Re: [Elecraft] Elmer Request
Hi there, I'm not an elmer but I just wanted to drop a note that torrids aren't really that hard to wind. Just stick the wire through the hole the specified number of times, then strip the leads by passing them through a blob of solder on your soldering iron. I found it to be quite easy and a lot of fun! 73, Kristina KE7LUC On Aug 5, 2007, at 8:18 PM, KU4YP wrote: is there possibly an elmer for the k2 near me? would like to sit down and possibly get help with assembly. i am at page 60 in the manual but i am kinda iffy on my torrid winding. i am planning on buying the pre-wound torrids in the near future. i guess that is an art. will gladly pay for your time. it is not the fact that the list has not helped, i am just a hands on kinda guy, i guess. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elmer Request
I am not local to you, but perhaps I can help with the toroid winding. They are not difficult - some may regard them as 'tedious', but they are not difficult. Just remember 2 things - 1) count correctly, a wire through the center of the core is a turn - if the wire makes a full wrap around the core, that is two turns. 2) PUSH the wire through the center of the core - it is better than trying to pull the wire through - that is especially important with the ferrite cores which may have sharp edges and can scrape the insulation from the wire. Oh yes, form the wire against the *outside* of the core on each turn to make a nice tight winding. If there are a lot of turns on the toroid, start in the middle of the wire and wind half the turns, then flip it over and wind the second half. All toroids for Elecraft products are wound in a 'clockwise; direction - if you wind the turns in the wrong way, the toroids will work, but will not fit the hole pattern correctly. If you hold the core in your right hand, the turns are formed by pushing the wire from top to bottom, but if you choose to hold the core in your left hand, then push the wore upward through the hole to produce the correct winding sense. Tin the leads using the 'solder blob' method - use a high heat to make it easier and tin right up to the core - the cores are not conductive. The tinned leads should look bright and shiny. 73, Don W3FPR KU4YP wrote: hello, is there possibly an elmer for the k2 near me? would like to sit down and possibly get help with assembly. i am at page 60 in the manual but i am kinda iffy on my torrid winding. i am planning on buying the pre-wound torrids in the near future. i guess that is an art. will gladly pay for your time. it is not the fact that the list has not helped, i am just a hands on kinda guy, i guess. best 73 and any help appreciated. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elmer background info
In a message dated 6/28/07 11:27:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971 according to this source: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/mentor/ I remember when that article came out.I wasn't a new ham then... I don't know if it was the first use of Elmer meaning amateur radio mentor in print. But it's the first one I know of. And I know that it became much more common to see in print after that. What I think is most significant is that almost every ham knew the concept already - some more-experienced amateur who made a point of helping and encouraging others. I still miss W9BRD's column. It was one of the best examples of stealth journalism I ever read. While it was allegedly a DX column, and had lots of DX info, his commentary wandered into many other areas. The Jeeves cartoons, Grommethead Schultz, the DXHPDS limericks and their unusual character names (Noah Q. Essels Harry Uppensign Lotta Chassis) were just the obvious things. His writings went off on interesting tangents, such as the trend towards miniature rigs, (Madame Mu, the shack Siamese, did not approve), antenna restrictions, pop culture references and much more. One didn't have to be a DXer to read and enjoy How's DX in those days. Which introduced many a non-DXer ham, such as myself, to DXing, and built a community of sorts. Kinda like many OT postings today 73 de Jim shall we order an anchovy pizza for dinner tonight, Jeeves? N2EY ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elmer background info
Is W9BRD a silent key now? I QSOed him a couple of years ago several times on 30 meters. Nice fellow. I 'wonder if Elmer might have been derived from the author Elmer E. Bucher who worked for RCA and wrote several books during the early 20's in the spark era? 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elmer background info In a message dated 6/28/07 11:27:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971 according to this source: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/mentor/ I remember when that article came out.I wasn't a new ham then... I don't know if it was the first use of Elmer meaning amateur radio mentor in print. But it's the first one I know of. And I know that it became much more common to see in print after that. What I think is most significant is that almost every ham knew the concept already - some more-experienced amateur who made a point of helping and encouraging others. I still miss W9BRD's column. It was one of the best examples of stealth journalism I ever read. While it was allegedly a DX column, and had lots of DX info, his commentary wandered into many other areas. The Jeeves cartoons, Grommethead Schultz, the DXHPDS limericks and their unusual character names (Noah Q. Essels Harry Uppensign Lotta Chassis) were just the obvious things. His writings went off on interesting tangents, such as the trend towards miniature rigs, (Madame Mu, the shack Siamese, did not approve), antenna restrictions, pop culture references and much more. One didn't have to be a DXer to read and enjoy How's DX in those days. Which introduced many a non-DXer ham, such as myself, to DXing, and built a community of sorts. Kinda like many OT postings today 73 de Jim shall we order an anchovy pizza for dinner tonight, Jeeves? N2EY ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/880 - Release Date: 6/29/2007 2:15 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elmer background info
The term may have been 'officialized' by the article, but I remember K6MJX offering to be my 'Elmer' when I was 14 years old in 1958. I asked him then where the term came from and he said he didn't know - it was like Ham which had fuzzy origins. The term was in usage here and there well before the 70's Al WA6VNN ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elmer background info
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:55:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The term may have been 'officialized' by the article, but I remember K6MJX offering to be my 'Elmer' when I was 14 years old in 1958. I asked him then where the term came from and he said he didn't know - it was like Ham which had fuzzy origins. The term was in usage here and there well before the 70's I first discovered ham radio in 1951 in my high school radio club (W2CLE, allegedly the first HS radio club licensed on the US) and the term was not in use there at the time. Anyhow, my Elmers were named Gene and Jack ! We were all the same general age (14). -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 (Licensed as K2ASP in 1952) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elmer
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Seems to me the word Elmer is a stateside only thing, we never used it in the UK or here in Australia. communications. That usually leaves then gobsmacked ! Seems to me that gobsmacked is not a term that is heavily used here in the coloniesgoes it have anything to do with tea leaves, or conscripted sailors? Thom,EIEIO k3hrn Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Elmer background info
Yep. It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971 according to this source: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/mentor/ Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Some years ago a grateful ham wrote a warm fuzzy magazine article in one of the US Amateur radio magazines (QST?) thanking the man who had been his mentor into the hobby. The man's name was Elmer. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elmer
On 6/28/07, Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me that gobsmacked is not a term that is heavily used here in the coloniesgoes it have anything to do with tea leaves, or conscripted sailors? Nope. It means you're left feeling astonished like you've just been smacked in the gob (translation: punched in the mouth.) After an Aussie has downed a few tinnies (had a few beers) he often feels like smacking people in the gob, allegedly. :) 73, -- Julian, G4ILO G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? www.Ham-Directory.com: the best ham resources on the net ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Elmer
Ron wrote: Yep. It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971 Heck, being 1971-era, it's surprising that guy's name wasn't Moon Unit or Peace Head or Gossamer Lollipop or some such thing. Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
