[Elecraft] k3, heil pr781 mic, behringer 1204usb mixer

2014-04-15 Thread buddy s
i want to improve my transmit audio using the above components.  has
anybody done this, and like to share any internal menu settings that need
to coincide with the hardware implementation.  thanks.

73 de,
w3bs, buddy spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] k3, heil pr781 mic, behringer 1204usb mixer

2014-04-15 Thread XE3/K5ENS
Are you going to be using ESSB?  If not I don't see much need for the
Behringer.  You only have a small amount of transmit bandwidth with the
stock filters.

Keith, XE3/K5ENS 



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Re: [Elecraft] k3, heil pr781 mic, behringer 1204usb mixer

2014-04-15 Thread Jim Brown

On 4/15/2014 7:04 AM, buddy s wrote:

i want to improve my transmit audio using the above components.  has
anybody done this, and like to share any internal menu settings that need
to coincide with the hardware implementation.


The K3 by itself, used with any decent mic, provides excellent audio. 
Heil mics are over-rated, over-advertised, and over-priced. The Yamaha 
CM-500 headset mic produces very clean audio plugged directly into the 
K3, and the K3 has a built in equalizer for both TX and RX. The 
headphones also sound great and are quite comfortable, even for long 
periods. The CM500 sells for about $60. Many of us are using it.


Behringer has earned a reputation in the audio world (where I worked for 
45 years until i retired) as a lousy company with poor quality products 
that were often designs stolen from other companies.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] k3, heil pr781 mic, behringer 1204usb mixer

2014-04-15 Thread barry whittemore
We use a Behringer 802 Mic Mixer at our station. No to help tune the audio (the 
radio does that fine) but my wife and i are on together often and we do not 
have to manually switch mics. It took a few mods to do it all, One is the 802 
has the 48 volt phantom voltage and we use PC headsets (CM-500) that need much 
less voltage. I just added a voltage divider to it internally and it works 
fine. The output of the 802 is higher than needed so i made my cable with a 
built in PAD, it was 10s of Db but i do not remember just what.  It also allows 
us to have inputs from the soundcard for voice keying in contests as the line 
is was lower than mic in. 

we also have a behringer headphone amp (4CH) and both work well. The Mic mixer 
does alow slight tuning for the differences between our voices but its not 
wildly adjustable. We do have a unique situation and it worked for us, I assume 
if we each had Heil prosets it would work as well, but i found mine 
uncomfortable and sold them.

as far as the internal settings, i do not have them in front of me but we 
tweaked them after setting the 802 buy getting on the air and getting comments 
from a friend.

settings that were better for me were not as good for my wife so it took some 
compromise.

at least i have a wife that says things like why dont we get a K3? and when 
are we putting up a tower?

Barry

NF1O


 

 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:04:06 -0500
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 Subject: [Elecraft] k3, heil pr781 mic, behringer 1204usb mixer
 
 i want to improve my transmit audio using the above components. has
 anybody done this, and like to share any internal menu settings that need
 to coincide with the hardware implementation. thanks.
 
 73 de,
 w3bs, buddy spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] k3, heil pr781 mic, behringer 1204usb mixer

2014-04-15 Thread David Bunte
Buddy -

I almost never operate phone, but as a retired broadcast announcer, I am
concerned about audio quality.  I set up my K3 with my CM500 with care...
and the few phone contacts I have had have resulted in some VERY positive
comments on my audio quality... including some who assumed that, as a
former broadcaster, I was using thousands of dollars worth of mic,
equalization, and processing hardware.  Other K3 users believe me when I
say it is just the K3 with the equalization carefully set to sound good.

It appears from the response you got from Barry, that he uses the mixer
primarily to facilitate two mics, and for phantom power.

I wonder what deficits you perceive in your transmit audio that make you
want to use a very expensive mic and an external mixer.

73 de Dave - K9FN


On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:32 PM, barry whittemore wb1...@hotmail.comwrote:

 We use a Behringer 802 Mic Mixer at our station. No to help tune the audio
 (the radio does that fine) but my wife and i are on together often and we
 do not have to manually switch mics. It took a few mods to do it all, One
 is the 802 has the 48 volt phantom voltage and we use PC headsets (CM-500)
 that need much less voltage. I just added a voltage divider to it
 internally and it works fine. The output of the 802 is higher than needed
 so i made my cable with a built in PAD, it was 10s of Db but i do not
 remember just what.  It also allows us to have inputs from the soundcard
 for voice keying in contests as the line is was lower than mic in.

 we also have a behringer headphone amp (4CH) and both work well. The Mic
 mixer does alow slight tuning for the differences between our voices but
 its not wildly adjustable. We do have a unique situation and it worked for
 us, I assume if we each had Heil prosets it would work as well, but i found
 mine uncomfortable and sold them.

 as far as the internal settings, i do not have them in front of me but we
 tweaked them after setting the 802 buy getting on the air and getting
 comments from a friend.

 settings that were better for me were not as good for my wife so it took
 some compromise.

 at least i have a wife that says things like why dont we get a K3? and
 when are we putting up a tower?

 Barry

 NF1O




  Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:04:06 -0500
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  Subject: [Elecraft] k3, heil pr781 mic, behringer 1204usb mixer
 
  i want to improve my transmit audio using the above components. has
  anybody done this, and like to share any internal menu settings that need
  to coincide with the hardware implementation. thanks.
 
  73 de,
  w3bs, buddy spiegel
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