Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY Message

[Arie Kleingeld PA3A]

Hi Bob,

I've been playing with the RSP1A at the IF of my K3 and HDSDR and SDR 
Uno as panadapter software. I also had Omnirig running for this. Never 
bumped into the kind of problem you describe. I can reproduce your 
problem though, by setting up omnirig with wrong RTS/DTR setting. One 
thing to observe is that you connect OmniRig to the K3 with RTS and DTR 
low. This will probably cure your problem.


HDSDR / SDR Uno and the RSP1A  not really gave me the results I want. My 
best and cheap panadapter is still the IF-Softrock plus my pc-onboard 
soundcard. Software: NAP3 and LP-BRIDGE. Wonderful pieces of software 
(THANK YOU GUYS). They do the trick for a beautiful panadapter (in 
collapsed mode) and flawless integration with the K3 and other software. 
The noise floor might not be as low as in the P3 of LP-pan, but it works 
for me as a panadapter.


73

Arie PA3A

Op 17-4-2019 om 03:57 schreef Bob Conder via Elecraft:

Been trying to configure SDR Uno with RSP2 as a spectrum scope. (Using IF output to RSP) 
But not much luck.Right now, when I turn on SDR Uno, with the K3 already in CW mode, the 
SDR keys the rig for a moment, then stops.The "ERR KEY" message shows up on the 
screen.Can't get the message to clear, and can't send CW, so have to pwr down the rig, to 
get the error message to clearand to be able to operate the K3 agn.Anyone else with SDR 
Uno/RSP2 have this problem?Any suggestions appreciated.TIA,Bob K4RLC

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Re: [Elecraft] Err Key

[Don Wilhelm]

That ERR KEY problem is usually mechanical - think of something like a 
pencil propped up on the paddles or something similar.


Sometimes though it is found to be a bad paddle or key cable.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/24/2018 4:12 PM, marvwhee...@nwlink.com wrote:

Thanks everyone problem solved. It was mechanical rather than electrical.


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Re: [Elecraft] Err Key

[marvwheeler]

Thanks everyone problem solved. It was mechanical rather than electrical.

 

Don - I didn't have to worry about a microphone because one is never hooked
up to my rig. Hi Hi

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73

Marv Wheeler

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Re: [Elecraft] Err Key

[Don Wilhelm]

Marv,

Are you using computer control of the K3S and power on the computer at 
nearly the same time as the K3S?  If you have the PTT-KEY menu set to 
anything other than Off - Off, that can occur as the computer tests the 
com ports.


Other than that, the K3S is detecting a key, paddle, or PTT closure when 
it is powered up.  You just have to find out which one.  Unplug all of 
them and plug them in one at a time (powering on after each one is 
plugged) to reveal which one is causing the error.

Don't forget the microphone jack.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/24/2018 3:08 PM, marvwhee...@nwlink.com wrote:

This ERR KEY message as show up on my k3S displayed in the Sub Receiver
display area. Any ideas on how to get rid of it?

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Re: [Elecraft] Err Key

[Nr4c]

Unplug all cables from rear except power and antenna. Now turn radio on. Plug 
cables one by one and cycle power each time till you find the one causing the 
issue. 

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> On Dec 24, 2018, at 3:14 PM, David Bunte  wrote:
> 
> Marv -
> 
> Page 69 of the K3 manual says that means the key circuit is closed when the
> rig is turned on. It may be a different page for the K3S, but my guess is
> it is the same issue.
> 
> Dave - K9FN
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:09 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> This ERR KEY message as show up on my k3S displayed in the Sub Receiver
>> display area. Any ideas on how to get rid of it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marv
>> 
>> KG7V
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Re: [Elecraft] Err Key

[David Bunte]

Marv -

Page 69 of the K3 manual says that means the key circuit is closed when the
rig is turned on. It may be a different page for the K3S, but my guess is
it is the same issue.

