Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
I did the same. Check thrift stores for a RS-232 switch if you don’t already have one. I picked mine for 25 cents at the local thrift store. scl > > On 2014-08-14 9:00 PM, Jim N7US wrote: >> I connected an A/B switchbox to switch the radio between the MKII and a >> serial port on the computer (or an Edgeport US/serial box). It has been >> easy to switch the K3/P3 to the serial port for firmware updates. >> >> 73, Jim N7US >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> Every microHAM Users Manual includes a specific warning *NOT* to upload >> *any* transceiver firmware via the microHAM device. The microHAM device >> constantly polls the transceiver for frequency and mode. Those polls are >> not compatible with firmware uploads. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 2014-08-14 7:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> Kurt, >>> >>> Both Microham and Elecraft warn that one should not attempt firmware >>> downloads through the MicroHam device. Other K3Utility functions work >>> fine through the Microham device. >>> >>> If you have a real serial port on the computer, that is the preferred >>> connection, otherwise a good USB to serial adapter is the best answer. >>> The preferred adapter is one using an FTDI chip. Others may work (and >>> I can also recommend EdgePort). >>> >>> BTW - there are counterfeit FTDI and Prolific USB to serial adapters >>> on the market. Both Prolific and FTDI have created new drivers for >>> Windows >>> 7 and above that detect those counterfeits and render them unusable - >>> so steer clear of bargain priced adapters whose instructions tell you >>> to turn off Windows updates and run their 'special' drivers. >>> >>> The Elecraft KUSB cable uses an authentic FTDI chip. I have also had >>> success with a Keyspan adapter that was supplied for testing by a >> customer. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> On 8/14/2014 7:02 PM, Kurt Wiksten wrote: Thanks to everybody for your advice. But my problem still not solved, because I am communicating with the K3 via my Microkeyer2. Reading the K3 Utility Helpfiles shows that it might be a problem that my USB to serial connection is via my Microkeyer2 and the recommendation is to change the cabling so that the PC is connected directly to the K3 and that cable does not fit the K3 RS232 port. I suppose I will have to order the KUSB-cable from Elecraft. >> >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to li...@subich.com >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k...@cox.net Steve - KY7K k...@arrl.net Get OUT and play radio! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
On 2014-08-14 9:00 PM, Jim N7US wrote: I connected an A/B switchbox to switch the radio between the MKII and a serial port on the computer (or an Edgeport US/serial box). As did I ... COM1 on the motherboard goes to a 4 port switch. Two of the ports go to two ports switches on each K3/P3. The third port goes to the cable for the XG3 and the fourth port goes to a AA5AU style CW/PTT/FSK interface for general testing. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-14 9:00 PM, Jim N7US wrote: I connected an A/B switchbox to switch the radio between the MKII and a serial port on the computer (or an Edgeport US/serial box). It has been easy to switch the K3/P3 to the serial port for firmware updates. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Every microHAM Users Manual includes a specific warning *NOT* to upload *any* transceiver firmware via the microHAM device. The microHAM device constantly polls the transceiver for frequency and mode. Those polls are not compatible with firmware uploads. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-14 7:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Kurt, Both Microham and Elecraft warn that one should not attempt firmware downloads through the MicroHam device. Other K3Utility functions work fine through the Microham device. If you have a real serial port on the computer, that is the preferred connection, otherwise a good USB to serial adapter is the best answer. The preferred adapter is one using an FTDI chip. Others may work (and I can also recommend EdgePort). BTW - there are counterfeit FTDI and Prolific USB to serial adapters on the market. Both Prolific and FTDI have created new drivers for Windows 7 and above that detect those counterfeits and render them unusable - so steer clear of bargain priced adapters whose instructions tell you to turn off Windows updates and run their 'special' drivers. The Elecraft KUSB cable uses an authentic FTDI chip. I have also had success with a Keyspan adapter that was supplied for testing by a customer. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/14/2014 7:02 PM, Kurt Wiksten wrote: Thanks to everybody for your advice. But my problem still not solved, because I am communicating with the K3 via my Microkeyer2. Reading the K3 Utility Helpfiles shows that it might be a problem that my USB to serial connection is via my Microkeyer2 and the recommendation is to change the cabling so that the PC is connected directly to the K3 and that cable does not fit the K3 RS232 port. I suppose I will have to order the KUSB-cable from Elecraft. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
