Re: [Elecraft] Guidance Please: XG3 Signal Source Sending CW String

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Jeff, 

You only need to send the "PF,01,01" one time.  That command is used to set
the programmable function of the PF 1 key.   So if you want to have the PF1
key go back to a sweep function, use PF,01,00;  Also, you can simply set the
WPM one time using the WP,nn; command.   Unfortunately the XG3 hasn't enough
non-volatile memory for another CW memory. 

Kind regards, 

Paul



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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance Please: XG3 Signal Source Sending CW String

[Jeff Maass K8ND]

Thanks Don!

Got some variants that work in several of the macros, including:

   WM,^3[30TEST_TEST_TEST_K8ND_K8ND_K8ND_TEST$10#;PF,01,01;

The underscore meta-character substitution required for space was a
confuser, as was the initial condition when starting.

73,  Jeff K8ND

Jeff,

 

Go back to something more simplistic - just set the XG3 for normal 
signal generator operation.  Do you hear the signal?  If not, check with
XG3 Utility to see what frequency the XG3 is set to produce.


Once that has been verified, try the message - you should hear it at 
that same frequency unless you have something in you coding that is 
changing the frequency.

There is no more, but try with a more simplistic sequence - just the 
text (no power level changes, etc.) and see if that works for you. Once 
you have that working, try adding other things one at a time until you 
have what you want.
73, Don W3FPR

 

On 10/10/2015 7:46 PM, Jeff Maass K8ND wrote:

> G'day Don:

> 

> The XG3 was on '30' to start, with the LED on solid.

> 

> When I pushed/held the 'PF1' button to start the sequence, the '30' LED

> began to blink and continued blinking while the sequence ran.

> 

> Is there more?

> 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance Please: XG3 Signal Source Sending CW String

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeff,

What band LED is illuminated on the XG3?  That message sequence you 
specified does not set the band, so you will have to set the XG3 output 
manually to whichever band/frequency the XG3 is set for.
It works, I have used similar sequences to send CW to a K3 for hamfest 
demos.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/10/2015 7:19 PM, Jeff Maass K8ND wrote:

I have been unsuccessful in convincing my XG3 to send CW strings.

The basic signal generator functions of the XG3 are working, both with and
without the XG3 utility connected. It generates signal carrier at all
requested frequencies at all available power levels. This XG3 has firmware
revision 1.16 installed. I am running it with the XG3 Utility Revision
1.13.6.6, and the utility and the XG3 are communicating. The manual I have
is Revision D1 (Feb 20,2013).

I want to use it with my SDRs and CW Skimmer to test the receivers and
splitters, so I'd like to have it send something like "TEST TEST TEST K8ND
K8ND K8ND TEST" on demand on a selected band/frequency. For test, I had
selected 10.120 as my test frequency, and connected the output of the XG3 to
my K3 antenna jack. I set the K3 to 10.120 MHz.

Page 13 of the D1 and D2 manuals provides examples of programming the XG3
with the PC utility. For test, I tried to set up the sample beacon that is
the first example, as shown below:

  Use the XG3 Utility's Command Tester (far right tab) to enter these
commands:

  WM,^0de_w1aw:10^1:10^2:10*$60#;

  Changes the level to 0 dBm, then sends 'de w1aw', sends carrier at 0
dBm for 10 seconds, then

  changes the level to -33 dBm, sends carrier for 10 seconds, changes
level to -73 dBm, sends carrier for 10

  seconds, sends SK, pauses silent for 60 seconds and repeats
indefinitely.



As described above, I typed the string ("WM,^de...) into the XG3 command box
on the 'Command Tester' tab.


I then entered the string to enable the use of the PF1 button to initiate
the message function, as shown below:

  Set up the PF1 key for Morse memory sending:

  PF,01,01; configure PF1 to send Morse memory.

  To play the memory, either hold down the Band+/PF1 key or send S,01;
over the serial port.



When I pressed and held the PF1 key, 1) the '30' LED began to blink; 2) the
level changed on the XG3 from one to another to another as described in the
command documentation above, and 3) continues forever. HOWEVER, there is no
output of CW or carrier to the radio. I watched the P3 display carefully for
any sign of the output keying, but No Joy anywhere near 10.120 MHz. The LEDs
on the XG3 show that the programmed string is at least running, changing the
output levels periodically.




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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance Please: XG3 Signal Source Sending CW String

[Jeff Maass K8ND]

G'day Don:

 

The XG3 was on '30' to stat, with the LED on solid. 

 

When I pushed/held the 'PF1' button to start the sequence, the '30' LED
began to blink and continued blinking while the sequence ran.

 

Is there more?

 

73, Jeff  K8ND

 

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Jeff,

 

What band LED is illuminated on the XG3?  That message sequence you 

specified does not set the band, so you will have to set the XG3 output 

manually to whichever band/frequency the XG3 is set for.

It works, I have used similar sequences to send CW to a K3 for hamfest 

demos.