Dave - K9FN

On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 3:09 PM  wrote:

> This ERR KEY message as show up on my k3S displayed in the Sub Receiver
> display area. Any ideas on how to get rid of it?
>
>
>
> Marv
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Jim Miller]

I like using assigning rig to DXLabs Commander. Seems to work very smoothly
so far. That way there are no port conflicts and I don't need to kill my
logging program (DXLabs Suite) to run WSJT-x.

jim ab3cv

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:

> My first guess is that either DTR or RTS is being asserted by WSJT and you
> have it configured in your K3 for PTT.  CONFIG --> PTT-KEY --> OFF-OFF will
> do it if that's the case.  Happened to me.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
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> On 12/21/2016 4:39 PM, Howard Sherer wrote:
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>> I have installed the new version of WSJT-X and when changing the bands on
>> my K3s, I get the ERR KEY code on the display and the K3s is forced into
>> Tx. I must power cycle the K3s to clear, but repeats when I go to these
>> bands again.
>>
>> This occurs only on 80, 20, 17, 15, 10, & 6M, the other bands are fine?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Fred Jensen]

My first guess is that either DTR or RTS is being asserted by WSJT and 
you have it configured in your K3 for PTT.  CONFIG --> PTT-KEY --> 
OFF-OFF will do it if that's the case.  Happened to me.



73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV
Washoe County DM09dn

On 12/21/2016 4:39 PM, Howard Sherer wrote:

I have installed the new version of WSJT-X and when changing the bands on
my K3s, I get the ERR KEY code on the display and the K3s is forced into
Tx. I must power cycle the K3s to clear, but repeats when I go to these
bands again.

This occurs only on 80, 20, 17, 15, 10, & 6M, the other bands are fine?

Any ideas?


Howard AE3T
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Nr4c]

Unplug everything but power and antenna. Begin adding cables one at a time. 

What mode is in use on each of those bands?  Check VOX. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 7:39 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
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> I have installed the new version of WSJT-X and when changing the bands on
> my K3s, I get the ERR KEY code on the display and the K3s is forced into
> Tx. I must power cycle the K3s to clear, but repeats when I go to these
> bands again.
> 
> This occurs only on 80, 20, 17, 15, 10, & 6M, the other bands are fine?
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Ken Arck]

Do you have "Allow Tx frequency changes while transmitting" TX 
checked under Settings?


Ken


At 04:39 PM 12/21/2016, Howard Sherer wrote:

I have installed the new version of WSJT-X and when changing the bands on
my K3s, I get the ERR KEY code on the display and the K3s is forced into
Tx. I must power cycle the K3s to clear, but repeats when I go to these
bands again.

This occurs only on 80, 20, 17, 15, 10, & 6M, the other bands are fine?

Any ideas?


Howard AE3T
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Dave Cole]

As a self check, my K3, (not S), works fine with the new version, 1.7.

73s and thanks,
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On 12/21/2016 04:39 PM, Howard Sherer wrote:

I have installed the new version of WSJT-X and when changing the bands on
my K3s, I get the ERR KEY code on the display and the K3s is forced into
Tx. I must power cycle the K3s to clear, but repeats when I go to these
bands again.

This occurs only on 80, 20, 17, 15, 10, & 6M, the other bands are fine?

Any ideas?


Howard AE3T
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Kevin Stover]

I think it's directly proportional to the amount we spend on said device.
If we spend a lot for it, the the expensive doo -dad must be at fault 
when things hit the fan.
Couldn't possibly be the software. N1MM+ is a great piece of software 
used by thousands and the price is free, gratis, etcIt's not 
perfect, never will be.


On 3/29/2016 9:11 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

Same ole thing...

Always, always, always rule out ALL the programs and stuff ATTACHED to the
K3 before tearing apart your K3. The vast majority of "K3 problems" have
nothing to do with the K3. I'm sure that some day some smart psychologist
will explain why we continue to do that, all evidence to the contrary.

A certain someone said to me once, "It just can't be the programs." I asked
why not. I got a hostile look. "It's the K3, it's always the K3", he said.

