Re: [Elecraft] CW Transmit Text Decode is off

2018-09-17 Thread Nr4c
The decode is rather persnickety. Your ears might not hear it but I suspect 
your sending is just not perfect enough to satisfy the decoder. 

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...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 16, 2018, at 8:05 PM, Cliff Clark  wrote:
> 
> I love my KX2, and I thought I would use the TX only CW code to practice,
> but I'm having a problem.
> 
> I turn Vox off so there is no RF out.
> 
> I'm sending some letters like L that end up as ED, or something an R ends
> up EN.  The sound emitted by the radio seems right though.  I even recorded
> it in Audacity on my laptop, and the waveform looks perfect, but the decode
> is sometimes right, and sometimes not.
> 
> Is this just the way it works, or am I just bad at sending?  (or maybe both
> :-)
> 
> I think I'll have to disable the CW decode for now.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Cliff (AG7CC)
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Transmit Text Decode is off

2018-09-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Make sure the contacts on the paddle are clean. Drag a business card between 
them while applying a bit of pressure. 

Also reduce the keyer speed a bit.   

I use both a single lever and a dual lever paddle. Timing and rhythm is the key 
to a good fist.  Roll your fist from side to side as opposed to pressing the 
lever by moving the thumb and forefinger. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 16, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Cliff Clark  wrote:
> 
> Well, I think I might know what is going on then.  The timing must be
> really tight.  I'm using a single lever paddle, and I think if it polls
> when I'm switching from dit to dah, or vice versa, then it breaks the
> letter, even if it sounds pretty much OK (well, it's faster than my ears
> anyway).
> 
> So, I guess the technique is to switch before the last element is sent so
> it has enough time to engage the next element before it polls.
> 
> I'm actually doing the level 1 CW Academy course.  I guess I have plenty of
> practice ahead.  It's pretty embarrassing not being able to send my own
> name right :-)
> 
> Anyway, good to know I'm not losing my mind (yet).
> 
> Thanks,
> Cliff
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:24 AM Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>> 
>> Cliff,
>> 
>> The decoder demands precise timing of dits, dahs, and the spacing.
>> It sounds like your "L" being decoded as ED is a result of a slight
>> pause between the leading dit and the following part of the dahs and
>> ending dits.
>> Similarly, "R" coming out as ED is the same problem - a slight pause
>> after the first dit.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/16/2018 8:05 PM, Cliff Clark wrote:
>>> I love my KX2, and I thought I would use the TX only CW code to practice,
>>> but I'm having a problem.
>>> 
>>> I turn Vox off so there is no RF out.
>>> 
>>> I'm sending some letters like L that end up as ED, or something an R ends
>>> up EN.  The sound emitted by the radio seems right though.  I even
>> recorded
>>> it in Audacity on my laptop, and the waveform looks perfect, but the
>> decode
>>> is sometimes right, and sometimes not.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Transmit Text Decode is off

2018-09-16 Thread Gwen Patton
>
> I'm actually doing the level 1 CW Academy course.  I guess I have plenty of
> practice ahead.  It's pretty embarrassing not being able to send my own
> name right :-)


I'm taking that course in January, Cliff! I'm not precisely level 1, but
it's been so long since I used my code that I'm starting over anyway. So I
know how you feel!

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 9:41 PM Cliff Clark  wrote:

> Well, I think I might know what is going on then.  The timing must be
> really tight.  I'm using a single lever paddle, and I think if it polls
> when I'm switching from dit to dah, or vice versa, then it breaks the
> letter, even if it sounds pretty much OK (well, it's faster than my ears
> anyway).
>
> So, I guess the technique is to switch before the last element is sent so
> it has enough time to engage the next element before it polls.
>
> I'm actually doing the level 1 CW Academy course.  I guess I have plenty of
> practice ahead.  It's pretty embarrassing not being able to send my own
> name right :-)
>
> Anyway, good to know I'm not losing my mind (yet).
>
> Thanks,
> Cliff
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:24 AM Don Wilhelm 
> wrote:
>
> > Cliff,
> >
> > The decoder demands precise timing of dits, dahs, and the spacing.
> > It sounds like your "L" being decoded as ED is a result of a slight
> > pause between the leading dit and the following part of the dahs and
> > ending dits.
> > Similarly, "R" coming out as ED is the same problem - a slight pause
> > after the first dit.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> >
> > On 9/16/2018 8:05 PM, Cliff Clark wrote:
> > > I love my KX2, and I thought I would use the TX only CW code to
> practice,
> > > but I'm having a problem.
> > >
> > > I turn Vox off so there is no RF out.
> > >
> > > I'm sending some letters like L that end up as ED, or something an R
> ends
> > > up EN.  The sound emitted by the radio seems right though.  I even
> > recorded
> > > it in Audacity on my laptop, and the waveform looks perfect, but the
> > decode
> > > is sometimes right, and sometimes not.
> > >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Transmit Text Decode is off

2018-09-16 Thread Cliff Clark
Well, I think I might know what is going on then.  The timing must be
really tight.  I'm using a single lever paddle, and I think if it polls
when I'm switching from dit to dah, or vice versa, then it breaks the
letter, even if it sounds pretty much OK (well, it's faster than my ears
anyway).

So, I guess the technique is to switch before the last element is sent so
it has enough time to engage the next element before it polls.

I'm actually doing the level 1 CW Academy course.  I guess I have plenty of
practice ahead.  It's pretty embarrassing not being able to send my own
name right :-)

Anyway, good to know I'm not losing my mind (yet).

Thanks,
Cliff



On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:24 AM Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Cliff,
>
> The decoder demands precise timing of dits, dahs, and the spacing.
> It sounds like your "L" being decoded as ED is a result of a slight
> pause between the leading dit and the following part of the dahs and
> ending dits.
> Similarly, "R" coming out as ED is the same problem - a slight pause
> after the first dit.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 9/16/2018 8:05 PM, Cliff Clark wrote:
> > I love my KX2, and I thought I would use the TX only CW code to practice,
> > but I'm having a problem.
> >
> > I turn Vox off so there is no RF out.
> >
> > I'm sending some letters like L that end up as ED, or something an R ends
> > up EN.  The sound emitted by the radio seems right though.  I even
> recorded
> > it in Audacity on my laptop, and the waveform looks perfect, but the
> decode
> > is sometimes right, and sometimes not.
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Transmit Text Decode is off

2018-09-16 Thread Don Wilhelm

Cliff,

The decoder demands precise timing of dits, dahs, and the spacing.
It sounds like your "L" being decoded as ED is a result of a slight 
pause between the leading dit and the following part of the dahs and 
ending dits.
Similarly, "R" coming out as ED is the same problem - a slight pause 
after the first dit.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 9/16/2018 8:05 PM, Cliff Clark wrote:

I love my KX2, and I thought I would use the TX only CW code to practice,
but I'm having a problem.

I turn Vox off so there is no RF out.

I'm sending some letters like L that end up as ED, or something an R ends
up EN.  The sound emitted by the radio seems right though.  I even recorded
it in Audacity on my laptop, and the waveform looks perfect, but the decode
is sometimes right, and sometimes not.


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Re: [Elecraft] CW Transmit Text Decode is off

2018-09-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
If it is decoding two characters and not one, this says the sending spacing and 
length of each element is inconsistent. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Cliff Clark  wrote:
> 
> I love my KX2, and I thought I would use the TX only CW code to practice,
> but I'm having a problem.
> 
> I turn Vox off so there is no RF out.
> 
> I'm sending some letters like L that end up as ED, or something an R ends
> up EN.  The sound emitted by the radio seems right though.  I even recorded
> it in Audacity on my laptop, and the waveform looks perfect, but the decode
> is sometimes right, and sometimes not.
> 
> Is this just the way it works, or am I just bad at sending?  (or maybe both
> :-)
> 
> I think I'll have to disable the CW decode for now.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Cliff (AG7CC)
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