 

73,

Don W3FPR

 

 

From: Jeff Maass K8ND [mailto:jma...@k8nd.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 7:20 PM
To: Elecraft Mailing List (elecraft@mailman.qth.net)

Subject: Guidance Please: XG3 Signal Source Sending CW String

 

I have been unsuccessful in convincing my XG3 to send CW strings. 

The basic signal generator functions of the XG3 are working, both with and
without the XG3 utility connected. It generates signal carrier at all
requested frequencies at all available power levels. This XG3 has firmware
revision 1.16 installed. I am running it with the XG3 Utility Revision
1.13.6.6, and the utility and the XG3 are communicating. The manual I have
is Revision D1 (Feb 20,2013).

I want to use it with my SDRs and CW Skimmer to test the receivers and
splitters, so I'd like to have it send something like "TEST TEST TEST K8ND
K8ND K8ND TEST" on demand on a selected band/frequency. For test, I had
selected 10.120 as my test frequency, and connected the output of the XG3 to
my K3 antenna jack. I set the K3 to 10.120 MHz.

Page 13 of the D1 and D2 manuals provides examples of programming the XG3
with the PC utility. For test, I tried to set up the sample beacon that is
the first example, as shown below: 

 Use the XG3 Utility's Command Tester (far right tab) to enter these
commands:

 WM,^0de_w1aw:10^1:10^2:10*$60#;

 Changes the level to 0 dBm, then sends 'de w1aw', sends carrier at 0
dBm for 10 seconds, then

 changes the level to -33 dBm, sends carrier for 10 seconds, changes
level to -73 dBm, sends carrier for 10

 seconds, sends SK, pauses silent for 60 seconds and repeats
indefinitely.

As described above, I typed the string ("WM,^de...) into the XG3 command box
on the 'Command Tester' tab.


I then entered the string to enable the use of the PF1 button to initiate
the message function, as shown below:

 Set up the PF1 key for Morse memory sending: 

 PF,01,01; configure PF1 to send Morse memory.

 To play the memory, either hold down the Band+/PF1 key or send S,01;
over the serial port.

When I pressed and held the PF1 key, 1) the '30' LED began to blink; 2) the
level changed on the XG3 from one to another to another as described in the
command documentation above, and 3) continues forever. HOWEVER, there is no
output of CW or carrier to the radio. I watched the P3 display carefully for
any sign of the output keying, but No Joy anywhere near 10.120 MHz. The LEDs
on the XG3 show that the programmed string is at least running, changing the
output levels periodically.

I've tried it with the other example strings, but still No Joy. I am clearly
doing something wrong.

Can someone put me on the correct path?

73,  Jeff  K8ND

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance Please: XG3 Signal Source Sending CW String

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeff,

Go back to something more simplistic - just set the XG3 for normal 
signal generator operation.  Do you hear the signal?  If not, check with 
XG3 Utility to see what frequency the XG3 is set to produce.


Once that has been verified, try the message - you should hear it at 
that same frequency unless you have something in you coding that is 
changing the frequency.


There is no more, but try with a more simplistic sequence - just the 
text (no power level changes, etc.) and see if that works for you. Once 
you have that working, try adding other things one at a time until you 
have what you want.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/10/2015 7:46 PM, Jeff Maass K8ND wrote:

G'day Don:

The XG3 was on '30' to stat, with the LED on solid.

When I pushed/held the 'PF1' button to start the sequence, the '30' LED
began to blink and continued blinking while the sequence ran.

Is there more?



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RE: [Elecraft] Guidance

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I'll second the vote by Geoff and the others that 40 meters is an excellent
band to start with. It almost always has some activity. It's high enough in
frequency to allow decent distance on daytime contacts so you can usually
find someone to have a QSO with, and high enough in frequency that you'll
experience DX at night when conditions are right with most common antennas.
It's neither the most stable local ragchew band or the easiest DX band. But
it does offer a mix for the beginner with a modest amount of experience and
antenna! After half a century (plus) on the HF bands, were I limited to one
band, 40 would be my first choice.  

You'll enjoy the K3. I haven't been able to operate one from my home QTH
(yet) but I sure demo'd one many, many times at the SeaPac Hamfest. It's a
rig that will let you explore very simple CW or SSB operation with a minimum
of experience, yet it's features and operational capabilities will exceed
your expectations for many years to come.

Picture learning to drive in a special Ferrari - one that lets you operate
it like a golf cart while you learn the basics but which will then behave
like a world-class race car when you have the experience to put the pedal
to the metal! The K3 is that for the Amateur Radio community, except you
don't need to be a millionaire to own one! 

Ron AC7AC 


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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy]

At this point in the solar cycle 40m if you have space for an antenna. If 
you want to work Europeans on CW stay away from 7040 kHz plus minus which 
more often than not is covered by RTTY and other forms of QRM over here. 
7033 kHz down is fine.


Good luck and welcome aboard!

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Frank J. MacDonell  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I got my Technician license in February and I am learning CW. I have built 
a dipole and ordered a K3. What advice do you guys have for initial band 
use and getting feet wet in the Ham Universe? Thanks!



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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

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Frank J. MacDonell wrote:
 I got my Technician license in February and I am learning CW. I have
 built a dipole and ordered a K3. What advice do you guys have for
 initial band use and getting feet wet in the Ham Universe? Thanks!