It was N1MM and the serial port sharing software, finally put to rest **a
year and a half later**.

I wish that psychologist would get on his horse and explain this worrisome
predilection of ours. Bet it has something to do with needing to blame
someone for our distress.

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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Same ole thing...

Always, always, always rule out ALL the programs and stuff ATTACHED to the
K3 before tearing apart your K3. The vast majority of "K3 problems" have
nothing to do with the K3. I'm sure that some day some smart psychologist
will explain why we continue to do that, all evidence to the contrary.

A certain someone said to me once, "It just can't be the programs." I asked
why not. I got a hostile look. "It's the K3, it's always the K3", he said.

It was N1MM and the serial port sharing software, finally put to rest **a
year and a half later**.

I wish that psychologist would get on his horse and explain this worrisome
predilection of ours. Bet it has something to do with needing to blame
someone for our distress.

73, Guy K2AV

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:57 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> On 3/28/2016 6:34 PM, tomb18 wrote:
> > I often get this message and I never use n1mm+.
>
> N1MM+ polling abuses the transceiver.  Try setting the N1MM+ polling
> speed to 50% less or 100% less.  If you see this issue with other
> software, make sure the other software is not overrunning the K3
> processor.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

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On 3/28/2016 6:34 PM, tomb18 wrote:
> I often get this message and I never use n1mm+.

N1MM+ polling abuses the transceiver.  Try setting the N1MM+ polling
speed to 50% less or 100% less.  If you see this issue with other
software, make sure the other software is not overrunning the K3
processor.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[tomb18]

I often get this message and I never use n1mm+.In my case it seems to have 
something to do with Vox, happening if I put my headphones down on the 
counterTom



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: 
Don Wilhelm  Date: 2016-03-28  6:25 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
Dennis , Reflector Elecraft  
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY 
Dennis,

All the reports of this error message seem to be related to the use of 
N1MM+, so if you have not done so, I suggest you ask the folks at N1MM 
support about it.

Yes, that message should only occur if the key line or PTT is shorted 
during a power on sequence.
So my question is "What is N1MM+ doing to activate that message?" There 
may be some situations where the K3 firmware and N1MM programming is at 
odds with one another - at least it seems that way.  I have not 
experienced anything like that.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/28/2016 6:09 PM, Dennis wrote:
> I wrote earlier today about what triggers the ERR KEY error on the 
> screen of the K3.  I have had several suggestions about what it is, so 
> I'll reply to them generically.
>
> The contest this past weekend was an SSB contest.  The ERR KEY message 
> (and not ERR PTT) appeared 40 or 50 times.  Yes, there was a cw keying 
> line attached to the radio, but it was never used.
>
> The CONFIG:PTT-KEY in the K3 menu is OFF-OFF.  The radio control part 
> of the N1MM+ software had DTR and RTS both off.  None of the PTT via 
> hardware options was checked.
>
> I happen to be using an SO2R Box, but others that have told me they 
> are having the same higher incidence of ERR KEY messages
>
> The ERR KEY message seemed to be associated with use and stopping of 
> the Dueling CQ function of the N1MM+ software.  The Dueling CQ 
> function would be stopped by entering something in an EW.
>
> Both radios were connected to the computer via real Com ports.  No USB 
> to Serial converters were involved.
>
> I have been told by at least 6 other ops that they have seen an 
> increased incidence of ERR KEY messages.  I don't know what firmware 
> they are using, but I know I am using 5.38.
>
> The ERR KEY seems to be related to PTT timing, but I'm not totally sure.
>
> If I could find other reasons why the K3 was producing that error, I 
> may be able to come up with a fix, either in software,  in someone's 
> firmware, or in some setting within the K3 Config menu or N1MM+. Right 
> now, the only definition I have of the ERR KEY concerns shorting the 
> keying line when the rig is turned on, which definitely is not the 
> case here.
>

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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Don Wilhelm]

Dennis,

All the reports of this error message seem to be related to the use of 
N1MM+, so if you have not done so, I suggest you ask the folks at N1MM 
support about it.


