RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-12 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The K3's rear-panel RS-232 connector is female. A M-F serial cable works
fine to extend a USB to Serial adapter.

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:13 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port
adapter

Hi Dick,

I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s. 
However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232 
connector is male.  I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that 
it is also male.  So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable.

I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to 
determine.

I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this.

John, W2GW


- Original Message - 
From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'John Reiser' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port 
adapter


I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a
 serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together.  You
 may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of 
 the
 K3 as both connectors have nuts.

 You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it 
 at
 the same time you order your next K3 option...

 73 de Dick, K6KR


 


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-11 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I can't make promises, but it has a very good chance of working well.
Keyspan has a pretty good reputation.  I have one here that I'm going to
test with a couple of computers.

My experience has been that all USB adapters will work with some computers,
and no USB adapters will work with all computers.  My experience with serial
ports is that they tend to be much more robust.  

I'm continuing to make improvements in USB to Serial Adapter error recovery
which help with some marginal cases. 

I'll send another note after I've done my testing with a Sony Vaio laptop I
have here as well as my desktop system. 

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

Hello,

Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my Keyspan USB-to-serial-port
adapter will be suitable for downloading the K3 firmware updates?

Thanks and 73,

John, W2GW

(2nd run K3 - May 29th) 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-11 Thread Vic K2VCO

John Reiser wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my Keyspan
USB-to-serial-port adapter will be suitable for downloading the K3
firmware updates?


Not definitively, unless you can find someone with the identical 
computer and operating system to try it!


However, Keyspan has a very good reputation and chances are the answer 
will be yes. It depends more on your computer than anything else. 
There's been lots of work done on the K3 Utility to make it compatible 
with all kinds of USB/Serial adapters, OS's, etc.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-11 Thread Dick Dievendorff
John, I just loaded my K3's firmware successfully with a Keyspan USA-19H USB
Serial Adapter.  I used a Sony Vaio VGN-FZ150E laptop with Windows Vista.  I
first installed device drivers from the Keyspan web site.

However the Keyspan USA-19H I have here has a 3' cable, and the fasteners on
the DB-9 connector are nuts, so it won't mate with the back of the K3,
which also has nuts.  You'll need a M-F serial cable with screw connectors
on each end. 

This fastener gender issue is pretty common with USB adapters; the only one
I've seen that mates correctly (has screws on the DB-9 end) is the KUSB sold
by Elecraft.  There may be others, I just haven't seen them.  For me a 6'
serial extension cord is not an issue at all, so it doesn't matter that much
to me.  Your preferences may vary...

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:04 PM
To: 'John Reiser'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port
adapter

I can't make promises, but it has a very good chance of working well.
Keyspan has a pretty good reputation.  I have one here that I'm going to
test with a couple of computers.

My experience has been that all USB adapters will work with some computers,
and no USB adapters will work with all computers.  My experience with serial
ports is that they tend to be much more robust.  

I'm continuing to make improvements in USB to Serial Adapter error recovery
which help with some marginal cases. 

I'll send another note after I've done my testing with a Sony Vaio laptop I
have here as well as my desktop system. 

Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Reiser
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

Hello,

Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my Keyspan USB-to-serial-port
adapter will be suitable for downloading the K3 firmware updates?

Thanks and 73,

John, W2GW

(2nd run K3 - May 29th) 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-11 Thread David Fleming
Hi John,

As Dick and Vic have said, there are no guarantees.
But your chances are very good that the Keyspan will
work fine for you. I'm using the USA-19H and I've had
no problems with it loading the firmware updates using
a Shuttle PC running Windows XP. I also use it on my
four different Apple Macs without problems.

David, W4SMT

--- John Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Can anyone tell me definitively whether or not my
 Keyspan USB-to-serial-port adapter will be suitable
 for downloading the K3 firmware updates?
 
 Thanks and 73,
 
 John, W2GW
 
 (2nd run K3 - May 29th) 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-11 Thread John Reiser

Hi Dick,

I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s. 
However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232 
connector is male.  I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that 
it is also male.  So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable.


I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to 
determine.


I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this.

John, W2GW


- Original Message - 
From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'John Reiser' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port 
adapter




I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a
serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together.  You
may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of 
the

K3 as both connectors have nuts.

You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it 
at

the same time you order your next K3 option...

73 de Dick, K6KR






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Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-11 Thread David Fleming
John,

The RS-232 connector on the K3 is -female- .. Your m/f
cable will work FB.

David, W4SMT

--- John Reiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Dick,
 
 I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has
 screws on both DB-9s. 
 However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel
 that the RS232 
 connector is male.  I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS
 adapter and found that 
 it is also male.  So to make it work I would need a
 f-f serial cable.
 
 I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly
 what I was trying to 
 determine.
 
 I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this.
 
 John, W2GW
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'John Reiser' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan
 USB to serial port 
 adapter
 
 
 I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan,
 as long as you have a
  serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the
 connectors together.  You
  may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9
 directly into the back of 
  the
  K3 as both connectors have nuts.
 
  You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB
 if you feel you need it 
  at
  the same time you order your next K3 option...
 
  73 de Dick, K6KR
 
 
  
 
 
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