[Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2016-05-24 Thread Don Rasmussen via Elecraft
Or a burglar hiding in the attic - OM. ;-)
Hony - did you just hear a dit dit?
Thanks to its small size and high level of integration, it's the radio 
you'd wish you had while hanging precariously from a cliff, sitting high in a 
tree, hiding from burglars in an attic, or any of numerous other likely 
operating scenarios.
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Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-27 Thread Rick M0LEP
On Thu 26 Sep Rick Johnson wrote:
 QRP puts the onus on the receiving station.
 No problem transmitting 5W.

If you want to make contacts with a QRP station you need to pay a lot 
more attention to your antenna. You will likely make things a bit easier 
for the other end of the QSO if you push that 5 watts into a good 
antenna than if you push it into something that's more dummy load...

Of course, your QRP station is also a receiving station, and a good 
antenna matters there, too. As we're fond of saying to our licence 
training course pupils; You can't work them if you can't hear them.

I also use my KX3 as a home rig for SOTA chasing (and other things). 
Sure, it'll run to 12 watts on the home PSU, so not quite QRP, but you 
still need to make those watts count...

-- 
... 73, Rick, M0LEP

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Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Rick M0LEP
On Thu 26 Sep Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 Y'know, most of the DX I work is on dead bands, usually 20 meters

Yeah, QRP often has the best chance when the bands are dead. Once the 
big guns get the idea that a band is open QRP can get quite difficult. I 
was out on a SOTA summit yesterday with my KX3 trying to get another 12 
metres challenge multiplier, and I could hear quite a bit of activity on 
the band, but wasn't able to make myself heard either when I called CQ 
or when I answered others' calls.
 
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... 73, Rick, M0LEP

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Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Stephen Roberts
Sorry no joy there Rick, but at least you had a nice day in the great outdoors.

My latest adventure was a QSO with a station in Japan on 20m yesterday (I'm 
in VT with a KX3). I have to count countries, but after about a year and a half 
of operating, I'm up to 150 or so. Still trying to reach that Myanmar 
operation, bit no luck so far. I don't think my antenna is up to it. BUT like 
John Shannon has said in his FISTS piece recently, the pleasure and challenge 
of low power QSO's makes up for the occasional inability to make a contact.

72/73
Steve
W1SFR


On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Rick M0LEP wrote:

 On Thu 26 Sep Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 Y'know, most of the DX I work is on dead bands, usually 20 meters
 
 Yeah, QRP often has the best chance when the bands are dead. Once the 
 big guns get the idea that a band is open QRP can get quite difficult. I 
 was out on a SOTA summit yesterday with my KX3 trying to get another 12 
 metres challenge multiplier, and I could hear quite a bit of activity on 
 the band, but wasn't able to make myself heard either when I called CQ 
 or when I answered others' calls.
 
 -- 
 ... 73, Rick, M0LEP
 
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Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Rick M0LEP
On Thu 26 Sep Stephen Roberts wrote:
 at least you had a nice day in the great outdoors.

which is at least half the point of activities like SOTA. It'd be 
nice if the summits nearest to me were more interesting, but I'd have to 
move house to make that the case.

 My latest adventure was a QSO with a station in Japan on 20m yesterday

QRP sometimes throws in surprises like that.

 I don't think my antenna is up to it.

Experimenting with antennas is a big part of the challenge. The KX3's 
ATU makes that a bit easier. One thing that's pretty much guaranteed is 
that the antennas you've cut and tuned to near perfection in your back 
garden will find some interesting way to behave when stuck up on a rocky 
summit, or wherever, and the ATU helps keep them in line...

My main QTH antennas could do with a re-think, though. I dream of having 
something steerable with a bit of directionality... ;)

 the pleasure and challenge of low power QSO's makes up for the 
 occasional inability to make a contact.

Heh. First time I took a radio to Kenya, back in mid 2011 when the 
sunspots were all but absent, all I had was an FT817. Making contacts 
from there with 5 watts was quite hard work; I think I averaged fewer 
than two QSOs per day overall...

-- 
... 73, Rick, M0LEP

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Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Ariel Jacala
I have to add that my greatest pride as a ham is having DXCC and WAS with QRP 
power. I am up to 175 countries (mostly with Elecraft gear) but i still enjoy 
QRP despite having the ability now to transmit  at the legal limit. One thing 
that QRP operation teaches you is knowing when and what conditions are in your 
favor, timing, propagation and teaches listening skills.  It is a good thing 
that Elecraft rigs have good ears.