Congratulations Frank.

First, until you pass the general class theory exam you are going to be
limited to CW only and only in the general class sections of the bands
on 80, 40, 15, and 10 meters. On 10 meters you also get voice privi's
from 28,300-28,500.

Second, while you're waiting for the K3 to arrive get cracking on the
general theory test. When you pass that you get all the HF bands and modes.

Here's a link to the ARRL Ham Bands chart.

http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/wt04-140/Hambands3_color.pdf

Good luck.

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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[Robert Tellefsen]

I would suggest you look at 40m.
During this low part of the sunspot cycle,
you are more likely to find QSOs on 40 than on any other 
band, day or night.
Welcome to ham radio, Frank.
Hope to run into you on the air one day.
73, Bob N6WG

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From: Frank J. MacDonell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:43 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Guidance


 I got my Technician license in February and I am learning CW. I have 
 built a dipole and ordered a K3. What advice do you guys have for 
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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[Stephen W. Kercel]

Frank:

40 meters is by far the least difficult place to start.

73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK



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I got my Technician license in February and I am learning CW. I have 
built a dipole and ordered a K3. What advice do you guys have for 
initial band use and getting feet wet in the Ham Universe? Thanks!

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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[Franki ON5ZO]

At 03:43 PM 6/19/2007, Frank J. MacDonell wrote:
I got my Technician license in February and I am learning CW. I have built 
a dipole and ordered a K3. What advice do you guys have for initial band 
use and getting feet wet in the Ham Universe? Thanks!


I think that 30m works great and is more stable when it comes to working DX. 
40m is great for nighttime DX but not always good, while I seem to be 
working more DX on 30m (rotary dipole at 10m high versus 40m GP). More 
being not in absolute QSO numbers but in chances to have propagation.


As for CW it's simple: you can only learn to do and enjoy it by making 
contacts. Don't worry if those first QSO's are a bit messy. We all had to 
get passed that point and considerate CW operators will adapt to make you 
feel comfortable.


Good luck and have a ball!
73 de Franki ON5ZO 


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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[Matthew Murphy Palmer]

I agree with using 40m 

Especially since they moved the 'novice' portion of the band down quite a 
bit it is possible to work some slow speed around 7040-7050 now (where the 
QRP action is) instead of hanging out above 7100 dodging shortwave stations 
es hoping someone will take pity es come work you. Having been licensed 
within the past 2years when the sun has been sleeping es primarily only 
working CW, 40m is where I get most of my fix. 


Matt
KD8DAO 




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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[G3SJJ]

1 - Cancel the K3, buy  K1.  You do not need a K3 at this stage.
2 - Erect a simple doublet to cover the 4 bands.
3 - Make some contacts and decide then which band you like, based on 
experience gained.


I have always had an interest in photography, but if I were starting out 
now I would not buy a top of the range Nikon. Likewise if I had just 
taken my driving test I would not expect to buy a Maseratti, Ferrari, 
Bentley etc.


Chris Burbanks G3SJJ




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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[Kenneth E. Harker]

On Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 03:43:31PM -0400, Frank J. MacDonell wrote:
 I got my Technician license in February and I am learning CW. I have 
 built a dipole and ordered a K3. What advice do you guys have for 
 initial band use and getting feet wet in the Ham Universe? Thanks!

Frank,

 Welcome to ham radio!  You did not mention which band your antenna is 
cut for - if it is 20 meters or 40 meters, those are probably good places to
start on HF at this point in the solar cycle.  In general, 20 meters will be 
best during the daylight and 40 meters will be in the best shape during 
darkness.  Conditions are overall better in the winter than the summer.

 I would resist the temptation to go QRP at first.  Use all 100 watts and
enjoy making QSOs.  If, later on, you feel confident and want to give QRP a
try, then go for it.

 I would also suggest trying out six meters with your K3 this summer.  As 
a technician, you already have the operating privileges, and a dipole or other 
antenna for six meters is pretty small and easy to put up.  The operating
is similar to what you find on HF - people call CQ, exchange signal reports,
etc.  Summer is Eskip season.  On average two days out of three in June
(for example) will have Eskip propagation to someplace from your QTH,
more likely in the evening than other times of day.  When the band opens
up and you suddenly hear dozens or hundreds of stations from 1200 miles away
in your headphones, it can be a lot of fun!

 Definitely find a place to operate Field Day this weekend.

-- 
Kenneth E. Harker WM5R
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Re: [Elecraft] Guidance

[N2EY]

In a message dated 6/19/07 3:45:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I got my Technician license in February and I am learning CW. 

Congrats and welcome!

I have 
 
 built a dipole and ordered a K3. 

A dipole for what band?

What advice do you guys have for 
 
 initial band use and getting feet wet in the Ham Universe? Thanks!
 

I think the best places to start are 80 and 40 CW.  At this point in the 
sunspot cycle, 80 is best at night and 40 during all but the late-night hours. 
80 
CW is relatively uncrowded and more stable than the higher bands. 

What kind of space do you have for the dipole?

73 de Jim, N2EY


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