Yes, that message should only occur if the key line or PTT is shorted 
during a power on sequence.
So my question is "What is N1MM+ doing to activate that message?" There 
may be some situations where the K3 firmware and N1MM programming is at 
odds with one another - at least it seems that way.  I have not 
experienced anything like that.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/28/2016 6:09 PM, Dennis wrote:
I wrote earlier today about what triggers the ERR KEY error on the 
screen of the K3.  I have had several suggestions about what it is, so 
I'll reply to them generically.


The contest this past weekend was an SSB contest.  The ERR KEY message 
(and not ERR PTT) appeared 40 or 50 times.  Yes, there was a cw keying 
line attached to the radio, but it was never used.


The CONFIG:PTT-KEY in the K3 menu is OFF-OFF.  The radio control part 
of the N1MM+ software had DTR and RTS both off.  None of the PTT via 
hardware options was checked.


I happen to be using an SO2R Box, but others that have told me they 
are having the same higher incidence of ERR KEY messages


The ERR KEY message seemed to be associated with use and stopping of 
the Dueling CQ function of the N1MM+ software.  The Dueling CQ 
function would be stopped by entering something in an EW.


Both radios were connected to the computer via real Com ports.  No USB 
to Serial converters were involved.


I have been told by at least 6 other ops that they have seen an 
increased incidence of ERR KEY messages.  I don't know what firmware 
they are using, but I know I am using 5.38.


The ERR KEY seems to be related to PTT timing, but I'm not totally sure.

If I could find other reasons why the K3 was producing that error, I 
may be able to come up with a fix, either in software,  in someone's 
firmware, or in some setting within the K3 Config menu or N1MM+. Right 
now, the only definition I have of the ERR KEY concerns shorting the 
keying line when the rig is turned on, which definitely is not the 
case here.




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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Richard Ferch]

Dennis,

Some questions that might perhaps throw some light on what is happening:

What method are you using for CW keying? Are you using PTT control in CW?
How is N1MM+ configured to do CW and PTT keying?

One particular area to look at:

What is CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to on the K3? In the N1MM+ configuration is the
CW/Other check box checked for the radio control port, and what are DTR and
RTS set to for that port?

73,
Rich VE3KI


From: Elecraft  on behalf of Dennis

Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:54 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

This past weekend I experienced numerous ERR KEY messages. According to
the manual, this ERR code is returned when one "attempts to key the
transmitter or activate PTT during power on". When this would happen,
there was no power turn on, nor shorted keying lines- it was in
operation with N1MM+ in an SO2R mode.

What else would cause that error message?  If I tried to key the radio
before the PTT had been fully asserted, would I get that error?  I am
thinking that there is some connection between that error message and
some timing elements of the PTT/Keying process that I could correct.

I have another op that is getting this error in an unrelated setup. We
are both using the latest K3 firmware, 5.38.

Dennis W1UE
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[j...@kk9a.com]

I think W1UE is already a very proficient CW operator! I had the ERR Key
message while operating as WP2AA this month. If I recall it was from
accidentally plugging the headphones into the PTT connection of the Heil
mic adapter. It was a little bit of a scare just minutes before the ARRL
DX Phone contest started! Assuming that everything is wired correctly,
could there be a timing issue with your N1MM PTT?

GL,
John KK9A


Cady, Fred fcady at montana.edu
Mon Mar 28 09:12:10 EDT 2016

Hi Dennis,
Good for you!  N1NN+ is great and CW contesting is even better.
There are a couple of programs that will help you improve your copy for
call signs and numbers.  These are Morse Runner and Rufz.
http://www.dxatlas.com/morserunner/
http://www.rufzxp.net/

Morse runner even simulates N1MM in a pileup and you can adjust the speed,
pileup conditions etc.
Rufz sends one call at a time and if you get it right, ups the speed for
the next one, wrong, slows down a notch.

Try to develop the following habits:
In Morse Runner Hit enter to start sending the call before you type the
last letter of the call.
In Rufz when speeds get high, let the whole call go by before you type it it.

