Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
hello all, You can go to ARRL.org web site and download lists of nets by area, freq., mode, etc. 73, Stuart K5KVH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
I had some health and welfare traffic I wanted to get onto NTS last week. I have never operated on a traffic net, and the instructions I found online for checking into a CW NTS net were complicated and I didn't feel confident about it. I e-mailed the traffic to another ham who was active on a voice NTS net and got the traffic in that way. My only rig is a K1 and I was looking forward to submitting some traffic via CW, but I'll need to practice net procedure/message formatting in advance. 73, Jason AK7V ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
Hi Jason and all Elecrafters, I've been watching the thread regarding CW traffic nets. My suggestion is to get a copy of the Net Directory from ARRL at your next hamfest or order one directly from Newington. It lists all nets, both traffic and casual nets, by frequency, function and scheduled times. Then just dial them up and listen to the proceedings. The directory also includes a good description of the NTS, net procedures and message format. There are any number of training nets (slow speed generally) as well as section and region nets. You will hear lots of short cuts on some of the nets while others follow a strict, military style. Some things you will hear may be confusing at first. For instance the net control may call two stations sequentially then tell them U4 4RN2, which translated means up four kilohertz and pass two messages for the fourth region. You will also need copies of the ARRL numbered Radiograms and the listing of Q signals for net use. All of this info is included in the Net Directory as well as other ARRL publications like the pink sheet, Operating An Amateur Radio Station, the ARRL Handbook, Public Service Communications as well as others. Listen a little and then jump in and get your feet wet when you feel a little more comfortable. You will be more than welcome, believe me. Pat Haynes, K4BEH ORS, EC Building K2 #5061 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
Here is web page, just watch the steps it is straight forward and most NCS like QMN, etc. will slow down and go at your speed... http://www.qsl.net/w8ihx/procedur.html - Original Message - From: Jason Artz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops I had some health and welfare traffic I wanted to get onto NTS last week. I have never operated on a traffic net, and the instructions I found online for checking into a CW NTS net were complicated and I didn't feel confident about it. I e-mailed the traffic to another ham who was active on a voice NTS net and got the traffic in that way. My only rig is a K1 and I was looking forward to submitting some traffic via CW, but I'll need to practice net procedure/message formatting in advance. 73, Jason AK7V ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
There are still a few traffic nets out there. I worked with one for a few years but have let my skills erode lately due to other endeavors. Training does take time and the skills need to be honed at least weekly if not more often. During last year's spate of hurricanes through Florida I worked a couple of ops passing HW traffic out of the area. It is more difficult to insert the messages into the NTS than to receive the traffic due to the cyclic nature of NTS. NREN wants to handle NTS format radiograms on a more regular basis when needed and pass them into section and region NTS nets when possible. The site listed by Ron earlier today and by Conard on the Glowbug list has all of the details. CW is efficient but proficiency is required. Even voice handling of traffic takes training and practice to do correctly and efficiently. Kevin. KD5ONS On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:55:37 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, KE6US wrote: Does NREN have any statistics about the number of messages they have been able to handle concerning Hurricane Katrina? - You might ask NREN. My sense is that they're trying to stimulate interest in using CW. Clearly, it is not a major traffic mode today. It requires dedication and training to be ready to handle traffic. At one time I ran CW nets for the US Army and I'm a commercial radiotelegraph licensee, but I can tell you I'm scrambling when I try follow proper procedure on a directed net today. My hat's off to any casual CW ops who stumble into a traffic net and stick it out. The training program NREN is trying to set up sounds great. After all these years, I'll in as a student myself if I can schedule the hours free (I work odd hours). It's been 30 years since I participated in a CW traffic net. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
Same here. I used to run a lot of CW traffic on ham bands and MARS when I worked at K2USA. Three of us opened it a few days after the AK Earthquake in Mar '64. We probably ran half our traffic on CW at the time. I hear all kinds of optimistic figures about CW today, but frankly the throughput was about the same on SSB/AM and CW with experienced operators at both ends. On MARS frequencies, we had a couple of Army radio ops we borrowed from another outfit on a semi-permanent basis. They ran traffic on the MATN net at 50-55wpm, but it didn't make that much difference at the end of the month. I had the mandatory records to show it. OK, thanks for the info. I'll contact Jim, but it looks like another dead end as far as finding an actual use of CW during Hurricane Katrina. Time to stick a fork in it and move on. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 6:56 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops Eric, KE6US wrote: Does NREN have any statistics about the number of messages they have been able to handle concerning Hurricane Katrina? - You might ask NREN. My sense is that they're trying to stimulate interest in using CW. Clearly, it is not a major traffic mode today. It requires dedication and training to be ready to handle traffic. At one time I ran CW nets for the US Army and I'm a commercial radiotelegraph licensee, but I can tell you I'm scrambling when I try follow proper procedure on a directed net today. My hat's off to any casual CW ops who stumble into a traffic net and stick it out. The training program NREN is trying to set up sounds great. After all these years, I'll in as a student myself if I can schedule the hours free (I work odd hours). It's been 30 years since I participated in a CW traffic net. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
