Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Jim's Dot Stabilizer
All electronic keyers should come with a Lake Erie Swing mode. Makes more sense than having two iambic modes. Eric KE6US On 7/4/2014 10:55 AM, James Beitchman wrote: Bug users, A few months ago Jim, W0EB, posted a notice offering a device called a dot stabilizer to bug users. I have purchased and installed one of these on my ancient Vibroplex Champion. It is quite amazing. Gone are scratchy dots and sending is smoother and more regular. Before Jim's post I did not know that such a device existed. No bug user should be without one. The CW Police may still not like my occasionally intentional long dashes and sometimes Lake Erie swing - sorry about that decoder-users, but my dots, smoothness and error-free sending have significantly improved. 73, Buzz W3EMD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to eric_c...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Jim's Dot Stabilizer
As long as the Iambic mode you replace isn't *my* Iambic mode. :-) Why is it called Lake Erie Swing? For that matter, why are there two Iambic modes in the first place? 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 7/4/2014 11:57 AM, EricJ wrote: All electronic keyers should come with a Lake Erie Swing mode. Makes more sense than having two iambic modes. Eric KE6US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Jim's Dot Stabilizer
Here's a couple of recordings of W0BMU and the Lake Erie swing that Buzz mentions. Listen online or d/l them. The bands used to be full of interesting and quirky fists and styles like this. Not unlike speech patterns some were quite beautiful, some were in-your-face obnoxious. That was before non-meat code readers and (gakk!) keyboards. I always thought the Lake Erie swing was easy to copy in the speed range of most ham QSOs. It has an informal chatty feel to it. Anyway, for those who want to remember and for those who never knew: https://archive.org/details/W0bmuHowardtexHarveyW0bmu Eric KE6US On 7/4/2014 10:55 AM, James Beitchman wrote: Bug users, A few months ago Jim, W0EB, posted a notice offering a device called a dot stabilizer to bug users. I have purchased and installed one of these on my ancient Vibroplex Champion. It is quite amazing. Gone are scratchy dots and sending is smoother and more regular. Before Jim's post I did not know that such a device existed. No bug user should be without one. The CW Police may still not like my occasionally intentional long dashes and sometimes Lake Erie swing - sorry about that decoder-users, but my dots, smoothness and error-free sending have significantly improved. 73, Buzz W3EMD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to eric_c...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Jim's Dot Stabilizer
Why is it called Lake Erie Swing? Who knows? I always heard it called a banana boat swing but then my CW mentors were from around Lake Erie G. For that matter, why are there two Iambic modes in the first place? The original Curtis Iambic mode completed the element (dot or dash) being sent when [both] paddles were released at the same time. The iambic mode in the AccuKeyer had a logic error - the element memories were set as soon as the previous element completed - that completed the element being sent and then sent the *opposite* element if both paddles were released at the same time. This became known as Iambic B to distinguish it from the original Curtis iambic (Iambic A) mode. Those who learned on an AccuKeyer generally have problems with Curtis and vice versa. For an Iambic B (Accukeyer) user, trying to use an Iambic A keyer generally results in problems with incomplete letters (C, K, R, etc.) while for an Iambic A user trying to use an Iambic B keyer, the problems are generally more severe with extra elements added to the end of nearly any character which ends in alternating elements. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-07-04 3:29 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: As long as the Iambic mode you replace isn't *my* Iambic mode. :-) Why is it called Lake Erie Swing? For that matter, why are there two Iambic modes in the first place? 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 7/4/2014 11:57 AM, EricJ wrote: All electronic keyers should come with a Lake Erie Swing mode. Makes more sense than having two iambic modes. Eric KE6US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Jim's Dot Stabilizer
It is in what the keyer does when both are pushed: http://www.palm-radio.de/pdf/IambicPaddleModeAorBfunction-1.pdf == JHR On 7/4/2014 3:29 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: As long as the Iambic mode you replace isn't *my* Iambic mode. :-) Why is it called Lake Erie Swing? For that matter, why are there two Iambic modes in the first place? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Jim's Dot Stabilizer
OK, thanks for the recordings Eric. It isn't unique to hams, or to Erie Canal RO's. I worked Coastal Marine from So California in 56-57 while I was a senior in high school. That swing was fairly common, as were a large number of fists I can only categorize as truly sloppy, like an air traffic controller giving a clearance with a mouthful of marbles. His signal was clean however, and very easy to copy. Transmitters afloat were usually powered by M-G sets which often modulated the carrier with a whine. MCW from an audio oscillator was common on 500 Kc [emergency receivers afloat were usually unpowered crystal sets with no BFO], and key down dragged the M-G down. The result was a carrier that chirped, sometimes through the passband of my receiver, a steady whine that chirped, and the MCW audio that chirped, each in it's own key and tempo. I sort of assumed the name came from the RO's on the freighters in the Great Lakes, but never really knew. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 7/4/2014 12:39 PM, EricJ wrote: Here's a couple of recordings of W0BMU and the Lake Erie swing that Buzz mentions. Listen online or d/l them. The bands used to be full of interesting and quirky fists and styles like this. Not unlike speech patterns some were quite beautiful, some were in-your-face obnoxious. That was before non-meat code readers and (gakk!) keyboards. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