Use these a few minutes each day and you will be amazed how much better
you will be.
73,
Fred KE7X

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From: Elecraft  on behalf of Dennis

Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:54 AM
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

This past weekend I experienced numerous ERR KEY messages. According to
the manual, this ERR code is returned when one "attempts to key the
transmitter or activate PTT during power on". When this would happen,
there was no power turn on, nor shorted keying lines- it was in
operation with N1MM+ in an SO2R mode.

What else would cause that error message?  If I tried to key the radio
before the PTT had been fully asserted, would I get that error?  I am
thinking that there is some connection between that error message and
some timing elements of the PTT/Keying process that I could correct.

I have another op that is getting this error in an unrelated setup. We
are both using the latest K3 firmware, 5.38.

Dennis W1UE

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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Cady, Fred]

Hi Dennis,
Good for you!  N1NN+ is great and CW contesting is even better.
There are a couple of programs that will help you improve your copy for call 
signs and numbers.  These are Morse Runner and Rufz.
http://www.dxatlas.com/morserunner/
http://www.rufzxp.net/

Morse runner even simulates N1MM in a pileup and you can adjust the speed, 
pileup conditions etc.
Rufz sends one call at a time and if you get it right, ups the speed for the 
next one, wrong, slows down a notch.

Try to develop the following habits:
In Morse Runner Hit enter to start sending the call before you type the last 
letter of the call.
In Rufz when speeds get high, let the whole call go by before you type it it.

Use these a few minutes each day and you will be amazed how much better you 
will be.
73,
Fred KE7X

For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com


From: Elecraft  on behalf of Dennis 

Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:54 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

This past weekend I experienced numerous ERR KEY messages. According to
the manual, this ERR code is returned when one "attempts to key the
transmitter or activate PTT during power on". When this would happen,
there was no power turn on, nor shorted keying lines- it was in
operation with N1MM+ in an SO2R mode.

What else would cause that error message?  If I tried to key the radio
before the PTT had been fully asserted, would I get that error?  I am
thinking that there is some connection between that error message and
some timing elements of the PTT/Keying process that I could correct.

I have another op that is getting this error in an unrelated setup. We
are both using the latest K3 firmware, 5.38.

Dennis W1UE

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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Dennis]

I do have an op that is having problems with this in conjunction with 
his Remote Rig setup, but that wasn't the case for me this past 
weekend.  No remote rig was involved this past weekend.


Dennis W1UE

On 3/28/2016 8:23 AM, Gerry Hull wrote:

Were you remote, Dennis?

I notice on the VY1AAA remote, if the sequencing is not right, I would 
get ERR_KEY on the rig as well.

It seemed to happen just as I was logging a QSO (no ESM, just VOX).

This was Windows 10 locally, with the RRC.  I wonder if this is the 
dreaded serial overlap issues that the N1MM and Microbit team has 
discovered (manifests itself by causing WinKey to stop sending after a 
few characters on CW.)   May be a completely different issue.


Gerry W1VE

Gerry Hull, W1VE   | Hancock, NH USA | +1-603-499-7373
AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM

 
 


On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Dennis > wrote:


This past weekend I experienced numerous ERR KEY messages.
According to the manual, this ERR code is returned when one
"attempts to key the transmitter or activate PTT during power on".
When this would happen, there was no power turn on, nor shorted
keying lines- it was in operation with N1MM+ in an SO2R mode.

What else would cause that error message?  If I tried to key the
radio before the PTT had been fully asserted, would I get that
error?  I am thinking that there is some connection between that
error message and some timing elements of the PTT/Keying process
that I could correct.

I have another op that is getting this error in an unrelated
setup. We are both using the latest K3 firmware, 5.38.

Dennis W1UE

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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Gerry Hull]

Were you remote, Dennis?

I notice on the VY1AAA remote, if the sequencing is not right, I would get
ERR_KEY on the rig as well.
It seemed to happen just as I was logging a QSO (no ESM, just VOX).

