Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly

2012-12-05 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Since it has an alligator clip, connect it to the mains safety ground. Also
connect the mat to the same ground.

DO NOT attach the alligator clip to the edge of the mat. If there's a
terminal for the ground, fine, but the resistance of most mats is too high
to simply clamp an alligator clip onto the side. 

You should find that there is about 1 megohm of resistance between the metal
terminal that rests against your wrist and the alligator clip at the end of
the cord. That is a built-in resistance designed to protect you from
dangerous electrical shock should you touch a "hot" circuit, but still low
enough to ensure that any charge on your body is dissipated rapidly --
provided the alligator clip is attached to a ground.

73, and have fun! Ron AC7AC



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:04 PM
To: 'Jay Krishna'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly

Jay most have a snap on them that snaps to the one on the mat like it. Then
the mat attaches to the ground.

Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jay Krishna
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly


Hi all,
 
I received my K3 kit yesterday and am setting up to start assembly. I bought
an ESD mat and a wrist band. I was wondering what I should connect the
alligator clip from the wrist band to, for best protection?
 
Thanks,
 
Jay (KD6AMA)  
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Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly

2012-12-05 Thread Philip Townsend Lontz
Thanks Don... Yes indeed...all my grounds are connected to each other via big 
fat ass cables. 

Sent, as to how? Who cares!

On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Phil,
> 
> Connection to the AC ground should be adequate and safe - if a receptacle is 
> properly grounded, remove the screw in the center of the cover plate and 
> attach a terminal lug there.
> 
> If your station ground is connected by a heavy guage wire to the Utility 
> Entry ground point, then I will agree with your that the station ground will 
> do.
> 
> We all know that there are references to "station ground" that are connected 
> to driven ground rods that are NOT connected to the Utility Entry ground.
> 
>  I need to point out that not only is that a violation of NEC grounding 
> requirements, but it presents safety hazards for anyone in contact with that 
> station ground under AC wiring fault conditions. All grounds must be 
> connected together except for structures separated by 100 feet or more.
> 
> See the 2010 (or later) ARRL Handbook for further information.
> 
> I apologize if this sounds like a rant, but it is not - it is concern for the 
> safety of each and every ham.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 12/5/2012 5:32 PM, Philip Townsend Lontz wrote:
>> I connect mine to my station ground... If there is zero lightning!
>> 
>> Sent, as to how? Who cares!
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly

2012-12-05 Thread Don Wilhelm

Phil,

Connection to the AC ground should be adequate and safe - if a 
receptacle is properly grounded, remove the screw in the center of the 
cover plate and attach a terminal lug there.


If your station ground is connected by a heavy guage wire to the Utility 
Entry ground point, then I will agree with your that the station ground 
will do.


We all know that there are references to "station ground" that are 
connected to driven ground rods that are NOT connected to the Utility 
Entry ground.


  I need to point out that not only is that a violation of NEC 
grounding requirements, but it presents safety hazards for anyone in 
contact with that station ground under AC wiring fault conditions. All 
grounds must be connected together except for structures separated by 
100 feet or more.


See the 2010 (or later) ARRL Handbook for further information.

I apologize if this sounds like a rant, but it is not - it is concern 
for the safety of each and every ham.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/5/2012 5:32 PM, Philip Townsend Lontz wrote:

I connect mine to my station ground... If there is zero lightning!

Sent, as to how? Who cares!

On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:




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Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly

2012-12-05 Thread Alan Bloom

The important thing is that you and the device you are working on are at the
same potential (voltage).  When you place the device on the anti-static mat,
it will be at the mat potential.  So you should connect your wrist strap to
the mat.  Most wrist straps have a snap that connects to a matching snap on
the mat.

It is also important that the soldering iron be at the same potential as any
device you are soldering with it.  Assuming the soldering iron is grounded
to the electrical system safety ground, then the mat should be connected to
ground as well.

Alan N1AL


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From: "Philip Townsend Lontz" 

To: "Fred Smith" 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly



I connect mine to my station ground... If there is zero lightning!

Sent, as to how? Who cares!

On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:


Jay most have a snap on them that snaps to the one on the mat like it.
Then
the mat attaches to the ground.

Fred/N0AZZ

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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly


Hi all,

I received my K3 kit yesterday and am setting up to start assembly. I
bought
an ESD mat and a wrist band. I was wondering what I should connect the
alligator clip from the wrist band to, for best protection?

Thanks,

Jay (KD6AMA)
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Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly

2012-12-05 Thread Philip Townsend Lontz
I connect mine to my station ground... If there is zero lightning!

Sent, as to how? Who cares!

On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:04 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:

> Jay most have a snap on them that snaps to the one on the mat like it. Then
> the mat attaches to the ground.
> 
> Fred/N0AZZ
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:34 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I received my K3 kit yesterday and am setting up to start assembly. I bought
> an ESD mat and a wrist band. I was wondering what I should connect the
> alligator clip from the wrist band to, for best protection?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jay (KD6AMA) 
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Re: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly

2012-12-05 Thread Fred Smith
Jay most have a snap on them that snaps to the one on the mat like it. Then
the mat attaches to the ground.

Fred/N0AZZ

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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:34 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ESD Protection for K3 Assembly


Hi all,
 
I received my K3 kit yesterday and am setting up to start assembly. I bought
an ESD mat and a wrist band. I was wondering what I should connect the
alligator clip from the wrist band to, for best protection?
 
Thanks,
 
Jay (KD6AMA)  
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