Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
The com ports of Microham devices can be made stable, even though it uses USB to get to the box, by simply loading the USB Device router at boot time. So my COM 7 and COM 8 never change, because those numbers have been set in software before any variable plug and play USB stuff is run because of whatever USB stuff you have plugged in today. The COM ports of microHAM hardware are stable because they use serial numbered devices. Windows will remember a COM assignment if the device contains a serial number because is associates the serial number and port assignment no matter which port that device uses. However, most commodity hardware lacks a serial number and all Windows can do is assign a new COM number to every new device/new port it sees. Like everything else, you get what you pay for ... if you are going to use the lowest cost commodity hardware, you will get commodity level performance. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 12/25/2010 10:22 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: One of the things that Win 7 does a lot is to rearrange com ports. This may NOT be your trouble, but it certainly happens enough, and is NOT a driver problem, and can still happen and keep you from talking to your K3. After you plug in the USB cable for the USB/serial, bring up the device manager (type device manager in the start menu search bar and click on it in the list of candidate programs it generates). Click on Ports (COM LPT). Look for the com port THAT WAS ASSIGNED BY WINDOWS. Start up the K3 utility, click the Port tab. Set the COM port to match what you just found in device manager. YOU MAY HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY TIME YOU START WINDOWS, particularly if you have a lot of different USB devices you attach and remove from time to time. This is one of the reasons I bought a PCI-Ex Serial Card. It gets registered at bootup and is always in the list. You can then right click on the device and select properties, click the Port Settings tab, and then assign a low COM port number that it will permanently retain. I use COM1 and COM2, and have simply quit having com port troubles of any kind. The com ports of Microham devices can be made stable, even though it uses USB to get to the box, by simply loading the USB Device router at boot time. So my COM 7 and COM 8 never change, because those numbers have been set in software before any variable plug and play USB stuff is run because of whatever USB stuff you have plugged in today. I don't personally know of a way to fix USB com ports in the registry or some such, without the device actually active. I did go looking for that information. Anyone know how to do that? 73, Guy. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Robert Redmonk5sm@gmail.com wrote: Dick, I tried the driver on the Elecraft download page first. It loaded okay and windows recognized the adapter when I connected it, but it could not communicate with the K3 using the K3 Utility (latest release version). I will download and try v1.30 of the prolific driver when their download site is up and working properly againIt isn't right now. Bob K5SM On 12/25/2010 5:06 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: I think I understand that issue. Sometimes the driver issues a data available signal but when you subsequently ask for the data, none is there. My view is that this boundary condition could have been handled a bit better by the MS VB common communications DLL, but my view doesn't help the poor guy using That DLL. You make a good point, but I'm not sure Prolific is entirely at fault here. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 14:15, WILLIS COOKEwrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, I had no difficulty with the Elecraft supplied K3 utilities, but could not control the K3 from N1MM and XMLog. These logging programs were complied using Visual Basic and I was told that the Prolific driver and Visual Basic had a register conflict. When I bought the PCIe RS-232 card it cured my problems and I have not worried with it since. I got the latest Prolific drivers from the web site a little over a year ago, but have not updated them since I quit using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ *From:* Dick Dievendorffdie...@comcast.netmailto:die...@comcast.net *To:* WILLIS COOKEwrco...@yahoo.commailto:wrco...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Robert Redmonk5sm@gmail.commailto:k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net *Sent:* Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ *From:* Dick Dievendorffdie...@comcast.netmailto:die...@comcast.net *To:* WILLIS COOKEwrco...@yahoo.commailto:wrco...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Robert Redmonk5sm@gmail.commailto:k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net *Sent:* Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKEwrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.comwrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmonk5sm@gmail.commailto:k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKEwrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmonk5sm@gmail.commailto:k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.netmailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
Thanks to all who responded. Apparently my adapter is going to be useless with my new computer. 73 and Merry Christmas Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
Dick, I had no difficulty with the Elecraft supplied K3 utilities, but could not control the K3 from N1MM and XMLog. These logging programs were complied using Visual Basic and I was told that the Prolific driver and Visual Basic had a register conflict. When I bought the PCIe RS-232 card it cured my problems and I have not worried with it since. I got the latest Prolific drivers from the web site a little over a year ago, but have not updated them since I quit using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
I think I understand that issue. Sometimes the driver issues a data available signal but when you subsequently ask for the data, none is there. My view is that this boundary condition could have been handled a bit better by the MS VB common communications DLL, but my view doesn't help the poor guy using That DLL. You make a good point, but I'm not sure Prolific is entirely at fault here. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 14:15, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, I had no difficulty with the Elecraft supplied K3 utilities, but could not control the K3 from N1MM and XMLog. These logging programs were complied using Visual Basic and I was told that the Prolific driver and Visual Basic had a register conflict. When I bought the PCIe RS-232 card it cured my problems and I have not worried with it since. I got the latest Prolific drivers from the web site a little over a year ago, but have not updated them since I quit using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