This was Windows 10 locally, with the RRC.  I wonder if this is the dreaded
serial overlap issues that the N1MM and Microbit team has discovered
(manifests itself by causing WinKey to stop sending after a few characters
on CW.)   May be a completely different issue.

Gerry W1VE

Gerry Hull, W1VE   | Hancock, NH USA | +1-603-499-7373
AKA: VE1RM | VY2CDX | VO1CDX | 6Y6C | 8P9RM
 

 

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Dennis  wrote:

> This past weekend I experienced numerous ERR KEY messages. According to
> the manual, this ERR code is returned when one "attempts to key the
> transmitter or activate PTT during power on". When this would happen, there
> was no power turn on, nor shorted keying lines- it was in operation with
> N1MM+ in an SO2R mode.
>
> What else would cause that error message?  If I tried to key the radio
> before the PTT had been fully asserted, would I get that error?  I am
> thinking that there is some connection between that error message and some
> timing elements of the PTT/Keying process that I could correct.
>
> I have another op that is getting this error in an unrelated setup. We are
> both using the latest K3 firmware, 5.38.
>
> Dennis W1UE
>
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Nr4c]

Unplug PTT, KEY, and PADDLES and check. You have what sounds like multiple PTT 
set up. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 5, 2016, at 9:11 AM, Peter Chamalian  wrote:
> 
> When using the K3 on SSB with a condenser mike I am occasionally getting an
> ERR KEY error and the vox does not trigger.  The manual talks about
> attempting to key the PTT but I do not use it on SSB.  The K3 is connected
> to a micro Keyer II and it does trigger PTT on CW.  I do not use any voice
> connection between the K3 and my computer or other equipment.
> 
> 
> 
> Nothing has changed with my station or setup in a long time and this is a
> new problem that has appeared in ARRL SSB.
> 
> 
> 
> Pete, W1RM
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Don Wilhelm]

Pete,

ERR KEY indicates that the K3 is detecting a key or paddle or PTT 
closure when it powers up.
If you have the PTT-KEY menu set to anything other than OFF-OFF, your 
computer may be causing that problem when it boots because the computer 
'exercises' the RS-232 signals at boot time.


To test whether it is a jack in the K3 or an external device that is 
causing the problem:

Remove all cables except power and a dummy load.
Then power cycle the K3 several times (enough to define your 
"occasionally").
If no problem found, connect your devices one at a time and repeat the 
power cycling until you discover which one is causing the problem.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/5/2016 9:11 AM, Peter Chamalian wrote:

When using the K3 on SSB with a condenser mike I am occasionally getting an
ERR KEY error and the vox does not trigger.  The manual talks about
attempting to key the PTT but I do not use it on SSB.  The K3 is connected
to a micro Keyer II and it does trigger PTT on CW.  I do not use any voice
connection between the K3 and my computer or other equipment.




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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

ERR KEY should only appear at turn on if one of the key lines is
closed.  The only other report of ERR KEY has been when certain
software combinations poll the K3 too rapidly during transmit and
overflows the processor buffer.

Are you using N1MM Logger+ *and* NaP3 with their default polling
settings at the same time?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/5/2016 9:11 AM, Peter Chamalian wrote:

When using the K3 on SSB with a condenser mike I am occasionally getting an
ERR KEY error and the vox does not trigger.  The manual talks about
attempting to key the PTT but I do not use it on SSB.  The K3 is connected
to a micro Keyer II and it does trigger PTT on CW.  I do not use any voice
connection between the K3 and my computer or other equipment.



Nothing has changed with my station or setup in a long time and this is a
new problem that has appeared in ARRL SSB.



Pete, W1RM



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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY with Bencher Paddle

[Don Wilhelm]

Larry,

Are you certain the plug is inserted all the way into the jack?

Do you have a stereo 1/4 inch phone plug that has nothing connected to 
it?  If not, can you borrow one?