I connected an A/B switchbox to switch the radio between the MKII and a serial port on the computer (or an Edgeport US/serial box). It has been easy to switch the K3/P3 to the serial port for firmware updates. 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- Every microHAM Users Manual includes a specific warning *NOT* to upload *any* transceiver firmware via the microHAM device. The microHAM device constantly polls the transceiver for frequency and mode. Those polls are not compatible with firmware uploads. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-14 7:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Kurt, > > Both Microham and Elecraft warn that one should not attempt firmware > downloads through the MicroHam device. Other K3Utility functions work > fine through the Microham device. > > If you have a real serial port on the computer, that is the preferred > connection, otherwise a good USB to serial adapter is the best answer. > The preferred adapter is one using an FTDI chip. Others may work (and > I can also recommend EdgePort). > > BTW - there are counterfeit FTDI and Prolific USB to serial adapters > on the market. Both Prolific and FTDI have created new drivers for > Windows > 7 and above that detect those counterfeits and render them unusable - > so steer clear of bargain priced adapters whose instructions tell you > to turn off Windows updates and run their 'special' drivers. > > The Elecraft KUSB cable uses an authentic FTDI chip. I have also had > success with a Keyspan adapter that was supplied for testing by a customer. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 8/14/2014 7:02 PM, Kurt Wiksten wrote: >> Thanks to everybody for your advice. >> But my problem still not solved, because I am communicating with the >> K3 via my Microkeyer2. >> Reading the K3 Utility Helpfiles shows that it might be a problem >> that my USB to serial connection is via my Microkeyer2 and the >> recommendation is to change the cabling so that the PC is connected >> directly to the K3 and that cable does not fit the K3 RS232 port. >> I suppose I will have to order the KUSB-cable from Elecraft. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
Every microHAM Users Manual includes a specific warning *NOT* to upload *any* transceiver firmware via the microHAM device. The microHAM device constantly polls the transceiver for frequency and mode. Those polls are not compatible with firmware uploads. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-08-14 7:30 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Kurt, Both Microham and Elecraft warn that one should not attempt firmware downloads through the MicroHam device. Other K3Utility functions work fine through the Microham device. If you have a real serial port on the computer, that is the preferred connection, otherwise a good USB to serial adapter is the best answer. The preferred adapter is one using an FTDI chip. Others may work (and I can also recommend EdgePort). BTW - there are counterfeit FTDI and Prolific USB to serial adapters on the market. Both Prolific and FTDI have created new drivers for Windows 7 and above that detect those counterfeits and render them unusable - so steer clear of bargain priced adapters whose instructions tell you to turn off Windows updates and run their 'special' drivers. The Elecraft KUSB cable uses an authentic FTDI chip. I have also had success with a Keyspan adapter that was supplied for testing by a customer. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/14/2014 7:02 PM, Kurt Wiksten wrote: Thanks to everybody for your advice. But my problem still not solved, because I am communicating with the K3 via my Microkeyer2. Reading the K3 Utility Helpfiles shows that it might be a problem that my USB to serial connection is via my Microkeyer2 and the recommendation is to change the cabling so that the PC is connected directly to the K3 and that cable does not fit the K3 RS232 port. I suppose I will have to order the KUSB-cable from Elecraft. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
