Re: [Elecraft] Setting the AGC Threshold on K2

2005-12-19 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Hello Jeff,
Have you tried measuring the voltage at the wiper terminal of R1 (Control 
Board) or RP6 pins 4/5? These points are all connected together along with 
U2 pin 5, so you should get the same voltage +- a couple of millivolts at 
each of these points. The voltage at all these points should vary but remain 
equal as you tweak R1 and be .002V, approx 3.8V downwards.
However your .002 volt reading makes me wonder whether or not the probe is 
actually making contact with U2 pin 5 or is sitting on top of a layer of 
gunge that has formed on the IC's pin e.g. corrosion.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

jrb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on December 18, 2005 at 1128 PM

I've just completed the first alignment and test and everything  checks 
out except setting the AGC threshold.


When I put the probe of my DMM on pin 5 of U2 (a hellish place to get 
consistent readings) and adjust R1

I get only .002 DC volts.

I've resoldered the pins on both U2 and R1. I've looked through 
Troubleshooting and the Reflector and

haven't  found anything relevant.

By the way I had no trouble with the S-Meter alignment which is  dependent 
on the AGC threshold.


Is there any place else I should look  on the control board for a 
possible source of trouble, or could U2 or

R1 be defective? (I know components are rarely defective).





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RE: [Elecraft] Setting the AGC Threshold on K2

2005-12-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jeff,

Try measuring the voltage at U2 pin 5 again making certain your probes both
have good contact.

The voltage at U2 pin 5 is determined only by a resistor network - if it is
still quite low, check the voltage on the 8A line - the output of regulator
U4 (upper leg) - it should be 8 volts.

If you have 8 volts at U4, then check and re-check the soldering of Control
Board RP6, R1 and U2, then remeasure.  Remember that the voltage is
determined only by a resistive network (which includes the RF Gain pot),
there are no active components involved, so if the voltages to the resistors
and the connections are proper, you should achieve the correct voltage for
the AGC Threshold.

Be aware that the voltage for the AGC Threshold may not be optimum for your
K2.  After your K2 is fully built, aligned, and everything is working
properly, you can optimize the AGC Threshold so that the AGC does not become
active with no signal into the K2 antenna -  so don't be concerned if the
3.8 volts is near the upper limit, I find that the optimum setting will vary
from a low of 3.65 volts to a high of 3.78 volts.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 I've just completed the first alignment and test and everything
 checks out except setting the AGC threshold.

 When I put the probe of my DMM on pin 5 of U2 (a hellish place to get
 consistent readings) and adjust R1
 I get only .002 DC volts.

 I've resoldered the pins on both U2 and R1. I've looked through
 Troubleshooting and the Reflector and
 haven't  found anything relevant.

 By the way I had no trouble with the S-Meter alignment which is
 dependent on the AGC threshold.

 Is there any place else I should look  on the control board for a
 possible source of trouble, or could U2 or
 R1 be defective? (I know components are rarely defective).

 TIA,

 Jeff

 KG6ZVT


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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the AGC Threshold on K2

2005-12-19 Thread Gregg R. Lengling
Don I worked with him last night, he has it all going it was a cold solder 
joint on RP6 so he didn't have the 8 volt line.  He's got it working 
nowwe emailed off the list.  (Sometimes I forget to hit the reply all.)


Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Un-Retired
K2/100 SN 3075
http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org

- Original Message - 
From: Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: jrb [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Setting the AGC Threshold on K2



Jeff,

Try measuring the voltage at U2 pin 5 again making certain your probes 
both

have good contact.

The voltage at U2 pin 5 is determined only by a resistor network - if it 
is
still quite low, check the voltage on the 8A line - the output of 
regulator

U4 (upper leg) - it should be 8 volts.

If you have 8 volts at U4, then check and re-check the soldering of 
Control

Board RP6, R1 and U2, then remeasure.  Remember that the voltage is
determined only by a resistive network (which includes the RF Gain pot),
there are no active components involved, so if the voltages to the 
resistors

and the connections are proper, you should achieve the correct voltage for
the AGC Threshold.

Be aware that the voltage for the AGC Threshold may not be optimum for 
your

K2.  After your K2 is fully built, aligned, and everything is working
properly, you can optimize the AGC Threshold so that the AGC does not 
become

active with no signal into the K2 antenna -  so don't be concerned if the
3.8 volts is near the upper limit, I find that the optimum setting will 
vary

from a low of 3.65 volts to a high of 3.78 volts.

73,
Don W3FPR


-Original Message-

I've just completed the first alignment and test and everything
checks out except setting the AGC threshold.

When I put the probe of my DMM on pin 5 of U2 (a hellish place to get
consistent readings) and adjust R1
I get only .002 DC volts.

I've resoldered the pins on both U2 and R1. I've looked through
Troubleshooting and the Reflector and
haven't  found anything relevant.

By the way I had no trouble with the S-Meter alignment which is
dependent on the AGC threshold.

Is there any place else I should look  on the control board for a
possible source of trouble, or could U2 or
R1 be defective? (I know components are rarely defective).

TIA,

Jeff

KG6ZVT



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