Plug it into the jack and see if you still get the ERR KEY.
If not, the K3 is OK and the problem is with the paddles, the cable or 
the plug.


If you get ERR KEY with just the bare plug, contact support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/29/2016 2:01 PM, Larry Snyder wrote:

I bought a Bencher BY Series Iambic Paddles BY-1 and have it connected to
the Paddle connection on the back of the K3.

  


Both contacts are such that a piece of paper can go between the contacts on
post and the paddle

  


When I turn on the K3 I get ERR KEY

  



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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY with Bencher Paddle

[Nr4c]

Unplug the bencher, and restart the radio. Does the error go away?  If so, 
check setting and wiring for the bencher. If not, look into radio settings. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Feb 29, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Larry Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I bought a Bencher BY Series Iambic Paddles BY-1 and have it connected to
> the Paddle connection on the back of the K3.
> 
> 
> 
> Both contacts are such that a piece of paper can go between the contacts on
> post and the paddle
> 
> 
> 
> When I turn on the K3 I get ERR KEY
> 
> 
> 
> I have VOX enabled.
> 
> 
> 
> On the bottom of the paddle I have the white wire on the left (when looking
> down from the top) and the red on the right.
> 
> 
> 
> I check it with a meter and the paddle seems to be working fine.
> 
> 
> 
> Any ideas?  Do I need to change some of the settings in the radio?
> 
> 
> 
> Larry K9RRN HK2LS 
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY with WINKEYER

[Matt Zilmer]

Suggestion:  Get a shielded USB cable and/or use them throughout the
shack.  Chassis-ground your computer.  Use the ferrites too, but try
those suggestions first.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:44:29 -0700, you wrote:

>Every time I plus the USB cable in the back of my WINKEYER, I am getting an
>error message "ERR KEY". Also during contest when I am running my Amplifier,
>my WINKEY goes dead and out with Windows sound bang, like my USB has been
>unplug. Can I put some torriods to the USB cable? Any suggestions.
>73
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY / ERR PTT Reports

[Andy Faber]

Joe,
  Thanks for the info.  This is first thing that has ever gone wrong with my 
K3, including several trips to Aruba, so I'm kinda surprised to have it 
happen.
  73, andy, ae6y

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From: "Joe Planisky" 
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:36 PM
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Subject: [Elecraft] ERR KEY / ERR PTT Reports

> In the last 9 months or so, there have been a number of reports of
> issues involving the ERR KEY or ERR PTT message.  Some of them may
> have been due to mics picking up noise on power up, or computers
> holding an RS-232 keying line active on power up.
>
> However, since June 2009, there have been at least 5 separate reports
> on the reflector of the error appearing while the rig was operating
> (i.e. not at power up) or persisting with nothing but the power cord
> connected to the rig.  There have been another 3 reports where it
> wasn't quite clear if it happened while operating or with nothing
> connected.
>
> This happened to me and persisted until I took the rig apart to
> inspect the key, paddle, and PTT jacks.  I found nothing wrong, but
> when I reassembled the rig, the error was gone.  There have been at
> least 2 other reports of the error spontaneously disappearing. (In
> other cases, there was no follow up report, so I don't know what the
> outcome was.)
>
> Intermittent problems are hard to track down, but I hope Elecraft
> either has or will start investigating these reports to figure out why
> this error is being triggered when it apparently shouldn't be.
>
> 73
> --
> Joe KB8AP
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR KEY message

[Wayne Burdick]

ERR KEY means the radio is keyed by some method, by an external  
device. Unplug all keying-related devices until the message goes away  
(it takes a couple of seconds). You can then operate as usual.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Oct 23, 2009, at 8:48 PM, ke6t...@gmail.com wrote:

> My K3 was always on CW mode. And tonight I would like to try it on  
> WW SSB
> Contest. I tap the mode selector and an error message came up on the
> display " ERR KEY " and my K3 is lock on transmit. I can not get the  
> error
> message go out. Need your help.
> 73
> George KE6TE
> K3 - 2903
> KX1 - 01934
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