[Elecraft] smaller caps?

2007-09-19 Thread Charles Harpole
I am serious:  What is the motivation driving smaller and smaller electronic 
products?


Possible answers:
smaller means using less stuff to make it and thus cheaper?
smaller is cuter?
smaller is a marketing feature?
smaller is more handy?

But when the hand phone, the caculator, the iPod, the mp3 player, the memory 
stick, the 706, etc etc are so small that they can not be easily be operated 
with normal human fingers, what is going on?
One of my students had her computer thumb memory thingy hanging from her 
ear lobe.


I got the business name card from my eye doctor printed in 6pt. type, way 
too small for his clients to read.


The greying of America and of ham radio indicates the need for bigger type, 
bigger radio buttons, etc., AND louder cel phones and louder everything, 
too.


I am puzzled so can I imagine soon a new marketing:  It's BIGGER!

Charles Harpole
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[Elecraft] smaller caps?

2007-09-19 Thread Charles Harpole
I am serious:  What is the motivation driving smaller and smaller electronic 
products?


Possible answers:
smaller means using less stuff to make it and thus cheaper?
smaller is cuter?
smaller is a marketing feature?
smaller is more handy?

But when the hand phone, the caculator, the iPod, the mp3 player, the memory 
stick, the 706, etc etc are so small that they can not be easily be operated 
with normal human fingers, what is going on?
One of my students had her computer thumb memory thingy hanging from her 
ear lobe.


I got the business name card from my eye doctor printed in 6pt. type, way 
too small for his clients to read.


The greying of America and of ham radio indicates the need for bigger type, 
bigger radio buttons, etc., AND louder cel phones and louder everything, 
too.


I am puzzled so can I imagine soon a new marketing:  It's BIGGER!

Charles Harpole
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Re: [Elecraft] smaller caps?

2007-09-19 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 9/19/07 8:12:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 What is the motivation driving smaller and smaller electronic 
 products?
 
 smaller means using less stuff to make it and thus cheaper?

Yep. Also less cost to pack, to ship, and to store. 

Look at the cost of packing, shipping, and storing, say, a DX-100 and K2/100. 
That all comes out in the price.
 
 But when the hand phone, the caculator, the iPod, the mp3 player, the memory 
 
 stick, the 706, etc etc are so small that they can not be easily be operated 
 
 with normal human fingers, what is going on?

Depends what you mean by normal. And people buy the things.

 One of my students had her computer thumb memory thingy hanging from her 
 ear lobe.
 

I remember carrying punched card decks, reels of computer tape (magnetic and 
paper) and those multiplatter removable disks that went into drives the size 
of a washing machine. No thanks.
 
 The greying of America and of ham radio indicates the need for bigger type, 
 bigger radio buttons, etc., AND louder cel phones and louder everything, 
 too.
 

How much more are you willing to pay for it?

73 de Jim, N2EY


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Re: [Elecraft] smaller caps?

2007-09-19 Thread AJSOENKE
I can think a few reasons, in addition to the aforementioned reduction in  
inventory costs and shipping charges.
 
It makes for smaller PCB assemblies - less copper/solder, etc. smaller  
packaging means less resources. If the foundries don't need to produce huge  
volumes of plastics, ceramics and other materials, then they may be able to  
improve 
the purity and quality of the materials also. It leads more toward throw  
away modules which can fit in you're recyclers bin.  If all I had was one  
radio, 
I wouldn't care too much how big it is but wouldn't expect a truck load  of 
features either, like we get now. With three rigs on the desk, it's nice  they 
all fit on it.
 
So there is a strong 'green' incentive from many angles. The average refuse  
company in CA now collects a $20-$35 fee for that old monitor. Thank goodness  
for the flat screens!  I remember the first transistor radio I had - a  
Regency. Cost $65 in 1956. Ge transistors too, and it ate those 22v mercury  
stack 
batteries for a snack. But what a dream to carry around while delivering  
papers after school. (I think I needed so many batteries from falling asleep at 
 
night listening to it.) 
 
So the tiny parts make it harder to kit build - wait til it comes  in fully 
integrated VLSI. That's already revolutionized the PC business. I  see the 
entire radio in a couple chips sooner than you can imagine. The ONLY  reason 
its 
not there now is the lack of volume in those markets. Case in point  is the 
cellphone or maybe the pda is a better example - with video graphics,  it's a 
better computer than we had 15 years ago, camera, music all day, actually  more 
music in one of those than my entire collection of 40 years. It goes on and  
on. If we have a reason for 20 or 30 million people to be hams - the K4 will  
probably fit in the palm of your hand.
 
PS I love to build kits and really miss Heath. I'm buying up as many QRP  and 
other kits as I can to fill the future void. After that  I guess we'll  just 
need to design some.
 
Al WA6VNN



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Re: [Elecraft] smaller caps?

2007-09-19 Thread Rick Dettinger




 Look at the cost of packing, shipping, and storing, say, a DX-100 and
K2/100.
 That all comes out in the price.
 Depends what you mean by normal. And people buy the things.

 73 de Jim, N2EY
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Also, we didn't have to carry our DX-100's into the computer room to update
the software.

73
Rick Dettinger  K7MW


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