Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
In case anyone is interested. I loaded Outlook 2010. What a wonderful piece of software. I sort by conversations. I went from multiple messages under the Clock topic to just a couple conversations and was able to two-click them away to the deleted folder. Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 6:46 AM To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy Agreed about the clock. It's hard to imagine any logging software that can't do a time sync with a NIST server, unless you're in the boonies. My wristwatch claims to sync with WWV nightly. I'm not sure what leeway LoTW (or some contests) allows for matching but it might be as tight as 30 seconds. 73, Mike NF4L Don Wilhelm wrote: But those modes are computer generated, and the computer clock can be easily sync'ed with a NIST standard. I don't know why anyone would want to use a free-running clock for anything that requires that degree of accuracy. The RTC in the K2 or the K3 is intended only for a logging convenience when no other timepiece is available. I cannot believe it was ever intended to be a precision clock standard. If you err in your log entry by 30 seconds, does anyone care? 73, Don W3FPR Dave wrote: Some digital (HF) modes require transmissions timed to start within 1 second accuracy. I learnt a long time ago not to use the internal K3 clock for that purpose. Dave __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
My K3 clock jis pretty darn accurate. It just told me it's 11PM and time for bed. Now that's practical. night All (Grin) Gary On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com wrote: In case anyone is interested. I loaded Outlook 2010. What a wonderful piece of software. I sort by conversations. I went from multiple messages under the Clock topic to just a couple conversations and was able to two-click them away to the deleted folder. Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 6:46 AM To: d...@w3fpr.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy Agreed about the clock. It's hard to imagine any logging software that can't do a time sync with a NIST server, unless you're in the boonies. My wristwatch claims to sync with WWV nightly. I'm not sure what leeway LoTW (or some contests) allows for matching but it might be as tight as 30 seconds. 73, Mike NF4L Don Wilhelm wrote: But those modes are computer generated, and the computer clock can be easily sync'ed with a NIST standard. I don't know why anyone would want to use a free-running clock for anything that requires that degree of accuracy. The RTC in the K2 or the K3 is intended only for a logging convenience when no other timepiece is available. I cannot believe it was ever intended to be a precision clock standard. If you err in your log entry by 30 seconds, does anyone care? 73, Don W3FPR Dave wrote: Some digital (HF) modes require transmissions timed to start within 1 second accuracy. I learnt a long time ago not to use the internal K3 clock for that purpose. Dave __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
You can do the same with Outlook 2007, which I use, and maybe even Outlook 2003. Back to clocks(!), I've used computer logging since the DOS DXbase in the early 1990s and now DXLab and have an Atomic Clock synced to WWVB on the wall. My computer syncs with NIST every week or more often if I want to do it manually. For me the K3 clock is nice but I forget it's there. Jim N7US -Original Message- In case anyone is interested. I loaded Outlook 2010. What a wonderful piece of software. I sort by conversations. I went from multiple messages under the Clock topic to just a couple conversations and was able to two-click them away to the deleted folder. Bill K9YEQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
Unbelievable... 73 Jeff kb2m -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim McDonald Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:39 AM To: 'Elecraft' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion You can do the same with Outlook 2007, which I use, and maybe even Outlook 2003. Back to clocks(!), I've used computer logging since the DOS DXbase in the early 1990s and now DXLab and have an Atomic Clock synced to WWVB on the wall. My computer syncs with NIST every week or more often if I want to do it manually. For me the K3 clock is nice but I forget it's there. Jim N7US -Original Message- In case anyone is interested. I loaded Outlook 2010. What a wonderful piece of software. I sort by conversations. I went from multiple messages under the Clock topic to just a couple conversations and was able to two-click them away to the deleted folder. Bill K9YEQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
Maybe we've had enough postings about the clock :) Thanks, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
Wayne is correct. It's time for a change. Terry, W0FM -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:39 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion Maybe we've had enough postings about the clock :) Thanks, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
Unsubscribe In a message dated 6/25/2010 11:39:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, n...@elecraft.com writes: Maybe we've had enough postings about the clock :) Thanks, Wayne N6KR __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock Accuracy and Outlook 2010 conversation deletion
D for Delete works better than R for ReadGrin Woiks fer me Gary On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 7:31 AM, w8...@aol.com wrote: Unsubscribe In a message dated 6/25/2010 11:39:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, n...@elecraft.com writes: Maybe we've had enough postings about the clock :) Thanks, Wayne N6KR __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
