annoying dit-splitting when sending the letter 'A', for example. Another useful bug trick with modern rigs is to debounce the contacts. After trying foam rubber and solid-state solutions, I settled on having the bug operate a Radio Shack reed relay with a large capacitor across the coil (without the capacitor, the relay is fast enough to follow the bounce). -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Paddles in General
Jim Sheldon wrote: I learned on a bug first back in 1961, before I even got my ham license (Army radio operator) and when Hallicrafters came out with the HA-1 keyer, I bought one and didn't look back for several years. I got my license in '61 and used a straight key (surplus J-38) for a couple of years, and then got one of those Japanese bugs that Lafayette Radio sold in those days - wow, what a difference! I got pretty good with it, and used the bug for several years. Then I built a homebrew version of the TO keyer, and was converted instantly - never went back to the bug. Now I've got a good-sized collection of paddles and keyers. Last year I dug the bug out of storage and decided to give it a try again - after all, I was OK with it in the '60s. I almost got to the point where I'd be willing to go on the air with it, but after 40 years I've definitely lost the knack. The other thing I did last year was set up a straight key for SKN - eeek. I never was very good with a straight key, and after all these years of non-straight-key-use, I've lost nearly all traces of that particular skill. Thank heaven for keyers. I used to worry that we'd all wind up sounding the same, what with the near-perfect code you can send with a keyer, but there are still enough little differences in fists even with keyers that you can recognize many individuals after listening for a few seconds. /Paul W3PH -- /Paul Heller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.his.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Paddles in General
Paul and others, Don't give up on the bug just yet hi. It usually takes a year or more to develop a "clean" fist with a bug. Set the dot arm stop for a gap of slightly less than 1/8 inch. Set the dot contact so that when the dot paddle is pressed, you get evenly spaced dots for 3 to 4 seconds, and keep the contacts CLEAN. Never file the contacts, burnish them with rough paper like uncoated business card stock or some such. This will go far to helping you learn to use it. As you have been sending with a keyer, I'm sure you know what good spacing sounds like. Try to emulate that when sending with the bug. I learned on a bug first back in 1961, before I even got my ham license (Army radio operator) and when Hallicrafters came out with the HA-1 keyer, I bought one and didn't look back for several years. Because of what I did in the Army, I taught myself over the period of a year or more to switch back and forth between the bug and a Vibroplex single lever paddle. I was given a very nice Vibroplex "Original Deluxe" model that was manufactured in 1962, a year before I was first licensed, as a Christmas present. Even though I hadn't touched a bug in years, I found that my training of 30 years ago came back with a few hours practice, and my "Bug" fist was a lot better this time around as I now have a much better feel for what "good" cw is supposed to sound like. Not very many people master a bug to the point where they sound like a keyer, but I have heard a few that come close (definitely not me, but I try.) 73 and Practice-Practice-Practice hi hi. Jim - W0EB Wichita, KS > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul > Gates, KD3JF > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:18 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] Paddles in General > > > I have been reading the emails on paddles and > especially the KXPD1. I hesitated about the paddle > when I was thinking of getting a KX1. I hated to spend > that much money for a paddle. Usually since I am > retired and do not make much money I have to sell in > order to buy. Well, this time I got some money that I > was not expecting which would cover the KX1 and all > the perks. I am not disappointed. I like the KXPD1 > very much. I have alway accepted the Apostle Paul's > message that whatever circumstances we find ourselves > to be content!! > > Through the 44 years I have had keys, Vibroplex > paddles, Bencher paddles, etc. I did purchase years > ago Vibroplex Bug! Was that ever a mistake. My first > thought was How can I get rid of this thing!! > In fact if I detect a guy or gal using a bug and > calling CQ I will QSY immediately. However, after > saying all that at the National Museum of Amer. > History in Wash. DC where I volunteer on Wed's, we > have a Bencher Paddle and a Vibroplex Bug and I am > trying to learn to send on that "blasted" Bug!! And > when I try to adjust the weight I go crazy! > > Of course I consider myself a new comer to CW because > I did no CW from 1985 to 2003. > > Paul, KD3JF > > On the double paddles I never squeeze for I just touch > softly and I am very pleased! > > Paul > > Paul Gates, KD3JF > K1 #0231 > KX1 #1186 > XG1 > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Paddles in General
I have been reading the emails on paddles and especially the KXPD1. I hesitated about the paddle when I was thinking of getting a KX1. I hated to spend that much money for a paddle. Usually since I am retired and do not make much money I have to sell in order to buy. Well, this time I got some money that I was not expecting which would cover the KX1 and all the perks. I am not disappointed. I like the KXPD1 very much. I have alway accepted the Apostle Paul's message that whatever circumstances we find ourselves to be content!! Through the 44 years I have had keys, Vibroplex paddles, Bencher paddles, etc. I did purchase years ago Vibroplex Bug! Was that ever a mistake. My first thought was How can I get rid of this thing!! In fact if I detect a guy or gal using a bug and calling CQ I will QSY immediately. However, after saying all that at the National Museum of Amer. History in Wash. DC where I volunteer on Wed's, we have a Bencher Paddle and a Vibroplex Bug and I am trying to learn to send on that "blasted" Bug!! And when I try to adjust the weight I go crazy! Of course I consider myself a new comer to CW because I did no CW from 1985 to 2003. Paul, KD3JF On the double paddles I never squeeze for I just touch softly and I am very pleased! Paul Paul Gates, KD3JF K1 #0231 KX1 #1186 XG1 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