Eric, KE6US wrote: Does NREN have any statistics about the number of messages they have been able to handle concerning Hurricane Katrina? - You might ask NREN. My sense is that they're trying to stimulate interest in using CW. Clearly, it is not a major traffic mode today. It requires dedication and training to be ready to handle traffic. At one time I ran CW nets for the US Army and I'm a commercial radiotelegraph licensee, but I can tell you I'm scrambling when I try follow proper procedure on a directed net today. My hat's off to any casual CW ops who stumble into a traffic net and stick it out. The training program NREN is trying to set up sounds great. After all these years, I'll in as a student myself if I can schedule the hours free (I work odd hours). It's been 30 years since I participated in a CW traffic net. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
I don't want to start up the CW vs SSB thread again either. But I have spent at least an hour every day on google and Alta Vista since Katrina hit searching for ANY evidence that hams used CW for Katrina traffic and I'm coming up blank. I went to the NREN web site and their newsletter hasn't been posted for a year. I went to their Announcements page and they listed several dozen SSB nets covering the Gulf States, but not a single CW net. Does NREN have any statistics about the number of messages they have been able to handle concerning Hurricane Katrina? Has anyone on here handled any Katrina traffic with CW? I talked to everyone I could find in emergency communications at the SW ARRL Convention here in Riverside this weekend. That included two clubs that are very active in their respective cities, including receiving grants for equipment. None of their specially designed emergency response trailers have HF capability and none of them have ever used CW in a real or simulated emergency. VHF, UHF, FM, packet, even ATV aboard police helicopters tied into the FLIR camera, but no CW. Would someone please tell me what is going on with CW in emergency communications. I seem to be the only one who can't see any evidence of it being used. I'm going to write Jim Wades as well. Maybe he can give me a lead. I would dearly like to write some articles showing CW's role in emergency communication, but its tough without any facts to go on. Offline answers would be great. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:20 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops I hope this isn't too far afield, but I'll take the chance in order for the CW ops here looking for a new challenge to hear about it. I do NOT want to start a long thread about the value of CW and emergency nets. I DO want to pass along some information about a gang who isn't just talking, but who are doing something about it: the gang at the National Emergency Radio Network (NREN). Jim Wades at NREN is asking for more participation from CW ops who want to get involved, up close and personal. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
Thank you Ron!!! My note is in the mail. VY 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:19:35 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this isn't too far afield, but I'll take the chance in order for the CW ops here looking for a new challenge to hear about it. ... (ancillary detail elided) Join by sending a simple e-mail to the NREN General Manage at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the subject line, simply state Join NREN to be added to the list --- You can learn more about NREN at their website: http://68.43.101.244:81/nren/ 73, Ron AC7AC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.22/98 - Release Date: 9/12/2005 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops
Hi Group, I have read so many message about emergency net in US. I am interested in knowing whether K2 has been greatly used in emergency communication. Can I have your advice? 73 Johnny Siu VR2XMC builder of s/n 1146, 4225, 4165 ... - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] An Opportunity for CW Ops Eric, KE6US wrote: Does NREN have any statistics about the number of messages they have been able to handle concerning Hurricane Katrina? - You might ask NREN. My sense is that they're trying to stimulate interest in using CW. Clearly, it is not a major traffic mode today. It requires dedication and training to be ready to handle traffic. At one time I ran CW nets for the US Army and I'm a commercial radiotelegraph licensee, but I can tell you I'm scrambling when I try follow proper procedure on a directed net today. My hat's off to any casual CW ops who stumble into a traffic net and stick it out. The training program NREN is trying to set up sounds great. After all these years, I'll in as a student myself if I can schedule the hours free (I work odd hours). It's been 30 years since I participated in a CW traffic net. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
