RE: [Elecraft] K3 Topics
I enjoy all the chatter on this list. The messages I do not care about, I do not read in their entirety. I for one, do not want this list censored. Bob Serwy - N9RS Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Agsten Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Topics This list is quickly becoming somewhat of a waste of time to read. There are those who would like to redesign the K3 or critique various aspects of it, such as distortion or keying, to those who would like it personalized for themselves. It seems like Elecraft gives an inch and then many want to take a mile. I have to wonder if many of these folks ever just operate their K3? It's a fine radio just as it is. Why not just get on the air and enjoy it? That's what I'm going to do rather than spend time looking at each post. Posts about things like xvtr operation or various settings are fine, but all of the numbers from various "tests" might be best discussed directly rather than take up lotrs of space on here. 73, Dave N8AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Topics
i agree --- it should be each individuals option to hit delete key. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Bob Serwy Sent: Mon 9/8/2008 10:07 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Topics I enjoy all the chatter on this list. The messages I do not care about, I do not read in their entirety. I for one, do not want this list censored. Bob Serwy - N9RS Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Agsten Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Topics This list is quickly becoming somewhat of a waste of time to read. There are those who would like to redesign the K3 or critique various aspects of it, such as distortion or keying, to those who would like it personalized for themselves. It seems like Elecraft gives an inch and then many want to take a mile. I have to wonder if many of these folks ever just operate their K3? It's a fine radio just as it is. Why not just get on the air and enjoy it? That's what I'm going to do rather than spend time looking at each post. Posts about things like xvtr operation or various settings are fine, but all of the numbers from various "tests" might be best discussed directly rather than take up lotrs of space on here. 73, Dave N8AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain information that is proprietary, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender by return email and delete the original message. Please note, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The organization accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. = ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics
I quite prefer all the comments about people trying to improve the distortion numbers as it is quite unusually high out the line out port. Some people have put quite a bit of time into making measurements and even coming up with possible solutions. If people weren't doing this the K3 wouldn't be the radio it is today. These messages are what make Elecraft Elecraft. Keep it coming! On Mon, 2008-09-08 at 18:58 -0700, Dave Agsten wrote: > This list is quickly becoming somewhat of a waste of time to read. There are > those who would like to redesign the K3 or critique various aspects of it, > such as distortion or keying, to those who would like it personalized for > themselves. It seems like Elecraft gives an inch and then many want to take a > mile. I have to wonder if many of these folks ever just operate their K3? > It's a fine radio just as it is. Why not just get on the air and enjoy it? > That's what I'm going to do rather than spend time looking at each post. > Posts about things like xvtr operation or various settings are fine, but all > of the numbers from various "tests" might be best discussed directly rather > than take up lotrs of space on here. > > 73, > Dave N8AG > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics
You might also like reading via Nabble, on the web. http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-f365791.html Or visit that page and click on "Forum Feeds" at the bottom and drag the "Topics" one to your Live Bookmarks in Firefox 3 or Internet Explorer 7 and get one-click access to the list of active topics. Leigh/WA5ZNU I get the daily digest. I am switching to individual posts because I find myself reading fewer posts. The ones I skip are: ... I do not mind skipping these posts, but the risk of missing something interesting grows as the volume of uninteresting things grows. Monty, K2DLJ K3 #699 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics
During my short time with the list (K2 5982 / K3 766) it has been a technical list. These folks are not your average hams. They will dig into a piece of equipment and understand what makes it tick. It is an amazing think tank of information that I enjoy reading everyday. That being said, I do have separate folders for K3, K2, Elecraft (each with a Keepers sub folder). All Elecraft email ends up in one of those folders. I use Thunderbird, and it has a search function in the corner much like google. I plug in a keyword in the subject line of a thread that I want to read, and boom. I have all the emails, sorted by date. And only that thread. I may read some of it, all of it, or throw the whole thing away (in my case, anything about microphones or SSB). I clear the search function, all of the threads are back. But that is just me. And that is what is so special about this list. Lots of great info, and a delete key too. What more can you ask for? Ok, they got the Mojo too! David Wilburn K4DGW Monty Shultes wrote: I get the daily digest. I am switching to individual posts because I find myself reading fewer posts. The ones I skip are: a) Ones that should go to Elecraft Support/Sales/Parts b) Ones that relate to a topic fully covered in the manual c) Ones that are covered on the Elecraft website d) Details of measurements. I would like to have access to these via the web e) Ones that are primarily a discussion of third party equipment/software. Websites for such are usually very good. I do not mind skipping these posts, but the risk of missing something interesting grows as the volume of uninteresting things grows. Monty, K2DLJ K3 #699 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics is bad subject line
Charles, Sorry, but engineers and good, clear, concise writing do not typically run together. Way back in engineering school, I had a 'Western Civilization" class professor who was bold enough to tell his sophomore class of EE students that *his* class was the most important in the curriculum. That statement generated a lot of snickers and side comments. Then over my years of real world engineering experience, I found that writing and a knowledge of history were indeed the major required assets of any good engineer - one must be able to communicate effectively with non-engineering types. Unfortunately, that fact is usually learned "too little, too late" and only in the 'school of hard knocks'. 73, Don W3FPR Charles Harpole wrote: ... Until the engineers among us learn to use the English language, the subject lines now in use are mostly useless. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics is bad subject line
Very well said, Don. As a senior technical writer/editor with a solid hardware engineering background, I can attest to the fact that engineers' writing ranges all the way from crystal-clear, perfectly composed expositive prose, to the utterly incomprehensible. I remember getting a sentence in a draft paper from an engineer once that literally could not be read in one breath, try as we might to fill our lungs with air to the max before starting and reading as fast as we could. :-) Very entertaining, but ultimately futile. That's why people like me have jobs -- except I don't, at the moment. RIFfed in June (too old, too expensive), still on "vacation". :-) Bill W5WVO - Original Message - From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Charles Harpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Elecraft Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics is bad subject line > Charles, > > Sorry, but engineers and good, clear, concise writing do not typically > run together. > Way back in engineering school, I had a 'Western Civilization" class > professor who was bold enough to tell his sophomore class of EE students > that *his* class was the most important in the curriculum. That > statement generated a lot of snickers and side comments. Then over my > years of real world engineering experience, I found that writing and a > knowledge of history were indeed the major required assets of any good > engineer - one must be able to communicate effectively with > non-engineering types. > Unfortunately, that fact is usually learned "too little, too late" and > only in the 'school of hard knocks'. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Charles Harpole wrote: > > ... Until the engineers among us learn to use > > > > the English language, the subject lines now in use are mostly useless. > > > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