Ariel NY4G

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 26, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Stephen Roberts steve...@shoreham.net wrote:

 Sorry no joy there Rick, but at least you had a nice day in the great 
 outdoors.
 
 My latest adventure was a QSO with a station in Japan on 20m yesterday (I'm 
 in VT with a KX3). I have to count countries, but after about a year and a 
 half of operating, I'm up to 150 or so. Still trying to reach that Myanmar 
 operation, bit no luck so far. I don't think my antenna is up to it. BUT like 
 John Shannon has said in his FISTS piece recently, the pleasure and challenge 
 of low power QSO's makes up for the occasional inability to make a contact.
 
 72/73
 Steve
 W1SFR
 
 
 On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Rick M0LEP wrote:
 
 On Thu 26 Sep Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
 Y'know, most of the DX I work is on dead bands, usually 20 meters
 
 Yeah, QRP often has the best chance when the bands are dead. Once the 
 big guns get the idea that a band is open QRP can get quite difficult. I 
 was out on a SOTA summit yesterday with my KX3 trying to get another 12 
 metres challenge multiplier, and I could hear quite a bit of activity on 
 the band, but wasn't able to make myself heard either when I called CQ 
 or when I answered others' calls.
 
 -- 
 ... 73, Rick, M0LEP
 
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Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Rick Johnson
QRP puts the onus on the receiving station.
No problem transmitting 5W.
 
73,
Rick W3BI
 
 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:58:04 +
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 From: m0...@chocky.demon.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP
 
 On Thu 26 Sep Stephen Roberts wrote:
  at least you had a nice day in the great outdoors.
 
 which is at least half the point of activities like SOTA. It'd be 
 nice if the summits nearest to me were more interesting, but I'd have to 
 move house to make that the case.
 
  My latest adventure was a QSO with a station in Japan on 20m yesterday
 
 QRP sometimes throws in surprises like that.
 
  I don't think my antenna is up to it.
 
 Experimenting with antennas is a big part of the challenge. The KX3's 
 ATU makes that a bit easier. One thing that's pretty much guaranteed is 
 that the antennas you've cut and tuned to near perfection in your back 
 garden will find some interesting way to behave when stuck up on a rocky 
 summit, or wherever, and the ATU helps keep them in line...
 
 My main QTH antennas could do with a re-think, though. I dream of having 
 something steerable with a bit of directionality... ;)
 
  the pleasure and challenge of low power QSO's makes up for the 
  occasional inability to make a contact.
 
 Heh. First time I took a radio to Kenya, back in mid 2011 when the 
 sunspots were all but absent, all I had was an FT817. Making contacts 
 from there with 5 watts was quite hard work; I think I averaged fewer 
 than two QSOs per day overall...
 
 -- 
 ... 73, Rick, M0LEP
 
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Re: [Elecraft] The Joy of QRP

2013-09-26 Thread Jim Brown

On 9/26/2013 12:37 AM, Rick M0LEP wrote:

Yeah, QRP often has the best chance when the bands are dead.


QRP can also be rewarding when the bands are full in a major contest.  
DX contests scoring rules put west coast stations at a 10:1 disadvantage 
to those around the Atlantic basin, so most of us out here use them as 
nothing more than an attempt to pick up DX countries. In the last year 
or so, I've started running 5W in the ARRL and CQ contests. I can't 
compete with big signals, I don't get through with marginal propagation, 
and I can't work the alligators (those with big TX but no RX) but I do 
work those with good ears when propagation is right.  In only a couple 
of such efforts, I've worked 65 countries on the HF bands. On160M, I've 
worked about a dozen DX countries (two contests and several DXpeditions) 
and 44 US states.


NEVER, NEVER, EVER send /QRP in a contest. It only slows things down, 
and many serious ops, including me, will treat you as a lid and ignore 
you.  When you're weak, transmit nothing but the minimum -- your call, 
and the exchange, NEVER repeat anything that the other station has 
copied correctly, and when he asks for a repeat, be prepared to repeat 
several times.


73, Jim K9YC
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