True!, but in this conflict Microsoft is the big dog, Prolific is the tail, Elecraft is the flea and I am probably not even a hair! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 5:06:00 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I think I understand that issue. Sometimes the driver issues a data available signal but when you subsequently ask for the data, none is there. My view is that this boundary condition could have been handled a bit better by the MS VB common communications DLL, but my view doesn't help the poor guy using That DLL. You make a good point, but I'm not sure Prolific is entirely at fault here. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 14:15, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, I had no difficulty with the Elecraft supplied K3 utilities, but could not control the K3 from N1MM and XMLog. These logging programs were complied using Visual Basic and I was told that the Prolific driver and Visual Basic had a register conflict. When I bought the PCIe RS-232 card it cured my problems and I have not worried with it since. I got the latest Prolific drivers from the web site a little over a year ago, but have not updated them since I quit using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
Dick, I tried the driver on the Elecraft download page first. It loaded okay and windows recognized the adapter when I connected it, but it could not communicate with the K3 using the K3 Utility (latest release version). I will download and try v1.30 of the prolific driver when their download site is up and working properly againIt isn't right now. Bob K5SM On 12/25/2010 5:06 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: I think I understand that issue. Sometimes the driver issues a data available signal but when you subsequently ask for the data, none is there. My view is that this boundary condition could have been handled a bit better by the MS VB common communications DLL, but my view doesn't help the poor guy using That DLL. You make a good point, but I'm not sure Prolific is entirely at fault here. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 14:15, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, I had no difficulty with the Elecraft supplied K3 utilities, but could not control the K3 from N1MM and XMLog. These logging programs were complied using Visual Basic and I was told that the Prolific driver and Visual Basic had a register conflict. When I bought the PCIe RS-232 card it cured my problems and I have not worried with it since. I got the latest Prolific drivers from the web site a little over a year ago, but have not updated them since I quit using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ *From:* Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net mailto:die...@comcast.net *To:* WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com mailto:k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net *Sent:* Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com mailto:k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I have a new laptop with W7/64bit and can't get my USB/Serial adapter to work (with my K3). It all works fine on my XP (32bit) computers. Anyone who can help? 73, Bob K5SM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
About mid-2010, when I went from an XP machine to a W7-64bit, I just plugged in my Prolific USB to RS232 adaptor. W7 then loaded its drivers and off it went in a matter of seconds. My SignaLink (USB sound card) worked just as easily. Both fully interfaced my K3 with the computer with no hassles. George AI4VZ Dick I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
On Dec 25, 2010, at 3:45 PM, George Jan wrote: My SignaLink (USB sound card) worked just as easily. It is a completely different story with that one. 16 bit Audio is an integral part of the USB Class specifications. The chip in the SignaLink (TI/Burr-Brown) is compliant with the USB specification, so it just works on Operating Systems that has implemented USB completely. However, you will still expect to need a driver to use 24 bit sound cards. Some sound cards get around this restriction by transferring 16 bits to the computer even though the internal codec is 20 bits or more (the early Griffin Technology iMic was like that). Common USB classes include Mass Storage (e.g., hard drives, thumb drives, built-in memory in digital cameras), HID (mouse, keyboards), Imaging (still camera image capture), and Audio (sound cards and MIDI). But Serial Drivers (or Virtual COM Port, as some call it) is not part of the USB specification. If your OS does not already come with the serial adapter manufacturer's driver pre-loaded, you will need to install the driver yourself. Many people make the mistake of upgrading to a different OS without checking if drivers are available. If you depend on serial ports and high end sound cards, it is probably best not to upgrade (or buy a new computer that can only run the new stuff) until you know the drivers which you need are available. 73 Chen, W7AY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
One of the things that Win 7 does a lot is to rearrange com ports. This may NOT be your trouble, but it certainly happens enough, and is NOT a driver problem, and can still happen and keep you from talking to your K3. After you plug in the USB cable for the USB/serial, bring up the device manager (type device manager in the start menu search bar and click on it in the list of candidate programs it generates). Click on Ports (COM LPT). Look for the com port THAT WAS ASSIGNED BY WINDOWS. Start up the K3 utility, click the Port tab. Set the COM port to match what you just found in device manager. YOU MAY HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY TIME YOU START WINDOWS, particularly if you have a lot of different USB devices you attach and remove from time to time. This is one of the reasons I bought a PCI-Ex Serial Card. It gets registered at bootup and is always in the list. You can then right click on the device and select properties, click the Port Settings tab, and then assign a low COM port number that it will permanently retain. I use COM1 and COM2, and have simply quit having com port troubles of any kind. The com ports of Microham devices can be made stable, even though it uses USB to get to the box, by simply loading the USB Device router at boot time. So my COM 7 and COM 8 never change, because those numbers have been set in software before any variable plug and play USB stuff is run because of whatever USB stuff you have plugged in today. I don't personally know of a way to fix USB com ports in the registry or some such, without the device actually active. I did go looking for that information. Anyone know how to do that? 73, Guy. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com wrote: Dick, I tried the driver on the Elecraft download page first. It loaded okay and windows recognized the adapter when I connected it, but it could not communicate with the K3 using the K3 Utility (latest release version). I will download and try v1.30 of the prolific driver when their download site is up and working properly againIt isn't right now. Bob K5SM On 12/25/2010 5:06 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: I think I understand that issue. Sometimes the driver issues a data available signal but when you subsequently ask for the data, none is there. My view is that this boundary condition could have been handled a bit better by the MS VB common communications DLL, but my view doesn't help the poor guy using That DLL. You make a good point, but I'm not sure Prolific is entirely at fault here. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 14:15, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, I had no difficulty with the Elecraft supplied K3 utilities, but could not control the K3 from N1MM and XMLog. These logging programs were complied using Visual Basic and I was told that the Prolific driver and Visual Basic had a register conflict. When I bought the PCIe RS-232 card it cured my problems and I have not worried with it since. I got the latest Prolific drivers from the web site a little over a year ago, but have not updated them since I quit using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ *From:* Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net mailto:die...@comcast.net *To:* WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com mailto:k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net *Sent:* Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely Prolific will eventually get their act together and publish a driver which will work with W7, maybe they have by now. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com mailto:k5sm@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, December 25, 2010 2:26:43 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit
Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter
I haven't done this on Win 7, but I verified that the K3 Utility worked on COM255 by using the device manager property page for a KUSB to change the assigned port number. No registry hack required. But that was on XP. I'm away from machines now or I'd try it again on Win 7. Dick On Dec 25, 2010, at 19:22, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: One of the things that Win 7 does a lot is to rearrange com ports. This may NOT be your trouble, but it certainly happens enough, and is NOT a driver problem, and can still happen and keep you from talking to your K3. After you plug in the USB cable for the USB/serial, bring up the device manager (type device manager in the start menu search bar and click on it in the list of candidate programs it generates). Click on Ports (COM LPT). Look for the com port THAT WAS ASSIGNED BY WINDOWS. Start up the K3 utility, click the Port tab. Set the COM port to match what you just found in device manager. YOU MAY HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY TIME YOU START WINDOWS, particularly if you have a lot of different USB devices you attach and remove from time to time. This is one of the reasons I bought a PCI-Ex Serial Card. It gets registered at bootup and is always in the list. You can then right click on the device and select properties, click the Port Settings tab, and then assign a low COM port number that it will permanently retain. I use COM1 and COM2, and have simply quit having com port troubles of any kind. The com ports of Microham devices can be made stable, even though it uses USB to get to the box, by simply loading the USB Device router at boot time. So my COM 7 and COM 8 never change, because those numbers have been set in software before any variable plug and play USB stuff is run because of whatever USB stuff you have plugged in today. I don't personally know of a way to fix USB com ports in the registry or some such, without the device actually active. I did go looking for that information. Anyone know how to do that? 73, Guy. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com wrote: Dick, I tried the driver on the Elecraft download page first. It loaded okay and windows recognized the adapter when I connected it, but it could not communicate with the K3 using the K3 Utility (latest release version). I will download and try v1.30 of the prolific driver when their download site is up and working properly againIt isn't right now. Bob K5SM On 12/25/2010 5:06 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote: I think I understand that issue. Sometimes the driver issues a data available signal but when you subsequently ask for the data, none is there. My view is that this boundary condition could have been handled a bit better by the MS VB common communications DLL, but my view doesn't help the poor guy using That DLL. You make a good point, but I'm not sure Prolific is entirely at fault here. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 14:15, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Dick, I had no difficulty with the Elecraft supplied K3 utilities, but could not control the K3 from N1MM and XMLog. These logging programs were complied using Visual Basic and I was told that the Prolific driver and Visual Basic had a register conflict. When I bought the PCIe RS-232 card it cured my problems and I have not worried with it since. I got the latest Prolific drivers from the web site a little over a year ago, but have not updated them since I quit using the Elecraft supplied Prolific converter. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ *From:* Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net mailto:die...@comcast.net *To:* WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com *Cc:* Robert Redmon k5sm@gmail.com mailto:k5sm@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net *Sent:* Sat, December 25, 2010 3:49:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Windows 7 64bit and USB to RS232 adapter I use an older Prolific based KUSB with my Windows 7 64 bit system that I use to develop and test the various Elecraft Utilities. I got my drivers from the Prolific web site listed in K3 Utility Help, see Troubleshooting USB to serial adapters section. Dick, K6KR On Dec 25, 2010, at 12:57, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com wrote: Bob, the Prolific converters do not work well with W7. I have been using W7 with my K3 for over a year with a PCIe card RS-232 port. It worked the first time with no problems. Elecraf has quit selling the Prolific converter, but the one they were selling two years ago was Prolific. I think that some are having good results from the FTDI chip set converters which Elecraft is shipping now. You will need the latest drivers which are available from the FTDI web site. Surely