Kurt, Both Microham and Elecraft warn that one should not attempt firmware downloads through the MicroHam device. Other K3Utility functions work fine through the Microham device. If you have a real serial port on the computer, that is the preferred connection, otherwise a good USB to serial adapter is the best answer. The preferred adapter is one using an FTDI chip. Others may work (and I can also recommend EdgePort). BTW - there are counterfeit FTDI and Prolific USB to serial adapters on the market. Both Prolific and FTDI have created new drivers for Windows 7 and above that detect those counterfeits and render them unusable - so steer clear of bargain priced adapters whose instructions tell you to turn off Windows updates and run their 'special' drivers. The Elecraft KUSB cable uses an authentic FTDI chip. I have also had success with a Keyspan adapter that was supplied for testing by a customer. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/14/2014 7:02 PM, Kurt Wiksten wrote: Thanks to everybody for your advice. But my problem still not solved, because I am communicating with the K3 via my Microkeyer2. Reading the K3 Utility Helpfiles shows that it might be a problem that my USB to serial connection is via my Microkeyer2 and the recommendation is to change the cabling so that the PC is connected directly to the K3 and that cable does not fit the K3 RS232 port. I suppose I will have to order the KUSB-cable from Elecraft. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
Hi Kurt, I don't have a Microkeyer but I distinctly remember some list traffic some time back warning, "Don't try to update firmware through a Microkeyer." If you look at the block diagram on the Microham web site, the CAT interface comes from the internal CPU in the Microkeyer. Assuming my memory is at least partially still intact, I believe that was the problem, the firmware in the Microkeyer interferes with the K3 handshaking with the K3 Utility during FW loads. What are your connectors? The K3 is a 2 row female DB9 if I remember right [it's buried back in the non-wireless part of my station and its very dark back there] You can probably get a USB-RS232 adapter locally cheaper than paying shipping costs. The Elecraft adapter I have uses the Prolific chip set and runs fine. Some say the FTDI chip set is more reliable. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 8/14/2014 4:02 PM, Kurt Wiksten wrote: Thanks to everybody for your advice. But my problem still not solved, because I am communicating with the K3 via my Microkeyer2. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
Thanks to everybody for your advice. But my problem still not solved, because I am communicating with the K3 via my Microkeyer2. Reading the K3 Utility Helpfiles shows that it might be a problem that my USB to serial connection is via my Microkeyer2 and the recommendation is to change the cabling so that the PC is connected directly to the K3 and that cable does not fit the K3 RS232 port. I suppose I will have to order the KUSB-cable from Elecraft. Any other suggestions? Kurt/SM6BGG - Original Message - From: "Jim Rogers" To: "Kurt Wiksten" Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update Kurt, Remember the K3 is basically an SDR and has a computer heart. Make sure you have power to the K3. Don't worry about the power switch on the front panel, it is not operational until the firmware is in place. The flashing TX LED is a good sign, it says the K3 is awaiting the firmware. Verify your connections for the firmware upload to the K3 and retry it. Once you get the firmware back into the K3, the front panel power switch will work again and all will be well. Jim, W4ATK On 8/14/2014 12:01 PM, Kurt Wiksten wrote: I was trying to load new firmware to my K3. Present MCU version 04.51. When started I got some Err message and the Tx lamp blinked and the K3 screen darkend. I tryed to switch the power off on the K3 but it did not work so I paniced and switched the power supply off. I have tryed to switch the power on again but it is not possible. What do I do?? Please help! Kurt/SM6BGG -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 3975 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jim.w4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
K3 Utility Help, Troubleshooting, MCU Load failure. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kurt Wiksten Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update I was trying to load new firmware to my K3. Present MCU version 04.51. When started I got some Err message and the Tx lamp blinked and the K3 screen darkend. I tryed to switch the power off on the K3 but it did not work so I paniced and switched the power supply off. I have tryed to switch the power on again but it is not possible. What do I do?? Please help! Kurt/SM6BGG -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 3975 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Problems with K3 firmware update
I was trying to load new firmware to my K3. Present MCU version 04.51. When started I got some Err message and the Tx lamp blinked and the K3 screen darkend. I tryed to switch the power off on the K3 but it did not work so I paniced and switched the power supply off. I have tryed to switch the power on again but it is not possible. What do I do?? Please help! Kurt/SM6BGG -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 3975 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
